History YMMV / BatmanTheTelltaleSeries

** Harvey crossed it in episode 4 when [[spoiler: he blew up the Children of Arkham's weapon hideout, killing several cops and innocent civilians]]. Yes he did destroy the drugs and some good did come out of it and yes he admit their deaths were unfournate but still dude.

** The fact that [[spoiler:the Joker of all people can molded into a hero that saves the Gotham bridge]] is pretty amazing given the [[spoiler:dozens of times we've seen the Joker]] go insane and kill people. The fact that you made that happen is pretty satisfying.

* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Roland "Blockbuster" Desmond is a seven-foot tall, blue skinned, bald, shirtless thug who's seen working with Penguin. Nobody comments on his unusual appearance and his presence is not explained. A case of AdapationInducedPlotHole that might confuse those who aren't familiar enough with the universe of ''Batman''.

* BigLippedAlligatorMoment:
** When he's searching Falcone's club and [[spoiler: holding the Hill/Dent debate audience hostage]] Penguin is aided by Blockbuster, a seven-foot tall, blue skinned, bald, shirtless thug. [[WeirdnessCensor No commentary is offered by anyone who sees him.]]
** Continues this while in Arkham, where in Episode 4 [[spoiler:he just stares off into space]] and in Episode 5 [[spoiler:he spends the entire riot playing with a ''door.'']]
* CaptainObviousReveal: Downplayed: at the very end of ''The Enemy Within'' episode one, it is shown [[spoiler:that Amanda Waller knows Batman is Bruce Wayne.]] This is treated as the shocking cliffhanger moment, except it is already the case in most comic and adaptation continuities, such as [[spoiler:''Film/SuicideSquad2016'' and the ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' cartoon series]], so it's only a shocking reveal if the player isn't aware of those other continuities.

** Fans are divided on [[spoiler: Alfred's]] actions and arguments following the Season 2 finale. [[spoiler: He claims that Batman is doing more harm than good, that he’s creating his own villains, that the mission is too stressful to continue, and that Bruce could better serve Gotham using his other resources. Many think Alfred is being [[{{Wangst}} whiny]] and selfish (it's made clear that his guilt over enabling Thomas Wayne plays a large part in his decision to leave) and emotionally abusive for abandoning his foster son. Others believe Alfred has a right to leave as he is an old man and the stress of working as Bruce's support and having been kidnapped have taken their toll. Furthermore, Alfred's points -- that Bruce will end up dead like his father and that Batman just makes things worse -- do have arguable merit: Bruce comes seriously close to dying in both the Vigilante and Villain routes, and Two-Face, Joker, Penguin, and Lady Arkham were either created or inspired by Batman (especially Joker) and Bruce's crusade being directly or indirectly responsible for Lucius Fox’s death and Tiffany's subsequent murder of Riddler, Alfred accumulating trauma, and Bruce nearly dying several times. Other fans point out, however that Penguin and Lady Arkham were evil long before Batman came into play and that Harvey already had deep seated mental problems that would have come to the surface whether or not Batman was there (after all being Mayor is a stressful job). What’s more, Batman has already demonstrated that he has been doing good as Bruce Wayne like funding the rebuilding of Arkham Asylum and funding his honest DA friend's political campaign. Player choice blurs the line further, with Alfred's points becoming stronger or weaker depending on the consequences of their decisions, and their responses to his assertions. In fact Website/{{YouTube}}r [=IBeerlezy=] points out that Lady Arkhan would have still captured Alfred in season one, anyways. It was only because Bruce was Batman that Alfred was rescued as if he'd merely been Bruce, Alfred would have died for sure.]]

** The [[KickTheSonOfABitch boss fight against]] [[spoiler: [[SmugSnake Penguin]] or [[KnightTemplar Harvey Dent]]]] at the end of Chapter 4 is nothing short but satisfying on either choice.

