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* ''Anime/StrikerS'' implies that Lost Logia include artifacts from ''any'' ancient civilisation. ("It was considered a Lost Logia even in the time of ancient Belka".)

* I suspect Yuuno learned some magic in order to protect himself from natural dangers while on expeditions with the expectation that he would need armed escorts for anything more dangerous than the Jewel Seed monsters. He primarily got barrier, teleportation and healing skills so he could protect himself and support his allies from afar. Since much of the cast has strong barriers, Shamal not only has healing abilities but also sensors and capture magic, and Yuuno hasn't had any expeditions that we know of, he's decided to stay out of combat, since he doesn't think he can contribute enough (presumably similar to how Arf stopped fighting in ''Anime/StrikerS'', and switched to a loli form to save mana).

* Some of the main cast are just as likely of a target. I mean, a main character for four consecutive seasons that's also reaching the [[CompetenceZone magical age of 25 and up]] [[ObsoleteMentor with new cast all around]], things may start looking [[MentorOccupationalHazard pretty]] [[ObiWan grim]] [[HeroicSacrifice for them]]. Unless, of course, the [[OlderAndWiser general trend]] from ''Anime/StrikerS'' continues as they were, then all of the new cast introduced that season are prime targets for StuffedIntoTheFridge

* Makes sense. It's already stated that she's on vacation in order to recover from the events of ''Anime/StrikerS''; and her previous behavior has shown she tends to overextend herself when told to take it easy.

* In Part 20 of ''Anime/StrikerS Sound Stage 4'', Shamal suggests that Nanoha take a year or two off of magic, which might be part of the reason why she's on leave and working as a civil servant in ''Manga/ViVid''.

In the second episode of the original series, Yuuno Scrya points out that his given name is first, after Takamachi Nanoha introduces herself with her family name first. Fate introduces herself with her given name first without mentioning this, most likely causing Signum to believe that it was. Fate most likely didn't know that Signum was making that assumption, and didn't bother to correct it. Interestingly enough, Shamal twice refers to Fate as "Testarossa-chan" ("-chan" being an honorific typically not used on last names), while referring to Nanoha (who introduced herself to Vita with her family name first) as "Nanoha-chan". While Shamal switches to "Fate-chan" in ''Anime/StrikerS'', Signum does not change; presumably because calling her "Testarossa" stuck due to their fighting one-on-one on several occasions.

According to the A's manga, she [[VillainsOutShopping spends much of her time]] playing with senior citizens in the club. In ''Anime/StrikerS'', she notes how old the three legendary admirals are, but after Fate and Nanoha point out how important they are, says that she likes them anyway. It's also revealed that one of the admirals took a liking to Vita.

The Ground Forces, as seen in ''Anime/StrikerS'', seem to be somewhere between glorified police and actual soldiers. The Belkan Saint Church's fighters give a better accounting of themselves. The Church might therefore be the real, war-minded Army; the Ground Forces are dedicated peacekeeping and garrison troops.

While the TSAB had the parts, the technology doesn't seem to have been in vogue for field agents like Chrono; Raising Heart didn't have it when Yuuno picked it up; Precia and/or Fate didn't build it into Bardiche. Considering the obvious power boost and its usefulness, as well as its apparent ubiquity for anyone not of the RedshirtArmy in ''Anime/StrikerS'', it seems criminally stupid none of the Devices included it originally. It must have been unusable somehow. Scans of the Wolkenritter's Devices must have been instrumental in developing Raising Heart Excellion and Bardiche Assault, and in turn those two Devices and Graf Eisen/Levantine repopularized the technology.

* In ''Anime/StrikerS'', Vita and Shamal discuss how their connection to the book seems to be slowly fading. Presumably given enough time, they'll start to age too.

