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The last we saw of Penny in Volume 8 is her corpse laying on one of Ambrosius's pathways. Afterwards, she's never seen again--but when Cinder undos the pathways, it should seem logical that the corpse fell into the Ever After along with Jaune. However, as of the end of episode eight, Penny's corpse is still nowhere to be found in the Ever After. Perhaps they're saving the corpse for the finale of the volume for a specific reason, which could possibly even include bringing Penny back to life again through some unknown method.

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The last we saw of Penny in Volume 8 is her corpse dead body laying on one of Ambrosius's pathways. Afterwards, she's never seen again--but when Cinder undos undid the pathways, it should seem logical that the corpse fell into the Ever After along with Jaune. However, as of the end of episode eight, Penny's corpse body is still nowhere to be found in the Ever After. Perhaps they're saving the corpse for the finale of the volume for a specific reason, which could possibly even include bringing Penny back to life again through some unknown method.
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[[WMG: The Jabberwalker will kill the Curious Cat as its hidden Purpose.]]
The Great Tree and the Curious Cat are linked as the Cat is meant to be the {{Psychopomp}} who guides Afterans to the tree so they may ascend. But the Cat is rebelling against its purpose and has defiled a human, robbed them of ''their'' purpose, to get what it wants. This foreseen sin is why the Tree ascended something into the Jabberwalker, who [[KilledOffForReal removes Afterans from ascension]]. In the final struggle of the volume, the Curious Cat may or may not be driven out of Neo and left vulnerable for the Jabberwalker to eat.
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[[WMG: Ruby will ascend and gain a massive upgrade to her Silver Eyes]]
There's no way that Ruby is actually dead and she is almost certainly going to ascend because of the Tree. The process will let her address the problems she's been having and will also have the benefit of making her Silver Eyes more powerful and giving them new abilities.

[[WMG: Little's ascension will lead them to becoming a wolf]]
To tie into Ruby's connection with wolves. They may even become a {{Familiar}} to Ruby if her ascension grants her magic.
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* Jossed: The next episode has her encounter Neopolitan along with her illusions based on people in Ruby's life that have died which culminates in the death of Little at her hands and causes Ruby to be DrivenToSuicide and drink the tea made from the great tree's leaf to "ascend".

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The last we saw of Penny in Volume 8 is her corpse laying on one of Ambrosius's pathways. Afterwards, she's never seen again--but when Cinder undos the pathways, it should seem logical that the corpse fell into the Ever After along with Jaune.

Now, as of the end of episode eight, Penny's corpse is still nowhere to be found in the Ever After. Perhaps they're saving the corpse for the finale of the volume for a specific reason, which could possibly even include bringing Penny back to life again through some unknown method.

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The last we saw of Penny in Volume 8 is her corpse laying on one of Ambrosius's pathways. Afterwards, she's never seen again--but when Cinder undos the pathways, it should seem logical that the corpse fell into the Ever After along with Jaune.

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Jaune. However, as of the end of episode eight, Penny's corpse is still nowhere to be found in the Ever After. Perhaps they're saving the corpse for the finale of the volume for a specific reason, which could possibly even include bringing Penny back to life again through some unknown method.
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[[WMG:Penny's corpse will play a major part in the final two episodes]]
The last we saw of Penny in Volume 8 is her corpse laying on one of Ambrosius's pathways. Afterwards, she's never seen again--but when Cinder undos the pathways, it should seem logical that the corpse fell into the Ever After along with Jaune.

Now, as of the end of episode eight, Penny's corpse is still nowhere to be found in the Ever After. Perhaps they're saving the corpse for the finale of the volume for a specific reason, which could possibly even include bringing Penny back to life again through some unknown method.
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[[WMG: Ruby will go rogue and leave (and/or even disband) Team RWBY.]]
Given Ruby's [[DespairEventHorizon less-than-great mental state]] right now and how, at least as of Episode 7, Ruby has run away from her allies, it's very possible that Ruby could go rogue. We also know that Ruby doesn't want to fight anymore, so this could be Ruby leaving her team for good (assuming she doesn't pull a 10MinuteRetirement, which is more likely). If she's that determined to give up fighting, she might even disband Team RWBY outright.

[[WMG: Ruby will become a DeathSeeker AntiHero.]]

