History WMG / KingsmanTheSecretService

It is clear from their reaction to Eggsy reciting "Manners Maketh Man" that Deans goons have realized ''exactly'' where he's been for the last few weeks, and that he's capable of wiping the floor with them. Chances are after Eggsy knocked Dean out, the goons just immediately capitulated and gave up on the spot.

[[WMG: So let's start with the obvious: How they'll [[spoiler: bring Colin Firth back for the sequel.]]]]
* [[spoiler: The fangirls are right, Valentine's shot was off the mark, and he's still alive]]

* [[spoiler:They won't and instead will follow the idea of Eggsy meeting Kingsman's American branch.]]

* Harry Hart is a [[Series/DoctorWho Time Lord]], and Colin Firth will return [[spoiler: only for the regeneration sequence.]]
* Harry's glasses are bullet-resistant. [[spoiler:Backed up by the teaser poster for the sequel.]]
** Resistant, but not completely bulletproof. [[spoiler:If that's anything to go by, he ''has'' lost an eye.]] Which frankly, the fangirls predicted, if only because [[spoiler: EyepatchOfPower equals RuleOfCool]].
* [[spoiler: Harry and Merlin figured out before Eggsy did that Chester was a traitor and played a long game to oust him and get close to Valentine to stop him. Unfortunately, that forced Harry to fake his death so Merlin could use Eggsy as the assassin. Why else was Eggsy allowed to see Harry's 'death'? Merlin could have cut the feed at any time.]]
* [[spoiler: Or maybe they'll make him the villain with the codename "Poppy".]]
* Ok, so the short, non spoilery answer is that Statesman has a better budget. [[spoiler: Specifically, they used nanotechnology to heal Harry, at the cost of his eye and some temporary amnesia.]]

They're both bespectacled, working-class ([[spoiler:if Arthur's regression into Cockney during his death scene is anything to go by]]) spies played by Creator/MichaelCaine. And the timelines match up.

What better name for someone who [[spoiler: killed Arthur]]?

Given the efficiency showed by the British branch, it's very unlikely that the American branch didn't notice what Valentine was up to or didn't find his factories. And, after all, [[spoiler:the British branch was corrupted too]].
* If they were in on it though, wouldn't they [[spoiler: have exploded when Merlin activated the implants though?]] Unless you think they were trying to play both sides of the field and had those removed.
** Exactly, some of the compromised ones (I doubt everyone was in on it) might have died. But some might have been genre savvy enough to [[spoiler:remove the implants]].
*** Then what do you think their angle is? [[spoiler: An open or covert takeover of the government since easily most of the chain of command in the US government went kablooey?]]
* Jossed. [[spoiler:Except for Whiskey]]

Two characters named (or at least going by the codename) Arthur, played by Michael Caine [[spoiler: in the role of antagonists]].

[[WMG:[[spoiler:Charlie survived.]]]]
Even though he was shown to be in on Valentine's plan, it's been confirmed that [[spoiler: Edward Holcroft]] will be returning for the sequel. Thus, there's two possibilities:

** Alternate idea: [[spoiler:he was a sleeper agent on Kingsman's side the whole time]]. That, however, basically hinges on [[spoiler: Harry and Merlin figuring out everything ahead of time and playing a long game to oust Chester.]] See above.
* [[spoiler:The second idea is confirmed partially. When Eggsy used his electric signet ring on Charlie, it caused Charlie's implant to malfunction, [[AnArmAndALeg and it blew off his right arm instead]]]].

The sequel is confirmed to feature the 'Statesman', which is an American counterpart of Kingsman, and with what the Kingsman had done in the first film that results in [[spoiler: most, if not all, world leaders killed, not to mention the casualties of people affected by Valentine's HatePlague sim cards]], the Statesman will hold the Kingsman partly responsible for all the chaos that followed. The villain of the sequel will take advantage of the leaderless world to put their plans into motion, and the Statesman and Kingsman will [[EnemyMine have no choice but to work together]] to stop them.

[[NiceJobBreakingItHero The result is...]] [[KillEmAll we]][[NuclearOption ll....]]

** Of course not, don't be absurd. ''The Obsidian Order'' is a Kingsman counterpart.

* Seemingly Jossed, as promotional materials from the sequel refer to him as "Galahad".

* Seemingly Jossed, as promotional materials refer to him as "Galahad".

** Of course not, don't be absurd. ''The Obsidian Order'' is a Kingsman counterpart.

[[WMG: Kingsman has still other branches in other countries]]
* Churchmen, in Rome or the Catholic world in general. They either wear ''even more stylish'' suits (and designer glasses in all probability) or else they dress as priests (the Pope does have an official tailor, for the record; see Gammarelli).
* Salarymen in Japan
* Chairmen in China (is [[UsefulNotes/MaoZedong that in bad taste]]?)
* Dandymen in South Africa; Swenkas in eye-searing brightly colored suits (at least I didn't say Tribesmen).

* Churchmen, in Rome or the Catholic world in general. They either wear ''even flashier'' suits (and designer glasses in all probability) or else they dress as priests (the Pope does have an official tailor, for the record; see Gammarelli).
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* So that means that Garak is a Kingsman counterpart?

[[WMG: [[https://youtu.be/ehNHXNA1e6E?t=33s What really happens after the events of the movie,]] courtesy of [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines]] ]]

[[NuclearOption The result is...]] [[NiceJobBreakingItHero well....]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler: Charlie survived]] ]]

** Alternate idea: [[spoiler: he was a sleeper agent on Kingsman's side the whole time]]. That, however, basically hinges on [[spoiler: Harry and Merlin figuring out everything ahead of time and playing a long game to oust Chester.]] See above.

When the powerful and influential blab all their plans in the midst of a fitting, tailors become the ultimate intelligencers.

[[WMG: The world leaders who were killed by Valentine's SIM cards were [[ComicBook/{{Wanted}} supervillains]] who destroyed all the superheroes and silently took over the world. ]]

[[WMG: The world leaders who were killed by Valentine's SIM cards were [[ComicBook/{{Wanted}} supervillains who took over the world.]] ]]

Unlike the Kingsman, the Statesman will be more into ridiculous stunts than being gentlemany. Not only that, but the plot of ''The Golden Circle'' will deal with the Statesman's [[Film/TheBourneSeries failed attempts at creating better agents as the test subjects have gone rogue]].

So, here's the thing. Valentine maybe dead, but so are all the world leaders. And not to mention the entire world's still in chaos and disarray after the events of the movie. Not only are most civilians affected by Valentine's [[HatePlague Hate Plague's]] currently suffering from [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone the biggest, global epidemic of Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder]] yet, but once again. Most of the world's militaries have lost their leaders as well.

The sequel is confirmed to feature the 'Statesman', which is an American counterpart of Kingsman, and with what the Kingsman had done in the first film that results in [[spoiler: most, if not all, world leaders killed, not to mention the casualties of people affected by Valentine's HatePlague sim cards]], the Statesman will hold the Kingsman partly responsible for all the chaos that followed. The villain of the sequel will take advantage of the leaderless world to put their plans into motion, and the Statesman and Kingsman will [[EnemyMine have no choice but to work together]] to stop them.

** Alternate idea: [[spoiler: he was a sleeper agent on Kingsman's side the whole time]]. That, however, basically hinges on [[spoiler: Harry and Merlin figuring out everything ahead of time and playing a long game to oust Chester.]] See above.