History WMG / HomestuckTrolls

The noise is a vocalization that sounds something like the calls of geese. It's an ability that may have been useful in the troll's ancient ancestry (such as a warning cry or a means of long-distance communication,) but has mostly died out of the modern generations from lack of use. Few remaining trolls can make this noise, but those who can usually choose not to, since it's annoying and doesn't have any practical applications outside of making people uncomfortable with you. (Like humans who can wiggle their ears.) Gamzee, being the resident CloudCuckoolander, continued honking anyway because he thought it was funny, and got into the habit of doing it in place of laughter. So the [[HellIsThatNoise ungodly honking]] that the others hear during his rampage is an audible, vocal noise; possibly the [[LaughingMad insane laughter]] of a highblood on his killing spree.

** Cronus wanted to be [[EntitledToHaveYou treated as he deserved]]. He wound up being treated ''exactly'' [[HumiliationConga that]] [[KickTheSonOfABitch way]].

** It is a past version of the Warhammer, which The Bunny recieves just as it recieves Ahab's Crosshairs- the Warhammer gets transferred to the kids or otherwise makes it into the hands of Jade's grandson, who gives it to teh Bunny, and John takes it off the Bunny.

Trolls used to reproduce in a manner not that dissimilar to Homo sapiens, their human-like sexual dimorphism is a relic of this period and the Mother Grub is a biotechnological intervention. The filial pail is part of this technological innovation as this form of reproduction required considerable alterations to the Troll's own biology in order to work. Due to these modifications, they are almost certainly sterile without the aid of the mother grub by this point. The Lususii are a part of this program of biological alteration and augmentation as well; allowing the trolls to outsource child-rearing as well as childbearing. Most likely, the Imperial Drones are a component as well.\\

* The Bunny is a unique weapon that has basically no way outside of Jack to reach the Troll's session and Gamzee couldn't repair it if he found it anyways.

* The Rogue of Heart was Nepeta, who was already dead by the time the goods came out, and all of the Troll's quest "beds" have been destroyed with Prospit, Derse, and their individual planets. It's just merchandise.

** Still, this trooper believes that the only God Tier trolls we'll be seeing are ones in the Dream Bubbles. Plus, all of the Troll's dream selves have either died, or been used as an extra life.

*** Indeed, that seems downright likely after the second flash of A6I3.

* If Gamzee was trying to hide information on Lord English from Caliborn, A6A6A5 suggests he wasn't successful, and may have actually helped Caliborn see his own future. On the other hand, that doesn't seem to have changed the outcome.

*** However, as the third walkabout in A6I3 notes, it's just a mutation (no matter how much Meenah would like it to be otherwise).

Just calling it before the next update probably makes it obvious. We already know from the A6I3 update that she has been waiting for an opening for his red quadrant even though Latula has had it filled all this time so the only remaining question would be why?

* Relevance neutered by A6I4 revelations.

Somehow, due to the nature of Paradox Space, [=FedoraFreak's=] Tall Pants made its way into the troll's universe.

[[WMG: The Sufferer's Righteous Leggings are [=FedoraFreak's=] Tall Pants]]
Somehow, due to the nature of Paradox Space, [=FedoraFreak's=] Tall Pants made its way into the troll's universe.

[[WMG: The Matriorb Will Be Restored]]
Kanaya will instruct Karkat, the only one of the group with the necessary experience, to appearify a copy of the Matriorb. Because it is destined to be destroyed, it will instead produce a ghost image. After a few more attempts, the appearifier will have enough genetic material to create one or more new Matriorbs.
* For that matter... it looks like she used its code to alchemize a chainsaw. Considering Trollian's transtemporal viewscreen, that code may be recoverable. And we've already seen that there are Alchemiters and probably totem lathes in this asteroid.
** She does have the code still. The grist cost is huge though.
* Looks like it will happen in another manner than predicted. Whether Roxy has or has not manifested a "working" Matriorb, it's clear she's capable of it.

