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* ArcFatigue: Andrew and Nick both often get plots where they seem to be hitting it off with a girl, only for their immaturity to ruin it. This is a major factor in why the characters have become so polarizing in later seasons, as they don't seem to return the lessons they learn from these experiences and it becomes more and more cringeworthy over time. Andrew in particular has had several seasons of self-proclaimed improvement, but seems to regress back to being gross withim episodes for the sake of CringeComedy.



* MexicansLoveSpeedyGonzales: Quite a few people on the autism spectrum love Caleb, who's considered to be one of the "better" stereotypes of a character with Asperger's (though by Season 3, his tics and disorders have become so bizarre and character-specific that one can hardly call them stereotypes).

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* MexicansLoveSpeedyGonzales: Quite a few people on the autism spectrum love Caleb, who's considered to be one of the "better" stereotypes of a an autistic character with Asperger's (though by Season 3, his tics and disorders have become so bizarre and character-specific that one can hardly call them stereotypes).



** The use of "Groove is in the Heart" as the soundtrack for Barbara's sad backstory. It might sound ridiculous, but Barbara's story is genuinely bitter and sweet that it manages to fit with the song and balance its sad moments, including her accidental pregnancy and abortion before meeting Martin. The rest of her story is sufficiently happy to justify the song.

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** The use of "Groove is in the Heart" as the soundtrack for Barbara's sad backstory. It might sound ridiculous, but Barbara's story is genuinely bitter and sweet that it manages to fit with the song and balance its sad moments, including her accidental pregnancy and abortion before meeting Martin. The rest of her story is sufficiently happy to justify the song.song, and the line "I couldn't ask for another" has heartwarming subtext when applied to her son.


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** Val and Leah's surprisingly healthy relationship indicated that Val could develop into a nicer person, possibly changing some dynamics in the Bilzerian family and developing Val distinctly from Kurt. However, the relationship appears to end offscreen and Val goes right back to his typical BigBrotherBully self by Season 7.
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** In Season 2, Jessi scoffed at the boys for being so obsessed with boobs. A few seasons later, she finds herself transfixed by Ali's boobs, and later becomes fixated on Caitlyn when she's breastfeeding, much to her embarrassment both times.
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** Matthew, before he became part of the main cast in the later seasons, was popular for his delightful bitchiness and being responsible for the sexuality aesop of "Am I Gay?".[[spoiler: He gets even '''more''' popular when he's given more depth into his character while serving as a possible LoveInterest to Jay. In "My Furry Valentine" his role is expanded and we see him interacting with Maurice, previously indicated (but not shown) to be his Hormone Monster, for the first time]].

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** Matthew, before he became part of the main cast in the later seasons, was popular for his delightful bitchiness and being responsible for the sexuality aesop Aesop of "Am I Gay?".Gay?". [[spoiler: He gets even '''more''' popular when he's given more depth into his character while serving as a possible LoveInterest to Jay. In "My Furry Valentine" his role is expanded expanded, and we see him interacting with Maurice, previously indicated (but not shown) to be his Hormone Monster, for the first time]].



** Caleb, in all his AmbiguousDisorder glory. He's more or less a background character, but he's so [[InnocentlyInsensitive innocently blunt]] and [[CaptainObvious obvious]] when he appears, that fans love him.

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** Caleb, in all his AmbiguousDisorder ambiguous disorder glory. He's more or less a background character, but he's so [[InnocentlyInsensitive innocently blunt]] and [[CaptainObvious obvious]] when he appears, that fans love him.
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misuse, needs adult comparison


* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: It's a brightly colored animated series starring [[TeensAreShort short teenagers]] who are struggling through middle school. Despite dealing with puberty, a phase that most from the ages of 10-15 are going through, it's very clearly intended for older teens and adults, and meant to take the adult demographic back to their middle school years. Not only does it deal with its subject matter in a non-educational and very tongue-in-cheek way, but also openly deals with substance abuse, AbusiveParents, affairs, and contains [[ClusterFBomb heavy strong language]] and cartoon nudity/visibility of sexual fluids.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: It's a brightly colored animated series starring [[TeensAreShort short teenagers]] teenagers who are struggling through middle school. Despite dealing with puberty, a phase that most from the ages of 10-15 are going through, it's very clearly intended for older teens and adults, and meant to take the adult demographic back to their middle school years. Not only does it deal with its subject matter in a non-educational and very tongue-in-cheek way, but also openly deals with substance abuse, AbusiveParents, affairs, and contains [[ClusterFBomb heavy strong language]] and cartoon nudity/visibility of sexual fluids.
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* OpinionMyopia: Within the online cartoon community, ''Big Mouth'' is treated as shorthand for a terrible adult cartoon that nobody actually likes. However, it has very good critical and audience scores and is frequently trending on Netflix.
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The show reconciled this later by introducing more distinct monsters and also it reads as "here's my idea" misuse


** Having just three hormone monsters and some inconsistency regarding who can and cannot see them, instead of giving each character their own, unique hormone monster matched to their personality and deciding if ''only'' that character can see them or if every character going through puberty can see them or if everyone can see them. Later seasons try to fix this by introducing more hormone monsters like Mona and Tyler.

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** Shannon started off as an EnsembleDarkHorse with many finding her attempts to comfort Jessi about her first period to be sweet but after Season 3, she's become very divisive. Depending on who you ask, either she's a [[GoodParents loving and devoted mother to Jessi]] who has every right to divorce a man like Greg or an awful mother whose selfishness, lack of communication and [[NeverMyFault not taking any responsibility for her relationship with Dina]] is the reason why Jessi went bad in the first place.



* FanficFuel: What were the adults puberties like before the kids? Did they have Hormone Monsters too? If they did, did they have the same ones? Or were theirs different from the ones the kids have?



* MemeticMutation:
** "Are you the puberty fairy?"[[labelnote:Explanation]]A question Nick asks after Maury enters his room in "Ejaculation". Frequently quoted on sites like ''Website/{{Reddit}}'' and almost always posted on sites like ''Website/{{Youtube}}''.[[/labelnote]]
** This quote from Maury:
--->'''Maury''': Sleep in it, pig! (blows a kiss)
** This quote from Connie:
--->'''Connie''': I don't use deodorant and I only take bubble baths!
** Way too many of Maury's quote to count. Pretty much ''everything'' he's said or done has become a meme at some point.
** The OverlyLongGag of Matthew saying "Byyyyyye!" due to just how [[LargeHam hammy]] it sounds.



** In "No Nut November", Andrew tries to keep himself from masturbating by thinking unsexy thoughts. What does he think about? His father blow-drying his huge, hairy balls. [[BrainBleach Yeah...]]
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** "Are you the puberty fairy?"[[labelnote:Explanation]]A question Nick asks after Maury enters his room in "Ejaculation". Frequently quoted on sites like ''Website/{{Reddit}}'' and almost always posted on sites like ''Website/{{Youtube}}''.[[/labelnote]]]

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** "Are you the puberty fairy?"[[labelnote:Explanation]]A question Nick asks after Maury enters his room in "Ejaculation". Frequently quoted on sites like ''Website/{{Reddit}}'' and almost always posted on sites like ''Website/{{Youtube}}''.[[/labelnote]]][[/labelnote]]

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** "Are you the puberty fairy?"[[labelnote:Explanation]]A question Nick asks after Maury enters his room in "Ejaculation". Frequently quoted on sites like ''Website/{{Reddit}}'' and almost always posted on sites like ''Website/{{Youtube}}''.[[/labelnote]]