And in extension, the Belkan Empire should actually be Anglicized as the Balkin Empire. If you think about it, it fits. The shot we always have of the Saint Church is in a highly forested and mountainous area, that is quickly open to a sea. Some of the tactical screens that we see in ''Anime/StrikerS'' seem to be shots of the Aegean sea. Also, the de-facto alphabet of the TSAB seems to be the Hellenistic alphabet. I'm not well versed on the supplementary material, but it seems to me like, in that case, the Saint Church could be what the Greek Orthodox Church became after wide-scale revelations of magic became known, and in the chaos, it spread to the Holy Roman Empire (Aka, Germany), which is why all of their devices speak German. There are holes (such as how the Midchildan devices picked up English), but I'm sure I could find ways to patch it with more information.

** Notice that Teana has considerably less "tsun" in her {{Tsundere}} personality in Sound Stage X, only getting mildly annoyed at TheGlomp, which could be a sign that she's continuing to warm up to Subaru, possibly romantically. Then again, she seems to be in Subaru's apartment for the first time in ''Anime/StrikerS'', although she hasn't seen her in person for a year and a half.

* Well, something like this happened already after the end of the Saint King Reunification War: the Belkans used the so-called "mass-based weaponry" extensively, destroying their own homeworld and polluting the rest, so TSAB's first action was to forbid all advance mass-based technology in favor of pure energy-based ones. The energy-based technology is what we know as regular MagiTek in the series. The idea of an EternalRecurrence is very nice, though, since we know that energy-based magic also involves considerable dangers, such as warping of the time-space, which destroyed the Garden of Time and which was presumably prevented in ''Anime/StrikerS'' by putting limiters on Riot Force 6. Maybe, the previous incarnation of an energy-based magical society was Al-Hazard?
** The theory is bassed on the assumption that the last major shift happened at least a thousand years before the series, after the Belkan civil war and the recurrence is rather specific to Mid-childa.

** The Einhart arc seems to be something of a prologue to the main story of ''Manga/ViVid'', so it's possible that, like what happened with [[spoiler:Ginga and Vivio]] in ''Anime/StrikerS'', Einhart will somehow be controlled by the villains and Vivio will have to defeat her while fighting for her life.

* Interestingly enough, there's a brief scene in Episode 3 of StrikerS that touches on this. After Nanoha and Fate change into their brown uniforms, Hayate points out that for the first time since middle school, all three are in the same uniform, but suggests that Nanoha will wear her white instructor uniform while training the recruits. In Force, all three are once again in the same unit, but Nanoha and Fate are still wearing their respective white and black uniforms (it's hard to tell about Hayate, but she might be wearing a blue Navy uniform). Perhaps the three of them don't especially care for the color.

* @/AceOfScarabs has considered using that to tie the Nanohaverse to the [[GaoGaiGar GGG-verse]] for the purposes of either budget crossover-fic, or to have an excuse to put them in a mecha-filled ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'' FanGame. To expand on this: a nearly-dead Precia is picked up by a major Zonderian unit and converted, her 'wish' fulfilled by converting both her and the late Alicia into Zonders. As G-Stones, Element Z0, and J-Jewels would be considered pretty powerful Lost Logia in a way, things will unfold, and before you know it, Nanoha and Fate are sent over to the universe next door to investigate, arriving just in time to see GaoGaiGar dispose of a Zonder mecha.

In the original timeline, Hayate and her ''three'' knights were sealed in the Durandal Time Lock, which resulted in Nanoha rebelling against the TSAB and losing her magical staff. She took up swordcraft from her father but, in the battle against the TSAB, got sent back to ancient Velka and was absorbed into the Book of Darkness. When she helped the Knights as Signum, the timeline changed; Hayate's political power changed the TSAB into the ImprobablyFemaleCast. Nanoha/Signum rests easily, immune to paradox, and lets the new Nanoha be none the wiser.

