History WMG / Shrek

* He was hardened, but not by much. It didn't take a whole lot to convince him that Shrek didn't deserve to die.

* [[DidNotDoTheResearch Narcolepsy doesn't work like that.]]

[[WMG: A Puss in Boots sequel will feature a plot inspired by a princess tale like TheLittleMermaid]]

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All of the other creatures seem to be from a fairy tale or story. In chapters 31 and 32 of Carlo Collodi's ''The Adventures of {{Pinocchio}}'', children who stayed in Toyland would turn into donkeys.

* They actually do hint at this in the second film. Since it was FG who turned King Harold [[spoiler: into a human after Lillian fell in love with him as the Frog Prince]], he figured he owed her a favor, so they set up a XanatosRoulette so that Fiona and Charming would wed as soon as he got to the tower (but as we all know, Shrek beat him to the punch) - the Roulette is even more played into the theory as Fiona actually had no idea about Harold's plan beyond sending her away to the tower - which she calls school in her girlhood diary.

Since Fiona's father was a frog despite his human form he still carries frog genes as such Fiona's true form is that of an Ogre her "cure" was actually Fairy Godmother's blessing as it allowed her to have a normal childhood as a human during the day but due to either the Fairy Tale nature of the Fairy Godmother's magic or as a XanatosGambit to take control over Far Far Away the "curse" would turn her into the form closest to her true love with their first kiss.

The spin-off film was just an orgin story explaing how he became a hero and got his boots, and why he is spanish. If their is a sequel it will have him venturing out of San Ricardo with Kitty Softpaws and finding themeselves in a Far Far Away type kingdom tormented by an evil oger.

He was a runt. Listen when he goes to the AU, one of the ogres says he's kind of small. He definitely looks much smaller than them

* I always figured he was one of the Town Musicians of Bremen. For those not in the know, it's a German tale about a bunch of TalkingAnimals who want to go to Bremen and become...er...musicians. Hence Donkey's singing, humming and generally just being annoying.

[[WMG: The Fairy Godmother is the one who placed the curse on Fiona.]]
She cursed Fiona with a spell that could only be broken by true love's kiss. Basically, whoever rescued her would be the true love in Fiona's eyes, as seen in the first movie. The Godmother wanted her son, Charming, to marry Fiona so he could become king because she only wants the absolute best she can give to her son.

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[[WMG: There were worse days to lose.]]
Losing a day implies that the traded day never existed to the character who traded it. Everyone else continues on as if the day was there, but the character seems to be erased from existence that day. As well as any memories of that day being erased. In the movie, Rumple takes the day Shrek was born because it extends the effect for all time. But there was at least one other day Rumple could have taken away that would have caused plenty of problems. Shrek mentions taking away the day he met Donkey. Think about it. The day Shrek and Donkey met was also the day he started his trek to DuLoc. So, Shrek wouldn't have be able to start the first movie's quest until after that day. Meaning assuming he would still decide to leave his swamp to go to DuLoc, there's no guarantee he even becomes friends with Donkey, which in turns means he might have to deal with Dragon alone. But even if, he still manages to become friends with Donkey and the plot still turns out exactly as it did in the movie or if he manages to save Fiona by himself the damage would be done. Delaying his quest by a single day means the Rumple would succeed in his deal with the King and Queen because it took them until last second to receive the new originally. So effectively, Far Far Away would turn into what we saw in the alternate timeline in 4 anyway, but with differences. The most likely forms of alternate timeless are like this:
1. Shrek and Donkey don't become friends. Shrek fails at saving Fiona without Donkey distracting Dragon. This pretty much replicates the AU in Shrek 4, the only difference being that Shrek disappears not because he never exist but instead he died trying to save Fiona.
2. Shrek and Donkey become friends. Shrek succeeds in saving Fiona. Shrek and Fiona share true loves kiss. Rumple completes the deal with King and Queen. Shrek 2 and 3 never happen. In this timeline, despite Shrek never saving Donkey, Donkey still attaches himself with Shrek. Because of this, there is nothing stopping the story from continueing like in the first Shrek. Ultimately, though Rumple would most likely try to capture the Ogre's like in the AU in 4. Shrek would be a part of the resistance from the beginning. In this timeline, Shrek would continue to exist after the day was over, but the new world would persist just like Rumple mentioned the AU in 4 would. In this version, Donkey would also already be a part of the resistance too. As a result, Donkey may not know how to figure out the exit clause (which would need to be different from True Love's Kiss as Fiona and Shrek would still be in love).
3. Shrek and Donkey don't become friends. Shrek succeeds in saving Fiona. Shrek and Fiona never kiss. Donkey is one of the key reason both Shrek and Fiona finally admit their true feelings. It is possible without Donkey there to convince both of them to open their shells, they may never had. This causes a future similar to the AU 4, but once again Shrek will not disappear at the end of the day. Fiona would disappear when True Love's Kiss doesn't happen between her an Farquuad. She'd eventually fall in with the Ogre resistance, which Shrek would eventually be brought into as well. They get a second chance at True Love, but this time instead of starting from scratch they have previous relationship wrinkles to iron out.
4. Shrek and Donkey don't become friends. Shrek succeeds in saving Fiona. Shrek and Fiona share True Love's Kiss. Same as what I said in 2 above, but without Donkey.

Another problem can arise if the only reason Shrek's memory remains unaltered in the fourth movie is because Rumple took the day he was born and therefore Shrek is an outsider in the timeline. If Rumple took a day, that does write Shrek out of time then its possible that Shrek's memory could have been overwritten. So taking away the day Donkey met Shrek could have made Shrek completely forget his friendship with Donkey. Without knowledge of his and Donkey's friendship he may have not have picked-up Donkey during His Day as an Ogre. Which funnily enough, completely changes the events of the fourth movie in Rumple's favor as Donkey is a key element in saving Shrek at least twice and maybe three times. So if any of the possible futures I mention above happen (except number 2), it would have ended with the events being stuck as an AU, if Donkey hadn't been there to help Shrek. It shows how important Donkey and Shrek's friendship is. And to think Shrek was the one who suggested that day. Luckily, Rumple was more worried about writing Shrek out of existence and didn't realize the significance of Donkey. Otherwise, most of the alternate timelines I can think of actually give Rumple a better chance of winning. Though granted it is impossible to say how exactly things would have ended. It just goes to show you how much an effect a single day can have.

[[WMG: Neither Farquaad kissing Fiona at their wedding or Prince Charming kissing Fiona at the ball would have worked to keep her human.]]

* [[DidNotDoTheResearch You guys obviously haven't read the original Shrek book.]] There was an actual talking Donkey in it which gave way to the character in the film.