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** "Are you the puberty fairy?"[[labelnote:Explanation]]A question Nick asks after Maury enters his room in "Ejaculation". Frequently quoted on sites like ''Website/{{Reddit}}'' and almost always posted on sites like ''Website/{{Youtube}}''.[[/labelnote]][[/labelnote]]]
** This quote from Maury:
--->'''Maury''': Sleep in it, pig! (blows a kiss)
** This quote from Connie:
--->'''Connie''': I don't use deodorant and I only take bubble baths!
** Way too many of Maury's quote to count. Pretty much ''everything'' he's said or done has become a meme at some point.
** The OverlyLongGag of Matthew saying "Byyyyyye!" due to just how [[LargeHam hammy]] it sounds.
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* MemeticMutation:
** "Are you the puberty fairy?"[[labelnote:Explanation]]A question Nick asks after Maury enters his room in "Ejaculation". Frequently quoted on sites like ''Website/{{Reddit}}'' and almost always posted on sites like ''Website/{{Youtube}}''.[[/labelnote]]
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** Shannon started off as an EnsembleDarkHorse with many finding her attempts to comfort Jessi about her first period to be sweet but after Season 3, she's become very divisive. Depending on who you ask, either she's a [[GoodParents loving and devoted mother to Jessi]] who has every right to divorce a man like Greg is an awful mother whose selfishness, lack of communication and [[NeverMyFault not taking any responsibility for her relationship with Dina]] is the reason why Jessi went bad in the first place.

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** Shannon started off as an EnsembleDarkHorse with many finding her attempts to comfort Jessi about her first period to be sweet but after Season 3, she's become very divisive. Depending on who you ask, either she's a [[GoodParents loving and devoted mother to Jessi]] who has every right to divorce a man like Greg is or an awful mother whose selfishness, lack of communication and [[NeverMyFault not taking any responsibility for her relationship with Dina]] is the reason why Jessi went bad in the first place.
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* Shannon started off as an EnsembleDarkHorse with many finding her attempts to comfort Jessi about her first period to be sweet but after Season 3, she's become very divisive. Depending on who you ask, either she's a [[GoodParents loving and devoted mother to Jessi]] who has every right to divorce a man like Greg is an awful mother whose selfishness, lack of communication and [[NeverMyFault not taking any responsibility for her relationship with Dina]] is the reason why Jessi went bad in the first place.

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* ** Shannon started off as an EnsembleDarkHorse with many finding her attempts to comfort Jessi about her first period to be sweet but after Season 3, she's become very divisive. Depending on who you ask, either she's a [[GoodParents loving and devoted mother to Jessi]] who has every right to divorce a man like Greg is an awful mother whose selfishness, lack of communication and [[NeverMyFault not taking any responsibility for her relationship with Dina]] is the reason why Jessi went bad in the first place.
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* Shannon started off as an EnsembleDarkHorse with many finding her attempts to comfort Jessi about her first period to be sweet but after Season 3, she's become very divisive. Depending on who you ask, either she's a [[GoodParents loving and devoted mother to Jessi]] who has every right to divorce a man like Greg is an awful mother whose selfishness, lack of communication and [[NeverMyFault not taking any responsibility for her relationship with Dina]] is the reason why Jessi went bad in the first place.
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* FanficFuel: What were the adults puberties like before the kids? Did they have Hormone Monsters too? If they did, did they have the same ones? Or were theirs different from the ones the kids have?
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** In "No Nut November", Andrew tries to keep himself from masturbating by thinking unsexy thoughts. What does he think about? His father blow-drying his huge, hairy balls. [[BrainBleach Yeah...]]
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Given this happens in literally the most recent episode, it's too early to tell if this plot point is wasted. Given how reluctant Matt was to dump Jay, it's safe to say this will come back. Plus they had a whole arc in season 6 exploring these differences so it wasn't a wasted plot.


** Despite Jay/Matthew being one of the most fan-preferred couples, [[spoiler:Matthew dumps Jay at the end of Season 6 due to Matthew feeling that Jay has changed too much to be more like Matthew and that the two of them are too different to work as a couple, instead of having the pair work through their differences and having Matthew learning to appreciate Jay's idiosyncrasies like he did the previous season.]]

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These morals aren't explicitly spelled out but they're still clearly there and intended imo.