* GuideDangIt: Succeeding in actually getting a RelationshipUpgrade with Selina in the Vigilante ending of Season 2 can be a real pain. The steps involved include picking the dialogue option for Waller to release Selina in exchange for your help, telling Selina you love her when she saves you from the rubble, then finally reminding Waller she owes you after you rescue her from Joker. It's such a hard-to-complete path that the end-of-episode statistics state that only three percent of players have managed it.

* GuideDangIt: Succeeding in actually getting a RelationshipUpgrade with Selina in the Vigilante ending of Season 2 can be a real pain. The steps involved include picking the dialogue option for her to release Selina in exchange for your help, telling Selina you love her when she saves you from the rubble, then finally reminding Waller she owes you after you rescue her from Joker. It's such a hard-to-complete path that the end-of-episode statistics state that only three percent of players have managed it.

** Depending on how you treated Harvey, the reasons behind his FaceHeelTurn can come off as very silly. Support him at every point and he'll only FaceHeelTurn because Bruce possibly slept with Selena, ''who Harvey wasn't even dating''. Essentially, Harvey becomes Two-Face just [[DisproportionateRetribution because Bruce (maybe) broke the "bro code"]].

** Penguin/Oswald Cobblepot's and to a much lesser extent [[spoiler:Vicki Vale's]] unyielding hatred of Bruce can be incredibly unreasonable depending on your choices. Both show up in the first episode as friends to Bruce at first, and yet, even if your polite, kind, and morally strait in all your interactions, they will become absolutely convinced that Bruce is no different from his father no matter what you do or say. This sort of makes sense for the latter as [[spoiler:she has clearly been driven insane by her trauma]]. Oswald on the other hand seems to be perfectly sane and becomes convinced Bruce is the real monster ''before'' he even does anything wrong, coming off as a petty GreenEyedMonster who envies Bruce’s fortune that came at his family’s expense.

** Penguin/Oswald Cobblepot's and to a much lesser extent [[spoiler:Vicki Vale's]] unyielding hatred of Bruce can be incredibly unreasonable depending on your choices. Both show up in the first episode as friends to Bruce at first, and yet, even if your polite, kind, and morally strait in all your interactions, they will become absolutely convinced that Bruce is no different from his father no matter what you do or say. This sort of makes sense for the latter as [[spoiler:she has clearly been driven insane by her trama]]. Oswald on the other hand seems to be perfectly sane and becomes convinced Bruce is the real monster ''before'' he even does anything wrong.

* InformedWrongness: Bruce's option of wanting to turn John in is treated as him not trusting the latter's claims of killing Waller's agents in self-defense and the catalyst for him becoming Joker despite it being a completely reasonable response because regardless of whether it was self-defense or not, it's ridiculous John would think he wouldn't be arrested and go to trial for gunning down three people.

* InformedWrongness: Bruce's option of wanting to turn John is treated as him not trusting his claims of killing Waller's agents in self-defense and the catalyst for him becoming Joker despite it being a completely reasonable response because regardless of whether it was self-defense or not, it's ridiculous John would think he wouldn't be arrested and go to trial for gunning down three people.

* InformedWrongness: Bruce's option of wanting to turn John is treated as him not trusting his claims of killing Waller's agents in self-defense and the catalyst for him becoming Joker despite it being a completely reasonable response because regardless of whether it was self-defense or not, it's ridiculous John would think he wouldn't be arrested and go trial for gunning down three people.

* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Anthony Ingruber was finally able to show off his true acting skills as John Doe in Season 2 once his character gained main focus in the plot. His performance [[spoiler: as the Joker]] was also able to earn him some fan appreciation in the finale, where he gets some of the creepiest and most emotional moments with Bruce as well, giving his role some well-deserved justice. Most notably, while [[spoiler:John's laugh feels more stilted than anything at first, once he finally becomes the Joker, Vigilante or Villain, his take on the iconic laughter is downright terrifying]].
* HilariousInHindsight: Isn't the last time Batman fights a mysterious figure who turns out to be [[spoiler: a daughter of the Arkham family]] with the comics Arkhan Knight having some similarities.