[[WMG: The Book of the Night Sky was corrupted into the Book of Darkness by a Velkan mage.]]
The book is a Lost Logia -- a device that dates back to when [=Al-Hazred=] was still around, which happened long before Midchilda ascended to its current position. Velkan magic is explicitly held to be an offshoot of Midchild magic; Velka was likely a younger "country" -- but the point is that Velka and its magic wasn't around when Alhazred was. The Velkan mage reformatted the Book into a weapon of mass destruction; the reformatting brought it in line with the Velkan style of magic because it was more familiar and more warlike.
* ''Anime/StrikerS'' implies that Lost Logia include artifacts from ''any'' ancient civilisation. ("It was considered a Lost Logia even in the time of ancient Velka".)

Works hand-in-hand with the idea above -- as a Lost Logia, the book clearly predates Velka, the time and place where the through-and-through Velkan Wolkenritter ''must'' originate. The reason for their inclusion at the time of reformat is simple -- the Book has gone from being a repository of magical knowledge into a weapon of mass destruction, and so it and its master require more protection. Also, it needs hunters to gather the Linker Cores necessary to fuel its destructive power. This also handily explains why the Wolkenritter don't know the original name of the Book and why they don't know anything's wrong with the Book -- they ''never'' knew it in its original form.

[[WMG: The Wolkenritter were once humans living in ancient Velka before they were "absorbed" by the Book of Darkness.]]

[[WMG: Agito is Signum's UNISON device from when she was a real person in the age of Ancient Velka.]]

* Support: Nanoha and Hayate got Raising Heart and the Book by luck (or destiny). Fate had her mother's fortune and resources to make Bardiche, or Precia used those to make it for her. Erio's original parents had enough money and illegal connections to create an F-Project "artifical mage" clone of their original son -- getting him Strada while they were at it is only a mild stretch in light of that. Everyone else who has powerful, tailor-made Devices belongs to the military (Chrono, Zest, Subaru's and Lutecia's mothers, Subaru and Teana, etc.) or probably belonged to a military at one point (the Velkan Knight Wolkenritter).

*** Not to mention her parallels with [[spoiler:Reinforce Eins]], in that [[spoiler:she is indirectly harming Touma-in her case, by being a "poison" that kills him by being close to him, and his association with her has resulted in him becoming a criminal to the TSAB]]. Given that [[spoiler:Signum]] is on the case [[spoiler: and has caught up to Touma]], she may have something to say about how familiar the situation seems.

[[WMG: Touma may not have killed all those people on World 18, but he and Lily are indirectly contributing to the problem]]

At this point, Teana and the other investigators seem to be poised to identify Touma as the one responsible for burning down the village, while Touma is currently oblivious to the problems. The truth will most likely not be so simple, and it may be that Lily's very existence is causing the existence of the other Divider(s) and book(s) (similar to Ix serving as the source of the Mariage against her will). Touma, after learning about this, would be forced to decide whether to continue protecting Lily, and may choose to protect her despite the consequences or TakeAThirdOption. This would be an interesting way of exploring what it's like to be one of the {{Anti Villain}}s like the Wolkenritter or Fate who do what they do without knowing that it's wrong or that it may not get them what they want, and this may result in the viewer and Touma not learning the truth until a while after the TSAB learns about it.

In the English dubs, CristinaValenzuela voices Nanoha as well as [[VideoGame/BlazBlue Lamba-11, Noel Vermillion and Nu-13]]. With Teana having learnt [[spoiler: Starlight Breaker]] by the time of ''Sound Stage X'', there's no reason why the master can't learn from the apprentice. Let's face it, GunKata with Divine Busters instead of bullets would be frakkin' sweet. Having her Blaster Bits flying around throwing beams the way Lambda or Nu deliver swords would also be interesting. One hell of an ActorAllusion at that.

* [[SuperRobotWarsAlpha One of Jail's mind-wiped clones will develop white hair due to a random mutation and join the TSAB. He slowly regains Jail's memories over time, but manages to retain his own personality.]]