** [[HobbesWasRight The responsibility parents have for helping their children through problems]]. When left to their own devices (or the care of the hormone monsters), the kids gravitate towards irrational, sometimes cruel behavior. However, their parents don't always have the best answers and following their advice sometimes makes their problems worse. So the moral? "Being an actual {{good parent|s}} is a lot of hard work, but it's really important" Or, [[HardTruthAesop more cynically]], "Even if you try as hard as possible to be the best parent you can be for your child, you're going to make mistakes that will effect them simply because HumansAreFlawed."
** The plot of "The [=ASSes=]" is kicked off by Jay selling his prescription meds to other students, which affects them all negatively. While the intended morals are that DrugsAreBad and it's wrong to cheat, the bigger takeaway is that you shouldn't take drugs that aren't meant for you and ''only'' use prescription drugs as directed.



** Anyone and everyone is capable of horrible behavior, and sometimes it’s hard to forgive them. If you can’t, then it's OK, but you have to cut them out of your life. If you don’t, you run the risk of becoming just as bad as them (albeit in a different way).
** Middle school is rough on everyone, and (almost) everyone changes and eventually evolves into a much better person by freshman year of high school.


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** Marty Glouberman is seen as either audaciously hilarious for his harsh attitude, or he crosses the line into abusive in an unfunny way. Season 6 playing the Glouberman family more seriously made this divide stronger, as some appreciated the authentic look at toxic family relationships while others thought he crossed a line by emotionally abusing Barbara.


** Activists make terrible boyfriends (see AcceptableTargets above).

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** Activists make terrible boyfriends (see AcceptableTargets above).boyfriends.
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* AcceptableTargets: Pretty much the entire male gender, though women and girls do get judged on a case-by-case basis.
** Adult male bachelors and divorcees are usually depicted as slovenly losers in contrast to happily married men.
** Jay's homophobic brothers are depicted as unambiguously cruel. Their dad is also shown to be a sexist miser who alternates between neglecting Jay and being a bad influence, to the point where Jay gives Coach Steve his blessing to sleep with his mother.
** Understandably, people who don't take no for an answer when it comes to sex or sexual favors. Daniel is an amoral asshole and is treated with disgust in and out of the narrative for repeatedly trying and failing to force women to give him felatio, as well as dodging any and all responsibility when he's confronted about it.
** The population of Florida are subjected to every stereotype imaginable, from KissingCousins to cantankerous old people and an entire family being members of the Klan. Nick even notes how it's a bit snobbish to judge an entire region.
** Men who claim to be feminists are usually depicted as well-meaning idiots or having malevolent ulterior motives. Even before he crosses the MoralEventHorizon (see below), Mr. Lizer uses his hard leftist ideals less to enrich the children's education and more to talk down to Coach Steve. He's later shown to be [[{{Hypocrite}} just as closed-minded than the toxic men he claims to be against]], telling all the female students that ''he'' knows what's best for them and talking over or interrupting them whenever they try to challenge him, then enforcing a dress code to "protect" them from boys trying to sexually harass them. Andrew, meanwhile, tries to be an ally to abstain himself from the guilt of his past mistakes and all of it comes across as CondescendingCompassion.
** The members of the MGTOW movement are shown as obnoxious and {{wangst}}y jerks who will blame literally anyone and anything else (''especially'' women) for everything that goes wrong with their own lives. In the space of a minute, a MGTOW meeting immediately escalates from misogyny to racism and anti-Semitism with very little prompting.

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* TheScrappy: Even in his few appearances before he became an outright villain, Mr. Lizer was easily the least popular character in the show, as he seemed to only exist to pick on Coach Steve by bragging about how much better-educated he was. The creators seemed to notice this, leaving him [[DemotedToExtra out of most of season 2]] [[HateSink and making him an antagonist in season 3]].

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Even in his few appearances before he became an outright villain, Mr. Lizer was easily the least popular character in the show, as he seemed to only exist to pick on Coach Steve by bragging about how much better-educated he was. The creators seemed to notice this, leaving him [[DemotedToExtra out of most of season 2]] [[HateSink and making him an antagonist in season 3]].



