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* AngstWhatAngst: While [[spoiler:a a substantial number of villagers are killed by the invading nomads]] in Chapter 31, the story glosses over most of the mourning on the survivors' part, apart from some mentions of funeral arrangements.

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* AngstWhatAngst: While [[spoiler:a a substantial number of villagers are killed by the invading nomads]] in Chapter 31, the story glosses over most of the mourning on the survivors' part, apart from some mentions of funeral arrangements.
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Oh hang on, someone had already removed this markout. Don't want to accidentally be accused of edit warring again.


%% * EsotericHappyEnding: Everything ends relatively happily, but the characters are still living in an area that's going to be taken over by UsefulNotes/TsaristRussia and its [[UsefulNotes/SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn successor]], they, or their descendants, aren't going to fare too well.

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%% * EsotericHappyEnding: Everything ends relatively happily, but the characters are still living in an area that's going to be taken over by UsefulNotes/TsaristRussia and its [[UsefulNotes/SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn successor]], they, or their descendants, aren't going to fare too well.
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How can it have an Esoteric Happy Ending when it's still ongoing? We don't even know that "everything ends relatively happily" yet. Even the Foregone Conclusion of history doesn't mean it qualifies for this trope yet, I think


* EsotericHappyEnding: Everything ends relatively happily, but the characters are still living in an area that's going to be taken over by UsefulNotes/TsaristRussia and its [[UsefulNotes/SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn successor]], they, or their descendants, aren't going to fare too well.

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%% * EsotericHappyEnding: Everything ends relatively happily, but the characters are still living in an area that's going to be taken over by UsefulNotes/TsaristRussia and its [[UsefulNotes/SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn successor]], they, or their descendants, aren't going to fare too well.
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As stated in this thread. This entry has two problems. First, while the premise may turn some people off, it also doesn't appeal to people who like this kind of premise. The manga doesn't fetishize the relationship, nor does it play like people expect from a premise like this. Therefore, the Age Gap Romance hasn't really affect the work's reputation. Second, this trope requires some confirmation that the work was hurt by the premise, something to show that the idea failed and was bad to begin with. A Brides Story has been running for a decade and has even received some awards, so clearly the idea isn't that bad.


* AudienceAlienatingPremise: It is a seinen manga full of SceneryPorn, following the lives of nomadic tribes of Middle Asia in the late XIX century. The main plot of the initial story arc, however, revolves around the PerfectlyArrangedMarriage between a 20-year-old woman and a 12-year-old boy, which is [[ValuesDissonance treated with historical accuracy.]]
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As stated in this thread. This is Deliberate.


* ValuesDissonance: The marriage between the 20-year-old Amir and the 12-year-old Karluk has turned off some from giving the manga a shot.

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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: Initially, the manga (whose starting premise is a 20-old woman marrying a 12-old boy), made a remarkable chunk of the fandom believe at first it was to be a [[LoliconAndShotacon shotacon]] fanservice story. Now it is much better known for being incredibly lush with detail. Carvings, food, clothing, everything is a treat for the CostumePorn and the DeliberateValuesDissonance stories



* HeartwarmingMoments: When Henry pays Ali for his help in guiding them the whole way, Ali is overjoyed because the amount is enough for him to afford a proper bride price so he can find a wife. And after being given such a gift, his next step is to ask Henry his first name (he'd only known him as Smith throughout their journey), and after learning said name, he declares his intention to name one of his ''children'' after him for his generosity. The act is so surprising to Henry that is pushes him to overwhelmed but happy tears.

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* HeartwarmingMoments: SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: When Henry pays Ali for his help in guiding them the whole way, Ali is overjoyed because the amount is enough for him to afford a proper bride price so he can find a wife. And after being given such a gift, his next step is to ask Henry his first name (he'd only known him as Smith throughout their journey), and after learning said name, he declares his intention to name one of his ''children'' after him for his generosity. The act is so surprising to Henry that is pushes him to overwhelmed but happy tears.
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* HeartwarmingMoments: When Henry pays Ali for his help in guiding them the whole way, Ali is overjoyed because the amount is enough for him to afford a proper bride price so he can find a wife. And after being given such a gift, his next step is to ask Henry his first name (he'd only known him as Smith throughout their journey), and after learning said name, he declares his intention to name one of his ''children'' after him for his generosity. The act is so surprising to Henry that is pushes him to overwhelmed but happy tears.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: It is a seinen manga full of SceneryPorn, following the lives of nomadic tribes of Middle Asia in the late XIX century. The main plot of the initial story arc, however, revolves around the PerfectlyArrangedMarriage between a 20-year-old woman and a 12-year-old boy, which is [[ValuesDissonance treated with historical accuracy.]]

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Improper removal of 2 YMMV tropes not designated "played with". Best Known For The Fanservice trope has been edited for clarity and to reflect the progression of time.


%% EsotericHappyEnding: Everything ends relatively happily, but the characters are still living in an area that's going to be taken over by UsefulNotes/TsaristRussia and its [[UsefulNotes/SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn successor]], they, or their descendants, aren't going to fare too well.