* @/AceOfScarabs has considered using that to tie the Nanohaverse to the [[GaoGaiGar GGG-verse]] for the purposes of either budget crossover-fic, or to have an excuse to put them in a mecha-filled VideoGame/SuperRobotWars FanGame. To expand on this: a nearly-dead Precia is picked up by a major Zonderian unit and converted, her 'wish' fulfilled by converting both her and the late Alicia into Zonders. As G-Stones, Element Z0, and J-Jewels would be considered pretty powerful Lost Logia in a way, things will unfold, and before you know it, Nanoha and Fate are sent over to the universe next door to investigate, arriving just in time to see GaoGaiGar dispose of a Zonder mecha.

* If the CIA advocates this (if CovertAffairs is anything to go by), then it's plausible the TSAB would do the same, for much the same reasons. You don't have to read anyone more into the projects, you know they won't try to backstab you, and it keeps couples from breaking up because one is MarriedToTheJob.

[[WMG: Precia destroyed the ship carring the Jewel Seeds and the archeologist who discovered them as it passed near a conviently nearby Non-Administered World.]]

** Vivio's GeneticMemory of the Saint King were sealed by Scaglietti to prevent KungFuJesus from his glorified Cradle Battery. Nanoha has decided to keep the seal up so Vivio could live her own life. She'll be told when she becomes 18; and it will be her choice whether to awaken them or not. Incidentally, the "seal" is within Sacred Heart.

Let's do the math: Vita is all {{Tsundere}} over Hayate, Signum has qualifications for {{Kuudere}}, the only one that's left is... Shamal. At the moment, she appears to be a YamatoNadeshiko (well, except the [[LethalChef cooking part]]): polite, soft-spoken, supporting combat role, never objects to orders, etc. Hayate seems to have least concern about her than Vita or Signum. However, ''if'' Shamal ever snaps, this troper wouldn't want to be ''anywhere'' closer than three dimensions away from her.

** Possibly confirmed, in ''NanohaInnocent'' where {{mana}} doesn't exist, she is trained in the family martial arts. Either chi doesn't exist either thus she's just as qualified, or maybe chi use is a case of MutuallyExclusiveMagic; like in ''{{Negima}}''.

** Elio was Magic Cloned when the original died as a baby; so he didn't have any cognizant GeneticMemory.

In the English dubs, CristinaValenzuela voices Nanoha as well as [[BlazBlue Lamba-11, Noel Vermillion and Nu-13]]. With Teana having learnt [[spoiler: Starlight Breaker]] by the time of ''Sound Stage X'', there's no reason why the master can't learn from the apprentice. Let's face it, GunKata with Divine Busters instead of bullets would be frakkin' sweet. Having her Blaster Bits flying around throwing beams the way Lambda or Nu deliver swords would also be interesting. One hell of an ActorAllusion at that.

** Possibly confirmed, in ''NanohaInnocent'' where {{mana}} doesn't exist, she has the family Chi abilities. It seems to be a case of MutuallyExclusiveMagic; like in ''{{Negima}}''.

** Alternate Theory: Shirou's accident resulted in the family spending most of the time at the hospital while Nanoha was growing up. His recovery was gruesome enough that Nanoha was not brought along; leaving her with a lot of time to spend alone to herself. While the Takamachi family still retained some training, this experience also lead them to drop the anti-terrorist careers and concentrate on the bakery. Nanoha was started on the early training, but it ended with the accident; leaving her feeling unfulfilled.

If you know your Creator/HPLovecraft, you will recognise Alhazred as the surname of the Necronomicon's author-apparent. Now, unless that is a mere ContrivedCoincidence, the apparent ShoutOut suggests that... darker things were at work in Al Hazred than the show states. Combine that with the fact that the Jewel Seed beasts have otherworldly, inexplicably wrong forms. Admittedly, the show being idealistic as it is, you will never see these CosmicHorror elements played to the hilt in canon.