* SeasonalRot: A lot of fans don't really like Season 5 since most of the characters were {{flanderized}} and hold the JerkassBall. Season 4 marked the point where the show seemed to try ''way'' too hard to shock people.

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* SeasonalRot: A lot of fans don't really like Season 5 since Tends to be a tie between Seasons 4 and 5; the former was criticized for a perceived overreliance on shock value while the latter featured most of the characters were being {{flanderized}} and hold holding the JerkassBall. Season 4 marked the point where the show seemed to try ''way'' too hard to shock people.JerkassBall.
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** In general, ''Big Mouth'' tends to earn this with any Netflix show that gets cancelled prematurely, due to its perceived AdoredByTheNetwork status and AudienceAlienatingPremise. Fans of ''Series/TheDarkCrystalAgeOfResistance'' tend to be particularly acidic.

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** In general, ''Big Mouth'' tends to earn this with any Netflix show that gets cancelled prematurely, due to its perceived AdoredByTheNetwork status and AudienceAlienatingPremise. Fans of ''Series/TheDarkCrystalAgeOfResistance'' ''Series/TheDarkCrystalAgeOfResistance'', and more recently, ''WesternAnimation/{{Inside Job|2021}}'', tend to be particularly acidic.
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** Creator/SylvesterStallone did star in a softcore porno called ''The Italian Stallion,'' but its original title was ''The Party at Kitty and Stud's''. It was also years before Stallone's breakthrough with ''Rocky'', so he neither had his iconic HeroicBuild yet, nor did he use quotes from ''Rocky''.
** "Men Going Their Own Way" sounds like some generic fake name the writers tossed up for the sake of a toxic masculinity joke, doesn't it? Nope, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Going_Their_Own_Way it's real]]. The Southern Poverty Law Center even classifies it as a hate group.
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** Similarly there's the purposefully exaggerated art style. For some it does work in its own way, much like the writing, and has its appeal. For others it's just ugly regardless of IntendedAudienceReaction.

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** Similarly Similarly, there's the purposefully exaggerated art style. For some some, it does work in its own way, much like the writing, and has its appeal. For others others, it's just ugly regardless of IntendedAudienceReaction.
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Neither objective nor subjective enough


* SoOkayItsAverage: [[CriticalDissonance Despite receiving critical acclaim]], the ''closest'' we've got to a response from the audience is that while there are a few funny moments here and there, due to it's [[{{Squick}}]]y humor and premise, it's Netflix's weakest show. Nonetheless, it's still considered Creator/NickKroll and Andrew Goldberg's best work.
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* SoOkayItsAverage: [[CriticalDissonance Despite receiving critical acclaim]], the ''closest'' we've got to a response from the audience is that while there are a few funny moments here and there, due to it's [[{{Squick}}]]y humor and premise, it's Netflix's weakest show. Nonetheless, it's still considered Creator/NickKroll and AndrewGoldberg's best work.

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* SoOkayItsAverage: [[CriticalDissonance Despite receiving critical acclaim]], the ''closest'' we've got to a response from the audience is that while there are a few funny moments here and there, due to it's [[{{Squick}}]]y humor and premise, it's Netflix's weakest show. Nonetheless, it's still considered Creator/NickKroll and AndrewGoldberg's Andrew Goldberg's best work.
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* SoOkayItsAverage: [[CriticalDissonance Despite receiving critical acclaim]], the ''closest'' we've got to a response from the audience is that while there are a few funny moments here and there, due to it's [[Squick]]y humor and premise, it's Netflix's weakest show. Nonetheless, it's still considered Creator/NickKroll and Creator/AndrewGoldberg's best work.