[[WMG: There will be a battle between a berserk/broken Ruby Rose VS the rest of Team RWBY and Jaune.]]
This could be mid-season or act as the final climactic battle at the end. Ruby, either so far down the DespairEventHorizon or otherwise driven mad, will fight against her former friends. This could possibly be instigated when they attempt to stop Ruby from killing Neo.
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[[WMG: Alyx ascended to become Little.]]
Because Alyx Little sounds a lot like Alice Liddel. Ever After is a land of puns, after all.

[[WMG: The Blacksmith is the Tree.]]
She offered to exchange Ruby's 'burden' for any one of the weapons, metaphorically (and perhaps literally) reforging her, like the tree 'ascends' people. And she was seen forging a butterfly wing in the episode immediately after the Herbalist (a caterpillar) 'ascended.' The cat did say that the tree came to you, after all...
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[[WMG: The clock fruit slowed Jaune's aging.]]
He was present when Alyx and Lewis fell. He had also been waiting for Team RWBY "for years" at that point. Neither sibling's name fits the iconic color naming rule, which in-universe was in response to the Great War, ''80 years'' ago in the show's lore. Since Jaune was 19 when he fell into Ever After, he should be over a ''century'' old. Yet he still looks pretty spry, despite some gray in his hair. This could be an issue when it comes to leaving, as he either won't want to leave thanks to spending more time in Ever After than Remnant, or his time here leaving him out of place in his old life.
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[[WMG: Alyx actually sacrificed herself to get Lewis home; and became the blacksmith.]]
Her brother wrote the book with her as the sole hero because of survivor guilt.
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[[WMG: Little is Summer Rose]]
Or rather, Little will become Summer Rose.

At some point, Ruby will almost be swallowed by the Ever After because she thinks she's 'not a good huntress.' Her team will stop her from being eaten, but the hole won't close until Little decides to become the person that Ruby needs most and hop in. The Ever After will reformat Little using the template that Ruby provided (i.e. her memories of Summer) but with the core persona of an enthusiastic mouse. They won't meet up again for a few episodes, by which point Little Summer will have gotten the axe-rifle from the blacksmith. Ruby, of course, will be very emotional, especially after she realizes what happened in full.
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[[WMG: Alternatively, Lewis is the one who got out, the true author of the story and one of Ozma's incarnations predating Ozpin, and Alyx has become the Jabberwalker]]
Oz has been established as a fairy tale collector in-universe and as an actual hero of many of them, so adding another one to his memoirs isn't unlikely. Lewis had similar color scheme and eye color to Oscar, and him being "kind and clever one" falls under "like-minded soul" criteria. He and his sister fell into Ever After through some means related to Relics or Oz's magic. At some point after abandoning Jaune and the Cat, Alyx had turned on him, or had indeed tried to sacrifice him to the Tree but something went not as she planned, tranforming her into the beast, her selfishness and cruelty becoming the driving force behind its attacks on Afterans. Either way, with Ozma's help, Lewis was able to fend her off and return to Remnant, where he wrote ''himself'' out of the story and portrayed Alyx as its sole hero, to give it a better Aesop but also to honor the memory of his fallen sister (something that, as we already know, Ozpin has done to Lionheart). It's possible that Ozpin's decision to let Jaune into Beacon, as well as attention to his friends, has come from recognizing him as the future(-in-the-past) Rusted Knight, or at least being reminded of him.
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** All jossed. While initially assumed to be the afterlife, it soon becomes clear that the Ever After

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** All jossed. While initially assumed to be the afterlife, it soon becomes clear that the Ever After
After is in fact the setting of one of Remnant’s most popular fairy tales.



The reason the Jabberwalker moves so strangely and [[KilledOffForReal kills Afterans without them ascending]] is that its very existence is unnatural. Lewis was taken by the Tree and remade like an Afterian, but humans aren't supposed to go through that process. The Jabberwalker was [[CameBackWrong the failed attempt of ascending a human]].

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The reason the Jabberwalker moves so strangely and [[KilledOffForReal kills Afterans without them ascending]] is that its very existence is unnatural. Lewis was taken by the Tree and remade like an Afterian, Afteran, but humans aren't supposed to go through that process. The Jabberwalker was [[CameBackWrong the failed attempt of ascending a human]].

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* Confirmed. Instead of the Grimm, the Ever After has the Jabberwalker.




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** All jossed. While initially assumed to be the afterlife, it soon becomes clear that the Ever After




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* Confirmed, but jossed on Ruby handing Penny’s sword to her to make it a new weapon.