* InformedWrongness: Bruce's option of wanting to turn John is treated as him not trusting his claims of killing Waller's agents in self-defense and the catalyst for him becoming Joker despite it being a completely reasonable response because regardless of whether it was self-defense or not, it's ridiculous John would expect not to be arrested and go on trial for gunning down three people.

* InformedWrongness: Bruce's option of wanting to turn John is treated as him not trusting John's claims of killing Waller's agents in self-defense and the catalyst for him becoming Joker despite it being a completely reasonable response because regardless of whether it was self-defense or not, it's ridiculous John would expect not to be arrested and go on trial for gunning down three people.

* InformedWrongness: Bruce's option of wanting to turn John is treated as him not trusting John's claims of killing Waller's agents in self-defense and the catalyst for him becoming Joker despite it being a completely reasonable response because regardless of whether it was self-defense or not, it's ridiculous John would expect not to be arrested and go on trial for a triple homicide.

* ItsEasySoItSucks: As usual with most Telltale Games, the most complaints are the lack of challenge in the gameplay. However, some gamers go as far as to say that Batman is practically an InvincibleHero who goes down less easily than most Telltale protagonists. Admittedly this is nothing new to the Batman franchise, even comicbook fans tend to refer to him as Bat God because of how unstoppable he is.

** Who's the leader of the Children of Arkham? Hugo Strange? Scarecrow? Joker [[HijackedByGanon (again)?]] Some other well-known Batman villain that's fond of mindgames? Nope, it's actually [[spoiler: Vicki Vale]] of all people.

* SoOkayItsAverage: The series recieved fairly mixed reviews from critics for its distinct lack of actual gameplay for most of the game. This could be seen as Telltale cutting corners so that they can release more episodes in a fraction of the time it used to take them. The graphical upgrade on consoles also came at the cost of the game going back and forth between 30 and 60 frames per second, whereas all the other games released up until that point had been 60 frames per second on [=PS4=] and Xbox One.

* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: When he's searching Falcone's club and [[spoiler: holding the Hill/Dent debate audience hostage]] Penguin is aided by Blockbuster, a seven-foot tall, blue skinned, bald, shirtless thug. [[WeirdnessCensor No commentary is offered by anyone who sees him.]]

* EpilepticTrees: One of the biggest theories surrounding the game [[spoiler: before Episode 5]] was that ComicBook/TheJoker would somehow be revealed as the real villain. [[spoiler: It turns out, however, that Vicki Vale was the true BigBad after all. The Joker does appear in Episodes 4 and 5 but [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamSeries for once]] doesn't [[HijackedByGanon take over as]] BigBad. That was saved for Season 2.]].

* HarsherInHindsight: Tiffany's guilt over suggesting a gun to Batman takes a darker meaning when it's revealed in Episode 5 that [[spoiler: she's the Riddler's killer.]]

* IdiotBall: Amanda Waller grabs this and scores a touchdown with it in Season 2, Episode 4. [[spoiler: On the Vigilante!Joker path, John had ''just'' disarmed Harley and retrieved both the DeadMansSwitch and the virus. His only compunction against handing it over to Waller is his belief that it's too dangerous for ''[[NoManShouldHaveThisPower anyone]]'' to have.]]
** '''You'd Expect''': That, with the situation largely defused, that Waller would calmly negotiate for the return of the virus, possibly while having snipers move into position as a means of hedging her bets.
** '''What Happens''': [[spoiler: She pulls a gun on the guy that had ''just'' saved everyone's asses and threatens to kill him unless he hands the virus over now - [[DidNotThinkThisThrough while he's still holding both the virus and the detonator]]. This prompts him to detonate the bridge, potentially stab her, and declare that he and Batman will upend the Agency ''for justice'']].
* IronWoobie: Bruce Wayne as always. The entire town hates him as both a person and as Batman, the entire game is devoted to breaking his spirit, he learns that [[spoiler: his parents were really mob bosses who got rich from the suffering of others]], Alfred is his only ParentalSubstitute but has been withholding information even from him, his best friend Harvey slowly turns against until he becomes the villainous Two-Face, his old best friend hates him, [[spoiler: his company gets taken away from him and given to the Penguin]], and a terrorist group is out to ruin his good name, nearly succeeding, and destroying the city he loves. Nevertheless, he selflessly carries on his duties as Batman so the innocent won't have to suffer anymore.