Let's do the math: Vita is all {{Tsundere}} over Hayate, Signum has qualifications for {{Kuudere}}, the only one that's left is... Shamal. At the moment, she appears as a perfect YamatoNadeshiko (well, except the [[LethalChef cooking part]]): polite, soft-spoken, stays behind the others, never objects to orders, etc. Hayate seems to have least concern about her than Vita or Signum. However, ''if'' Shamal ever snaps because of that, this troper wouldn't want to be ''anywhere'' closer than three dimensions away from her.
* Hayate seems to spend the second most amount of time with Shamal (behind Vita), often going shopping with her, so there seems to be less likelihood of her feeling left out.

* Hayate only ''allows'' the former administrators think that it was they who disbanded Section Six and effectively exiled the strongest mages from Mid-Childa. In reality, removing her allies from the homeworld was part of an elaborate XanatosGambit allowing her to covertly discredit and destroy the rest of the old government and reintroduce Nanoha, Fate, and the rest of their merry band back to the homeworld as its saviours and protectors from corruption and anarchy. That way, none of them (except Hayate herself, who is regarded as a criminal anyway) would be stained with the dirt of disposing of the former administration from the masses' point of view. Also, temporarily removing Nanoha & Co. from the picture gives her an opportunity to deal with Scaglietti and those of the Numbers who refused to cooperate with her. [[IDidWhatIHadToDo It's sad, but it has to be done to ensure safety of Mid-Childa]]. And Nanoha doesn't have to be involved in it.

...and contains every possible written work in every possible language ever, including {{Shakespeare}} in [[Franchise/StarTrek the original Klingon.]] However, since such a thing would be practically useless, immensely complex spells are used to reduce the possibilities into a large but still limited space.

* Alternatively, they could be a bit like the Servants of FateStayNight as famous heroes of ancient Belkan history who came back with different names (They do seem to have distinct skillsets like the Servants do).

* @/AceOfScarabs has considered using that to tie the Nanohaverse to the [[GaoGaiGar GGG-verse]] for the purposes of either budget crossover-fic, or to have an excuse to put them in a mecha-filled SuperRobotWars FanGame. To expand on this: a nearly-dead Precia is picked up by a major Zonderian unit and converted, her 'wish' fulfilled by converting both her and the late Alicia into Zonders. As G-Stones, Element Z0, and J-Jewels would be considered pretty powerful Lost Logia in a way, things will unfold, and before you know it, Nanoha and Fate are sent over to the universe next door to investigate, arriving just in time to see GaoGaiGar dispose of a Zonder mecha.

The reason this will be done in-story is so Nanoha can continue fighting at optimum levels even as her Magical Power continues to ebb away from DeadlyUpgrade overuse (according to the [[AllThereInTheManual fourth ''StrikerS Sound Stage'']], her actions in the Cradle caused a near permanent drop in her PowerLevel by 10%. She could fix this problem by resting for a year or two, but [[{{Workaholic}} this is Nanoha we're talking about]]), and naturally, everyone would get their own once Nanoha's SuperPrototype run proves successful. The out-of-story and true actual reason why this will be done is so the ''Nanoha'' series could be eligible enough to join the ranks of ''SuperRobotWars''. Considering [[AuthorAppeal the people behind Nanoha]], such a development is inevitable.

If you know your HPLovecraft, you will recognise Alhazred as the surname of the Necronomicon's author-apparent. Now, unless that is a mere ContrivedCoincidence, the apparent ShoutOut suggests that... darker things were at work in Al Hazred than the show states. Combine that with the fact that the Jewel Seed beasts have otherworldly, inexplicably wrong forms. Admittedly, the show being idealistic as it is, you will never see these CosmicHorror elements played to the hilt in canon.