[[WMG: Related to Neo's "blaze of glory" moment, Trvia Vanille of the ''Roman Holiday'' book would be reintroduced after her "Neo" self would [[KilledOffForReal meet her end]].]]

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[[WMG: Related to Neo's "blaze of glory" moment, Trvia Trivia Vanille of the ''Roman Holiday'' book would be reintroduced after her "Neo" self would [[KilledOffForReal meet her end]].]]




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* Jossed. [[spoiler: Blake and Yang do confess to each other, but there is no anger involved. Instead, they’re caught in a punderstorm where they have admit their feelings to each other to get out.]]



The reason the Jabberwalker moves so strangely and [[KilledOffForReal kills Afterians without them ascending]] is that its existence is unnatural. Lewis was taken by the Tree and remade like an Afterian, but humans aren't supposed to go through that process. The Jabberwalker was [[CameBackWrong the failed attempt of ascending a human]].

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The reason the Jabberwalker moves so strangely and [[KilledOffForReal kills Afterians Afterans without them ascending]] is that its very existence is unnatural. Lewis was taken by the Tree and remade like an Afterian, but humans aren't supposed to go through that process. The Jabberwalker was [[CameBackWrong the failed attempt of ascending a human]].
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* It’s possible that when the Ever After tried to ascend Lewis, it had trouble assigning a role and purpose for him due to him coming from a world with different rules. In the end, the decided to grant him the ability to apply a concept he and his world had accepted as a fundamental truth (that all things must die) to the rest of Ever After.
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[[WMG: Lewis is the Jabberwalker]]
The reason the Jabberwalker moves so strangely and [[KilledOffForReal kills Afterians without them ascending]] is that its existence is unnatural. Lewis was taken by the Tree and remade like an Afterian, but humans aren't supposed to go through that process. The Jabberwalker was [[CameBackWrong the failed attempt of ascending a human]].
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[[WMG: Jaune will not return to Remnant]]
Be it through machination of the story, personal choice, or an act of sacrifice, Jaune will not be coming back to Remnant, and Volume 9 will make his last appearance. He will either voluntarily choose to remain in the Ever After after deciding that he's now a part of it, or will sacrifice himself to the tree so that Team RWBY will be able to go home. Either way, this will become a point of conflict between them and Ren and Nora, and will lead to the latter having a permanent falling out with the former.
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Somewhat confirmed: Volume 9 will be 10 episodes long.

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Confirmed: It is shown to start raining around Ruby whenever she is sad.



Jossed: The island is the Ever After, the world featured in the in-universe fairy tale "The Girl Who Fell Through The World" and there are no Grimm in sight on the island.



Jossed: If takes place in the Ever After, the world featured in the in-universe fairy tale "The Girl Who Fell Through The World".

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Jossed: If It takes place in the Ever After, the world featured in the in-universe fairy tale "The Girl Who Fell Through The World".

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Somewhat confirmed: Team RWBY, Jaune and Neo end up in the "Ever After", the world featured in the In-universe fairy tale "The Girl Who Fell Through The World" and spend the season trying to get to the tree so thst can return to Remnant. The world itself alludes to both Wonderland and Looking-Glass World.

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Somewhat confirmed: Team RWBY, Jaune and Neo end up in the "Ever After", the world featured in the In-universe fairy tale "The Girl Who Fell Through The World" and spend the season trying to get to the tree so thst they can return to Remnant. The world itself alludes to both Wonderland and Looking-Glass World.




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** Confirmed to be jossed since both Roman Holiday and Volume 9 state the girl's name was Alyx.


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Jossed: The episode titles have nothing to do with Human Trauma, Sadness and how to overcome them. Instead, they are alliterative in order to create a sense of whimsy.


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Jossed: If takes place in the Ever After, the world featured in the in-universe fairy tale "The Girl Who Fell Through The World".
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Sinc the writers mentioned about Volume 9 "a short and completely different season", here's a list of possible outcomes from the previous volume:

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Sinc Since the writers mentioned about Volume 9 "a short and completely different season", here's a list of possible outcomes from the previous volume:





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\nSomewhat confirmed: Team RWBY, Jaune and Neo end up in the "Ever After", the world featured in the In-universe fairy tale "The Girl Who Fell Through The World" and spend the season trying to get to the tree so thst can return to Remnant. The world itself alludes to both Wonderland and Looking-Glass World.
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* Winter will try to find Pietro and tell him what happened to Penny.