* TheScrappy: Amanda Waller quickly became this for fans in the vigilante finale of Season 2, where she not only turns on Batman and makes him public enemy number one despite all the good he's done, but she also [[KarmaHoudini gets away completely scott-free]] with causing a large portion of the problems in the story arc since she gives a vague apology and the game may give the impression that she's a WellIntentionedExtremist who only wanted to bring justice like the dark knight. To make it worse, she can keep all of Batman's defeated rogues to use for her Suicide Squad and there's no word on whether or not she'll send them back to prison or keep them as her gambling chips. Nevertheless, the game looks like it wants us to sympathize with her as a foil to Batman.

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Arnold Wesker aka the Ventriloquist, a complex villain from Batman's rogues gallery whose been underused for a long time in DC media, ends up only having a single cameo in the game and no major part in taking on the Dark Knight. Heck, even Scarface was AdaptedOut (although since Wesker is seen with a sock puppet, it's possible this takes place ''before'' he created the Scarface dummy, or the dummy could have been removed from him by the hospital (as has happened before)).

* WTHCostumingDepartment: Who thought it would be a good idea for Catwoman, a professional thief, to have fingerless gloves? Telltale got the message, as her appearance in episode 2 and beyond has her wearing full gloves.

* MagnificentBastard: [[ProfessionalKiller Floyd Lawton]], aka Deadshot, is a wealthy military contractor seeking vengeance against the Wayne name for his horrific childhood. [[DarkAndTroubledPast Scarred by a past of tragedy]], Lawton witnessed his cherished older brother's murder at the hands of their {{abusive parents}}, going on to avenge his sibling by coldly murdering his parents and getting away with it at the age of fourteen. In adulthood, Lawton learns that his parents were enabled and kept out of law enforcement's eyes by Thomas Wayne, and, blaming the long-dead man and his living associates for his brother's death, Lawton becomes the assassin "Deadshot." Beginning to track down and systematically murder all of Wayne's former compatriots, Deadshot confronts and outwits [[Characters/BatmanTheCharacter Batman]] himself with several traps and decoys, and even kidnaps the man's butler, Alfred Pennyworth, to use as a hostage. Planning to force Batman to either kill him or let the hostage associates of Thomas Wayne die, Deadshot can only express respect and acceptance for Batman when beaten, simply moving on to join a [[ComicBook/SuicideSquad government task force]] for an early release from prison with a smile.

* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Amanda Waller in the finale attempts to justify all her immoral actions by arguing how she wanted to bring good for others in the end, but it may fall flat since her immoral actions can be seen as outweighing her noble intentions. Such as trying to shoot John right after he disarmed his crush and prevented a bridge from being blown up just because he wouldn't hand over the virus causing him to become a violent psychopathic vigilante in response. It's not present in the Villain route where she praises Bruce for saving the day, even pulls in multiple favors for him as thanks and promises to keep his identity a secret in a genuine tone. In the Vigilante route however, Batman obtains files that expose her dirty dealings such as having witnesses killed and keeping Sanctus equipment and keeps the pact under her thumb using shock collars which is highly illegal and can potentially get people killed which severely undermines her arguments.

* BrokenBase: Whether or not the Joker should be in the game. Some think the character is too integral to the franchise to be excluded and want to see Telltale's interpretation of the Clown Prince of Crime, and some feel that he's overexposed between the heavy focus on him in the Arkham series and the game being released concurrently with his appearance in ''Film/SuicideSquad2016''. These fans would also prefer to see some of Bruce's other villains emphasized after ''Arkham Origins'' teased a story about Batman fighting the mob in his early days, only for the story to be [[HijackedByGanon hijacked by Joker]].