[[WMG: His Honorable Tyranny is still alive]]
Just because Mindfang managed to leave doesn't mean he died. He could have decided to let her leave after a brief sparring. Or after she caused massive damage.
* Irrelevant, given that everyone but the Empress and the Handmaid died from the Vast Glub anyway.

[[WMG: The Rainbow Drinker subculture is a haven of monosexuality.]]
That's how Kanaya is a lesbian. It kind of makes sense, if you don't think about it too hard.
* Given that Porrim--another rainbow drinker--has been said to have slept with nearly ''all'' of her friends, presumably including the male ones, this is likely Jossed.

[[WMG: The Mother Grub creates some type of chemical or psychic signal or something similar that compells trolls born from it to remain loyal to the Empress and caste system.]]
But since the trolls and their ancestors were created by ectobiology instead they're free of that compulsion, which is why most of the ancestors we've learned of so far have been traitors or criminals and why most of the trolls, though too young to do much in the way of rebelling yet, mostly don't seem to care at all about the hemospectrum and why many of them have decidedly untrollish personalities.
Of course, they're also free to buy completely into the status quo, so some of them do.
* Problem with the above, The Summoner and The Sufferer were able to lead rebellions with normal trolls. Unless some of the trolls are able to copy the signals, there's no way it could work.
** There is, if the trolls who followed them were able to overcome their base instincts. Trolls are not exactly disposed toward doing this, if the violent nature of their world is any indication, but that's why the majority of trolls follow the Empire in the first place.

[[WMG: The Mother Grub is not a natural part of the Troll lifecycle]]
Trolls used to reproduce in a manner not that dissimilar to Homo sapiens, their human-like sexual dimorphism is a relic of this period and the Mother Grub is a biotechnological intervention. The filial pail is part of this technological innovation as this form of reproduction required considerable alterations to the Troll's own biology in order to work. Due to these modifications, they are almost certainly sterile without the aid of the mother grub by this point. The Lususii are a part of this program of biological alteration and augmentation as well; allowing the trolls to outsource child-rearing as well as childbearing. Most likely, the Imperial Drones are a component as well.

There are several possible reasons for this change. Amongst others: freeing female trolls from having to bear their young or raise them, increased reproductive efficiency so that the vast hosts needed to conquer and hold their massive interstellar empire could be bred; or purely for reasons of ideology.

Whatever the reason for this, it was done well outside of living memory; likely even before the time of the ancestors.

No matter what advantage this lent the Alternian Empire, it has certainly doomed what remains of it as the trolls are effectively extinct; as of current events/timeline at least.

[[WMG: Every single dead troll/person will somehow get revived, be it the Scratch, The Windy Thing, shenanigans, offshoot timelines, whatever.]]

** the bodycount has decreased by at least one for now. Two if it wasn't a just killing. God damn you Scratch, messing with everyone
*** this troper is kinda lost on what just happened but that it will not matter much in the end because she predicts Vriska, Terezi and Karkat will all die.
*** Confirmed... All events that happened will always happen, regardless of whether or not the timeline is a doomed one. However [[DeathIsCheap death means very little in this series.]]

* What other narrative purpose could there possibly be for Jane's powers? Hussie hasn't shown himself to be a huge fan of ForgottenPhlebotinum so far, so yeah, it seems pretty likely that the new session, when the whole MindControl thing is sorted out, will have all 8 kids and all 24 trolls. And possibly a cherub, depending on how resurrection will work on Calliope.

* Not possible, Rainbow Drinker isn't a thing, it's a description of Kanaya's caste- it can't be transferred, it isn't being undead, it's the caretakers of the Mother Grub being able to regenerate serious injury in order to better serve the Mother Grub. No resurection is possible.

Let's face facts, there are currently 6 dead trolls and of them only Vriska is anywhere close to being a main character. Gamzee will probably end up dying as well. And if we look at the other people, they're all relatively flat characters. Based on Tavros and Dave, they'll enjoy being dead because it seems to be pretty nice actually. However at some point they'll help out the still living players in some fashion, perhaps with the final boss. And they won't really be gone ever because the remaining players will dream in dreambubbles for the rest of their lives presumably.