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%% * BestKnownForTheFanservice: Initially, the manga (whose starting premise is a 20-old woman marrying a 12-old boy), made a remarkable chunk of the fandom believe at first it was to be a [[LoliconAndShotacon shotacon]] fanservice story. Now it is much better known for being incredibly lush with detail. Carvings, food, clothing, everything is a treat for the CostumePorn and the DeliberateValuesDissonance stories
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EsotericHappyEnding: Everything ends relatively happily, but the characters are still living in an area that's going to be taken over by UsefulNotes/TsaristRussia and its [[UsefulNotes/SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn successor]], they, or their descendants, aren't going to fare too well.



%% ValuesDissonance: The marriage between the 20-year-old Amir and the 12-year-old Karluk has turned off some from giving the manga a shot.

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%% * ValuesDissonance: The marriage between the 20-year-old Amir and the 12-year-old Karluk has turned off some from giving the manga a shot.
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* AngstWhatAngst: While [[spoiler:a a substantial number of villagers are killed by the invading nomads in chapter 31,]] Chapter 31, the story glosses over most of the mourning on the survivors' part, apart from some mentions of funeral arrangements.

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* AngstWhatAngst: While [[spoiler:a a substantial number of villagers are killed by the invading nomads nomads]] in chapter 31,]] Chapter 31, the story glosses over most of the mourning on the survivors' part, apart from some mentions of funeral arrangements.
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Up To Eleven is a defunct trope


* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: And '''HOW'''. As per Mori's usual standards, the art has taken UpToEleven how much detail can be beautifully drawn on every single thing in manga.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: And '''HOW'''. As per Mori's usual standards, the art has taken UpToEleven demonstrates how much detail can be beautifully drawn on every single thing in manga.

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YMMV tropes can't be played with.


* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: And '''HOW'''. The As per Mori's usual standards, the art has taken UpToEleven how much detail can be beautifully drawn on every single thing in manga.
* BestKnownForTheFanservice: Interestingly, inverted. This manga (whose starting premise, a 20-old woman marrying a 12-old boy, made a remarkable chunk of the fandom believe at first it was to be a [[LoliconAndShotacon shotacon]] fanservice story) is actually much better known for being incredibly lush with detail. Carvings, food, clothing, everything is a treat for the CostumePorn and the DeliberateValuesDissonance stories
* EsotericHappyEnding: Everything ends relatively happily, but the characters are still living in an area that's going to be taken over by UsefulNotes/TsaristRussia and its [[UsefulNotes/SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn successor]], they, or their descendants, aren't going to fare too well.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: And '''HOW'''. The As per Mori's usual standards, the art has taken UpToEleven how much detail can be beautifully drawn on every single thing in manga.
* BestKnownForTheFanservice: Interestingly, inverted. This manga (whose starting premise, a 20-old woman marrying a 12-old boy, made a remarkable chunk of the fandom believe at first it was to be a [[LoliconAndShotacon shotacon]] fanservice story) is actually much better known for being incredibly lush with detail. Carvings, food, clothing, everything is a treat for the CostumePorn and the DeliberateValuesDissonance stories
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%% EsotericHappyEnding: Everything ends relatively happily, but the characters are still living in an area that's going to be taken over by UsefulNotes/TsaristRussia and its [[UsefulNotes/SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn successor]], they, or their descendants, aren't going to fare too well.



* ValuesDissonance: The marriage between the 20-year-old Amir and the 12-year-old Karluk has turned off some from giving the manga a shot.

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* %% ValuesDissonance: The marriage between the 20-year-old Amir and the 12-year-old Karluk has turned off some from giving the manga a shot.
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* EsotericHappyEnding: Everything ends relatively happily, but the characters are still living in an area that's going to be taken over by UsefulNotes/TsaristRussia and they, or their descendants, aren't going to fare too well.

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* EsotericHappyEnding: Everything ends relatively happily, but the characters are still living in an area that's going to be taken over by UsefulNotes/TsaristRussia and its [[UsefulNotes/SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn successor]], they, or their descendants, aren't going to fare too well.
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Ship Sinking is not YMMV and has been redefined to require in-universe acknowledgment for both the possibility of the couple and the ship sinking itself.


* ShipSinking: The Pariya and Azel ship gets totally superseded by canon once Umar enters the picture.
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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: Interestingly, inverted. This manga (whose starting premise, a 20-old woman marrying a 12-old boy, made a remarkable chunk of the fandom believe at first it was to be a [[LoliconAndShotacon shotacon]] fanservice story) is actually much better known incredibly lush with detail. Carvings, food, clothing, everything is a treat for the CostumePorn and the DeliberateValuesDissonance stories

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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: Interestingly, inverted. This manga (whose starting premise, a 20-old woman marrying a 12-old boy, made a remarkable chunk of the fandom believe at first it was to be a [[LoliconAndShotacon shotacon]] fanservice story) is actually much better known for being incredibly lush with detail. Carvings, food, clothing, everything is a treat for the CostumePorn and the DeliberateValuesDissonance stories

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