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* Winter will try to find Pietro and Maria and tell him them what happened to Penny.
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[[WMG: There will be a spin-off show taking place in the Ever After after the volume ends]]
The Ever After looks like it has a lot of potential--what's not to say that the island Team RWBY wound up on is just but one part of an even bigger world? A show taking place in the Ever After could give us more info about this mysterious location, what other places are located there, and even how it came to be.
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[[WMG: It will take place on the real Menagerie depicted in the myth; The Shallow Sea from Literature/RWBYFairyTalesOfRemnant]]
From the teaser trailer we got, it seems to take place on an island and there is a talking mouse who has never seen a human before meeting Ruby. Since the fairy tales of Remnant are supposed to all be true (to an extent), they may meet the God of Animals from the myths and get some answers on what really happened when it was on Remnant.
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[[WMG: The woman in front of the fire is a blacksmith.]]
The mysterious woman in the front of the fire from the Volume 9 trailer, is not only a warrior but also a blacksmith that would probably help Team RWBY and Jaune either upgrade their weapons or make new ones for them. Ruby would hand the green blade that Penny made to the woman and would use it to make a new powerful weapon for Ruby to use.
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[[WMG: Team JNR and the others will attempt to [[SealedEvilInACan lock Salem in Vacuo's Maiden Vault.]]]]
The JustEatGilligan surrounding how magical prisons would allow Salem to be defeated without being destroyed has now been brought up enough that it's far from unbelievable that a member of the writing staff will hear of the possibility, if they don't finally realize it on their own. Given this season has much of the cast lose the Relic of Creation ([[StoryBreakerPower which would make such a mission far, far easier]]), but also heading to the one place we know has a still functional vault, this would be a good place for an AuthorsSavingThrow surrounding the issue: the heroes will try to lock Salem in the vault, but fail, and the series end before they can get another chance. Regardless, Ozpin will either commend them on their outside-the-box thinking, noting how this proves that even immortal heroes sometimes need the young, original minds of the newest generation to solve problems, or provide some handwave as to why he thought of it, but dismissed it as a plan in the past.

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[[WMG: Crescent Rose will be destroyed beyond repair and Ruby would recieve a new weapon at the end of Volume 9.]]

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[[WMG: Crescent [[WMG:Crescent Rose will be destroyed beyond repair and Ruby would recieve receive a new weapon at the end of Volume 9.]]


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[[WMG:The island is the sacred land of the ''Grimm''.]]
The abnormally cheery and vibrant island, however dangerous, is extremely out of place as a satellite dimension of the DeathWorld that is Remnant. Grimm are expendable; how Salem and the Horde haven't found this place by lobbing Grimm into her experiments or nearby portals is truly mysterious.
Unless ''they'' were protecting this place.
What if ''this'' is where the refuse of human thoughts and dreams go after the Grimm have sucked the unstable aura from their victims in the Grimm spawning pools? More importantly, what if the island is a twisted ThroughTheEyesOfMadness situation, where the Grimm's actual souls live as mere mortals, oblivious that the monsters ''they'' hunt correspond to the humans they slaughter in Remnant?
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Maybe that's what we're ''supposed'' to think, in order to throw us off the scent of the ''real'' traitor. Winter seems like a possible candidate- she's got General Ironwood's ear, and unlike Whitley, she has a reason to resent the way things are now (because of her father). And these are, after all, the same writers who gave us [[Machinima/RedVsBlue Fe]][[FalseFriend lix]].

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Maybe that's what we're ''supposed'' to think, in order to throw us off the scent of the ''real'' traitor. Winter seems like a possible candidate- she's got General Ironwood's ear, and unlike Whitley, she has a reason to resent the way things are now (because of her father). And these are, after all, the same writers who gave us [[Machinima/RedVsBlue [[WebAnimation/RedVsBlue Fe]][[FalseFriend lix]].

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And as a side note, if Penny and her friends manage to return to Remnant by the end of this volume, she could be saddened when she leaves the new world she and her friends fell through, like the girl in the fairy tale. That could allow her to have an rather emotional moment, harkening back to the line "And is this what "all the feels" means?" in the song "Friend", right down to saying the line in question.

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And as a side note, if Penny and her friends manage to return to Remnant by the end of this volume, she could be saddened when she leaves the new world she and her friends fell through, like the girl in the fairy tale. That could allow her to have an a rather emotional moment, harkening back to the line "And is this what "all the feels" means?" in the song "Friend", right down to saying the line in question.
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* Implied to be jossed as of the Volume 9 teaser; it heavily implies that the Girl Who Fell Through the World is actually Ruby.
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Wiki/ namespace clean up.