** Depending on how you treated Harvey, the reasons behind his FaceHeelTurn can come of as very silly. Support him at every point and he'll only FaceHeelTurn because Bruce possibly slept with Selena, ''who Harvey wasn't even dating''.Selena. Essentially, Harvey becomes Two-Face just [[DisproportionateRetribution because Bruce (maybe) broke the "bro code"]].

** Depending on how you treated Harvey, the reasons behind his FaceHeelTurn can come of as very silly. Support him at every point and he'll only FaceHeelTurn because Bruce possibly slept with Selena. Essentially, Harvey becomes Two-Face just [[DisproportionateRetribution because Bruce (maybe) broke the "bro code"]].

** Penguin crosses it when [[spoiler:shooting the innocent debate moderator]]. Even Bruce admits this event cemented that [[ThatManIsDead his best friend is gone]]. If that wasn't enough he tries to kill Harvey by smashing his face with a stagelgiht as opposed to the quick death he gave Mayor Hill who actually deserved it.

* MagnificentBastard: [[ProfessionalKiller Floyd Lawton]], aka ComicBook/{{Deadshot}}, is a wealthy military contractor seeking vengeance against the Wayne name for his horrific childhood. [[DarkAndTroubledPast Scarred by a past of tragedy]], Lawton witnessed his cherished older brother's murder at the hands of their abusive parents, going on to avenge his sibling by coldly murdering his parents and getting away with it at the age of fourteen. In adulthood, Lawton learns that his parents were enabled and kept out of law enforcement's eyes by Thomas Wayne, and, blaming the long-dead man and his living associates for his brother's death, Lawton becomes the assassin "Deadshot." Beginning to track down and systematically murder all of Wayne's former compatriots, Deadshot confronts and outwits ComicBook/{{Batman}} himself with several traps and decoys, and even kidnaps the man's butler, Alfred Pennyworth, to use as a hostage. Planning to force Batman to either kill him or let the hostage associates of Thomas Wayne die, Deadshot can only express respect and acceptance for Batman when beaten, simply moving on to join a [[ComicBook/SuicideSquad government task force]] for an early release from prison with a smile.

* AssPull: John Doe being completely well aware of [[spoiler:all the events that've transpired in the game so far, including the identity of Bruce Wayne being Batman (possibly), Vicki Vale being Lady Arkham, the Vale and Arkham family history, every Arkham patients psychological profile, and]] the entire complex plot that the Children of Arkham are planning, all through the use of keeping up with Gotham's news feed; which most Batman fans know is usually biased in all their reporting.

* CompleteMonster: "Guardian of Gotham" & "City of Light": [[spoiler:[[PosthumousCharacter The Vales]], John and Patricia, are a pair of [[AbusiveParents monstrous foster parents]] who are responsible for Lady Arkham's insanity. Under the guise of being loving parents, the Vales take in foster children, but truthfully only want the government stipends that the kids' presences bring. Showcasing their [[ChildHater heinous hatred for children]], the Vales would lock their kids inside an [[TortureCellar underground room]], shackling them and [[WouldHurtAChild beating them bloody]] with belts over the course of years, regarding the children as nothing but animals to abuse and profit from to their liking.]]

** Also as of the Season 2 finale, [[spoiler: Tiffany Fox. She was almost universally beloved until then, but the revelation that she killed Riddler caused many fans to turn on her, and there's much debate as to whether forgiving her constitutes KarmaHoudini or not. Besides that, fans debate how well-handled the twist was, with some considering it a ShockingSwerve since it's hard to believe she could've found Riddler and planned his murder in such a short amount of time, when even Batman had trouble locating him. Some fans are also angry that this potentially invalidates most of the arc the season established for her, and contributes to Alfred's above mentioned breakdown. Others consider Tiffany talented and smart for tracking down Riddler by following Batman using the drone she gave him earlier. And despite arguments over her actions, statistics show that over 70% players chose to let her join Batman]].