** Bear in mind that this occurred well before the J.S. incident, so at the time, the TSAB wouldn't have had quite the same knowledge of the true might of the White Devil and co. at the time. Also, where does it say that the Wolkenritter are Artificial Mages? I don't recall their origins ever being explained in full... Serious stuff aside, does this make Nanoha [[NeonGenesisEvangelion Rei Ayanami]]? :p

** I was thinking more along the lines of C.C.s' former Geass power in CodeGeass.

* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L-space#L-space This happens to any significantly large magical library.]] Do not be surprised if, whilst perusing the shelves of the Infinite Library, you hear a [[DiscWorld faint "Ook" in the distance]].

* Note that this is only a small annex of the [[{{Sandman}} Library of Dream]], which has every book that was never written, including updated and unabridged versions of books that WERE written.

She did this by teleporting Fate and Arf onto the ship, with orders to capture the Seeds. While attempting to complete their mission, the [[LoadBearingBoss ship was destroyed]] (either by self-destruct or as a [[LightNovel/DirtyPair side effect]] of Fate's power), causing the Jewel Seeds to be lost on Earth. The reason this ship was approaching Earth was because of a report from an observation post on a small island off one of the northern continents of the appearence of a powerful linker core in [[TokyoIsTheCenterOfTheUniverse Japan]]. Following standard procedure a retired member of the [=TSAB=] to recruit this potential high powered mage. Due to the family's previously existing connections with the [=TSAB=] (read below), this pickup operation was not given high priority and the reports have since been lost, [[SequelHook likely to turn up]] during a review of case archives following the [=JS=] Incident. This possibly ties into the above theory of the [=TSAB=]'s use of Earth as a [[RetiredBadass retirement]]/[[TraumaInn recuperation]] area. This also explains Nanoha's parent's [[UnusuallyUninterestingSight ready acceptance]] of her life choices.

* The assumption that familiars can have kids of their own raises the question what Zafira's kids would be, species-wise. Quarter-[[strike:familiar]]Guardian Beast, Quarter-Wolkenritter, half-human? [[TheEpicOfGilgamesh Third-Beast, third-Wolkie, third-human]]?

* Alternatively, what the medics recovered was... [[EldritchAbomination something]] [[DemonicPossession else in Nanoha's form]]. We saw a sign of its GlamourFailure in the infamous "Higurashi eyes", and the supposedly BetterOnDVD "fixing" is a RetCon to prevent us from catching on too quickly. It's biding its time, waiting for the right moment to reveal itself when none can properly oppose it.

This might explain a few things. 1)She already has quite a large number of friends or people who are otherwise fond of her without having to go out and "befriend" anyone Nanoha-style. It doesn't seem as though anyone actively dislikes her (except for Scaglietti and Quattro, albeit regarding her as a tool). Quattro notes that Dieci was a typical ColdSniper before she saw Vivio. 2)The seeming RetCon of Fate wanting to distance herself from being seen as Vivio's other mother (which, I might add, is similar to Nanoha initially considering finding a home for Vivio, rather than adopting her herself, before adopting her) might be due to Fate gradually becoming more and more enamored with Vivio.

[[WMG:The Infinite Library is truly infinite...]]

* For more on infinite libraries, go read [[http://jubal.westnet.com/hyperdiscordia/library_of_babel.html The Library of Babel]] by JorgeLuisBorges.

It's the Chi version of being Psi-Blind. So she got left out of anything other than baking. Hence the students at her family's dojo not fighting around her. It was considered rude. But she was unsatisfied with her life (it's downright howl to the skies depression in TheMovie) because she couldn't kick ass, too. Nobody could have predicted the alien crashlanding with {{Magitek}} that enables her to tap {{Mana}}. This neatly circumvented that and she took to it with gusto. Clearly her family doesn't mind her being a magus as she introduces her subordinates in the [[AudioAdaptation Sound Stages.]]

*** Partially confirmed, so far only in the Movie's tie-in manga series.

[[WMG: There's...something special about Alisa and Suzuka, Nanoha's [[ThoseTwoGirls two Earth friends]].]]

Like her sister in ''{{Triangle Heart 3}}'', Suzuka is a vampire. She shared her blood with Alisa, giving her incredible strength. She did this to prevent her death; appropriately it was whatever killed [[TriangleHeart3 Alisa Lowell.]]