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* SoOkayItsAverage: [[CriticalDissonance Despite receiving critical acclaim]], the ''closest'' we've got to a response from the audience is that while there are a few funny moments here and there, due to it's [[Squick]]y [[{{Squick}}]]y humor and premise, it's Netflix's weakest show. Nonetheless, it's still considered Creator/NickKroll and Creator/AndrewGoldberg's AndrewGoldberg's best work.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: The series is about a group of teens going thorough puberty and first exploring their sexuality, portraying the issue with such extreme, in-your-face frankness, many people claimed it was bordering child pornography. The creators were aware of it, as the art style used is deliberately ugly, probably chosen to dissuade ephebophiles. Critics who saw it actually liked it, but other people may be appalled by either the subject or the art style, and it's not very likely that the show gets watched by actual teens going through puberty since they would feel the series is too close to home.
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** [[Spoiler:In Human Resources Maury and Connie break up when it becomes clear that Connie isn't interested in having children while Maury wants to start a family. This is handwaved less than halfway into Season 6 by Connie deciding that she previously wasn't mature enough to have a child but is suddenly ready to become a mother. The writers missed a huge opportunity to showcase valid arguments for living childfree and to explore further the reasons why Connie and Maury couldn't work as a couple due to wanting different things in life.]]
** Despite Jay/Matthew being one of the most fan preferred couples [[spoiler:Matthew dumps Jay at the end of Season 6 due to Matthew feeling that Jay has changed too much to be more like Matthew and that the two of them are too different to work as a couple, instead of having the pair work through their differences and having Matthew learning to appreciate Jay's idiosyncrasies like he did the previous season.]]

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** [[Spoiler:In [[spoiler:In Human Resources Resources, Maury and Connie break up when it becomes clear that Connie isn't interested in having children while Maury wants to start a family. This is handwaved {{handwave}}d less than halfway into Season 6 by Connie deciding that she previously wasn't mature enough to have a child but is suddenly ready to become a mother. The writers missed a huge opportunity to showcase valid arguments for living childfree child-free and to explore further the reasons why Connie and Maury couldn't work as a couple due to wanting different things in life.]]
** Despite Jay/Matthew being one of the most fan preferred couples fan-preferred couples, [[spoiler:Matthew dumps Jay at the end of Season 6 due to Matthew feeling that Jay has changed too much to be more like Matthew and that the two of them are too different to work as a couple, instead of having the pair work through their differences and having Matthew learning to appreciate Jay's idiosyncrasies like he did the previous season.]]
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* AuthorsSavingThrow:
** Among the many other criticisms that the early promotional material for the show faced was that a show about teenagers going through puberty and all that that entailed (masturbation, making out, etc.) had pedophilic vibes. The last joke of the last episode of season 1 has Maurice freaking out that "a show about a bunch of kids masturbating" might come off as child pornography, then reassuring himself that it's not as bad if it's done as an animated cartoon. Later episodes also make it very obvious that pedophilia is heinous by depicting pedophiles as {{Hate Sink}}s who suffer graphic karma for their actions.
** The show's mostly-female writing staff eased some early concerns that the concept was just an excuse for juvenile older men to make sexist machismo jokes and would fairly depict female puberty as well as male puberty (though there are [[BrokenBase some complaints]] that there are actually ''more'' uninformed depictions of male puberty than female puberty, as a result).
** Season 1 had the [[ArtisticLicenseHistory common misconception that Freddie Mercury was gay, instead of bisexual]]. In season 2, [[spoiler:Jay]] becomes canonically bisexual, and the ghost of Mercury even pops up to tell [[spoiler:Jay]] that despite the common misconception, he too was bi.
** After being criticized for their poorly-researched and unintentionally transphobic definitions of bisexuality and pansexuality in "Rankings," the next season introduced a transgender character, Natalie, who had a transgender writer on staff (Patti Harrison) to ensure she wouldn't be written offensively. She's also [[QueerCharacterQueerActor played by a transgender actress]] (Josie Totah).
** Some fans have made some complaints of the Shame Wizard being DemotedToExtra in the 3rd and 4th seasons. Him making constant appearances in the 5th season, even having an episode where he takes center stage, was mostly likely because of this.

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