Now why Ruby? Well besides her being the protagonist, she's arguably the best suited for it since she's a simple honest soul, someone with relatively few pretensions or notions about things that would make her views complicated, condescending or manipulative, like Ozpin, Qrow and so forth. This is important because when you take Salem's personality in "The Lost Fable" into consideration (and Wiki/TVTropes' Fridge Brilliance section), she's got the emotion maturity of a child due to her years of isolation and a mix of abandonment issues and fear of manipulation, and she hates being condescended to (regardless of intent). Having Ruby be the one to relate to her and convince her of the error of her ways is arguably the best possible solution since she is relatively unburdened by complicated beliefs or zeal, she's not trying to manipulate or condescend like many people in Salem's past, and being a relative child herself (thus possibly reminding Salem of her daughters) would probably be able to get to Salem's long buried innocence and compassion.

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Now why Ruby? Well besides her being the protagonist, she's arguably the best suited for it since she's a simple honest soul, someone with relatively few pretensions or notions about things that would make her views complicated, condescending or manipulative, like Ozpin, Qrow and so forth. This is important because when you take Salem's personality in "The Lost Fable" into consideration (and Wiki/TVTropes' Website/TVTropes' Fridge Brilliance section), she's got the emotion maturity of a child due to her years of isolation and a mix of abandonment issues and fear of manipulation, and she hates being condescended to (regardless of intent). Having Ruby be the one to relate to her and convince her of the error of her ways is arguably the best possible solution since she is relatively unburdened by complicated beliefs or zeal, she's not trying to manipulate or condescend like many people in Salem's past, and being a relative child herself (thus possibly reminding Salem of her daughters) would probably be able to get to Salem's long buried innocence and compassion.
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Wrong trope. It's not a dystopian setting, life's actually pretty good in the kingdoms... it's the Death World trope.


* And of course, Volume 2 will probably have blood. The trailer to Volume 2 looked like the heroes were battling humans anyway, so them bleeding would show that this is not the [[SugarWiki/SweetDreamsFuel nice and happy,]] [[CrapsackWorld if dark land]] of RWBY Volume 1 as you remembered. This would also be a reference to Monty Oum's other series, ''WebAnimation/DeadFantasy'', which used blood in the same way as I described it above.

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* And of course, Volume 2 will probably have blood. The trailer to Volume 2 looked like the heroes were battling humans anyway, so them bleeding would show that this is not the [[SugarWiki/SweetDreamsFuel nice and happy,]] [[CrapsackWorld [[DeathWorld if dark land]] of RWBY Volume 1 as you remembered. This would also be a reference to Monty Oum's other series, ''WebAnimation/DeadFantasy'', which used blood in the same way as I described it above.



Now that the second episode shows Ozpin in a light that we have never seen before, plus the Volume's intro seems to put a lot of focus on Ozpin and his past, there's a reason to believe that Volume 6 will explore Ozpin's character (that hopefully does not overshadow the titular heroes). Namely, his and Salem's shared backstory and what leads to the Remnant being a CrapsackWorld that it is. It might even be Ozpin's own fault that results in the Moon breaking into pieces as shown in the intro. The rest of the volume will be spent with characters [[WhatTheHellHero calling out Ozpin for what he did]], and Ozpin and Oscar battling for control of the body. Either the Volume's gonna end with Oscar finally breaking the hold Ozpin has on him, or something happens that leads to Ozpin relinquishing the hold on him somehow.

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Now that the second episode shows Ozpin in a light that we have never seen before, plus the Volume's intro seems to put a lot of focus on Ozpin and his past, there's a reason to believe that Volume 6 will explore Ozpin's character (that hopefully does not overshadow the titular heroes). Namely, his and Salem's shared backstory and what leads to the Remnant being a CrapsackWorld DeathWorld that it is. It might even be Ozpin's own fault that results in the Moon breaking into pieces as shown in the intro. The rest of the volume will be spent with characters [[WhatTheHellHero calling out Ozpin for what he did]], and Ozpin and Oscar battling for control of the body. Either the Volume's gonna end with Oscar finally breaking the hold Ozpin has on him, or something happens that leads to Ozpin relinquishing the hold on him somehow.

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