[[WMG: The Wolkenritter were once humans living in ancient Velka before they were "absorbed" by the Book of Darkness.]]

** There a sequel to Betrayers?

So she and Subaru's and Ginga's father just "happened" to find a lab where they rescued Subaru and Ginga, and they just "happened" to be made from Quint's DNA? HaHaHaNo. We know that the [=TSAB=] is really, really [[strike:desperate]] lenient when it comes to repentant scientists and their creations; Subaru's father managed to get Quint to convert; and the [=TSAB=] came up with that rather thin cover story. Quint got to bring her two children with her; as long as she went along with the "we found them" story. This is how the [=TSAB=] knew how to "upgrade" them each year to accomodate aging, Quint gave them instructions.

[[WMG: Precia actually did reach Alhazred.]]

** Or, in keeping with the majority of the villains of Nanoha, Precia makes it to Alhazred and revives Alicia. However, due to her own insanity and the dark weight of the dying world (pictures of Alhazred are not that nice) she treats Alicia just as she did Fate. Which means that Alicia can show up in a future season and be the dragon for whatever BigBad that season has and act as foil to show what Fate would have become without Nanoha's befriending.

It's both convenient for avoiding the locals in non-administrated worlds ''and'' anyone with a lot of magical ability will be automatically drawn towards the PhantomZone. These individuals are then courted into joining the TSAB. It just seems...dang convenient that Admiral Graham was ''also'' a human with magic powers who happened to witness a crash.

** Lio, a civilian student at the Sankt Hilde school, has an apparently Belkan-style device in ''Manga/ViVid''. Then again, we don't know much about her family.

* The assumption that familiars can have kids of their own raises the question what Zafira's kids would be, species-wise. Quarter-[[strike:familiar]]Guardian Beast, Quarter-Wolkenritter, half-human? [[TheEpicOfGilgamesh Third-Beast, third-Wolkie, third-human]]?

** They were left in a room together, at the beginning of A's. They came to a remarkable concurrence of opinion, if you know what I mean.

Chapter 0 ends with "[[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/nanoha-force-ominous-message-to-end-with.jpg We'll be together. Forever and ever.]]" Tell me if that doesn't sound ominous. Fans of potential CListFodder, beware. *eyes [[CoolBigSis Ginga]]*

At some earlier point Hayate decided to put an even stricter limiter on Nanoha in order to prevent her from over using her magic. This limiter restricts Nanoha's magical capabillity to red shirt levels.

She's got the exact same body (possibly with enhanced linker core), and the exact same memories. The movie manga even goes out of its way to point out that she acts the exact same way, indicating that it's the exact same mind all-over. She's Alicia, just with a new body.

Regardless of her and Nanoha saying it's perfectly fine in ''Manga/ViVid'', it doesn't look like she has any involvement in ''Force''. Keep in mind that shapeshifting in the Nanoha-verse is considered very costly, {{mana}}-wise, yet Vivio was able to do it effortlessly.

***** In all of those cases they were dealing with threat on a single planet, as long as the TSAB wages war against individual planets the Church might be sufficient, but it wouldn't be against another organization the size of the TSAB.

*** In the tanks inside his hideout, there are several PeopleJars with Roman Numerals as high as 15. It's possible he had several other Numbers in production.

*** Specifically, Hayate's groping is ''why'' Zafira stays in his wolf form after A's. Apparently, she goes both ways, and with him the only male in easy reach...

**** The world numbers seem to go by their discovery, with Midchildia being World 1.

** Magic in ''Nanoha'' isn't just genetic. Keep in mind, while Fate was a clone of Alicia, the original Alicia didn't have magic. There's a magical variable (such as the spiritual "Linker Core") that is passed down in addition to DNA.

** There's nothing in the rules that says someone's soul can't be reincarnated into their own clone.