* His death will purge the earth of the cancer (sin) and his death will allow the kids to win the game and go to paradise - their new universe that they will create.
** Whether or not the Sufferer is literally Jegus is [[http://www.formspring.me/mspadventures/q/226538232941150929 officially inconclusive]].

[[WMG: Doc Scratch [[EvilCannotComprehendGood never accounted]] for the Sufferer]]

* Introducing strange concepts such as equality, compassion and "love that transcends the grid" (note that Doc Scratch seems a little befuddled by the concept), into an otherwise barbaric and bloodthirsty society just might throw a wrench in his and Lord English's plans in the end. While modern trolls have forgotten the Sufferer, it is stated that his teachings have persisted, even if as 'superstition' and largely ignored or not known.

[[WMG: Jadebloods become Rainbow Drinkers through sun exposure.]]
This is why the Dolorosa was forbidden to leave the caverns.
* That actually works pretty well.

[[WMG: Gamzee's 'honks' are produced vocally.]]

[[WMG: Pre-Scratch!Sufferer was asleep when the scratch happened]]
He remembers his alternate timeline because his Dreamself "survived" the process and merged with his Post-Scratch!Alternia self. Since he was the leader, we could extrapolate that his companions put him to sleep (possibly against his will) hoping this would happen.
* Jossed by Meenah's flashback ''and'' his title.

The end of act 5 has turned much of what we know about ascending on its head. Perhaps a player only needs one self to be alive and it doesn't matter which one. Additionally, the new hoodies in the store imply that at least one hero of Mind and Heart are going to ascend, and since there will be hoodies of all the different God Tiers eventually, perhaps one of each role will ascend. Four of them could belong to post-Scratch players, assuming the human session still has four players in the post-Scratch universe, but that still leaves four more God Tiers. Maybe Karkat, Terezi, Gamzee and Kanaya can still ascend.

*** Indeed, that seems downright likely after the second flash of A6I3 (see below).

** IIRC, it was hinted that there are other ways to reach god tier, but none have been mentioned yet...

[[WMG: Not every Troll will reach God Tier, but every Troll will reach some higher state]]
Along the lines of Kanaya becoming a Rainbow Drinker and Sollux being between life and death. The avenues to God Tier seem to be closed off to the remaining Trolls now, but they may have other destinies.

She's about to help slow Jack down for everybody trying to outrun him, and he is going to kill her. It will be considered 'heroic' because her death will help to buy her friends necessary time.

* Given a certain definition of 'resurrect', [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006734 the April 18 update]] confirms this for Vriska...and Tavros.

[[WMG: Some of the pre-scratch Trolls survived, much like the pre-scratch human players have]]
And they are also, secretly, on their way to the post-scratch Human Session, having somehow figured out that its where they need to be. They will first appear in a BigDamnHeroes moment that may or may not fail miserably due to lack of combat prowess.
* As a corollary, UU might ''be'' one of these Pre-Scratch Trolls.
* The Summoner's odd "mutation" seems very suspicious considering the traits trolls acquire when they reach God Tier.
** Did you mean the Signless/Sufferer's mutation? I don't think Tavros' ancestor was ever mentioned as having a mutation.
** His wings. The Summoner has wings.
*** However, as the third walkabout in A6I3 notes, it's just a mutation (no matter how much Meenah would like it to be otherwise).
* They "survived" in a way, because Meenah killed them all so they'd become ghosts instead of going God Tier. Everything else is still up in the air.

* I thought class mechanics worked the other way around- passive classes enhance the group with their powers while active classes benefit from their powers themselves.

[[WMG: Zillyhoo is the top Subjugglator]]
This one took a bit of thinking for me to figure out. The Warhammer of Zillyhoo is one of the end-game weapons, right? So why would both John and Gamzee both be able to wield it? Simple, really. Zillyhoo is an 8-letter name, similar to (most of) the rest of the trolls' ancestors. He was also the Grand Highblood (9 letters, does not fit with theme). So it would only make sense that both the standard wielder of hammerkind strife specibi (John) and his Descendant (Gamzee) would be able to equip it! ...Also the bunny, but it can use everything.
* If you're using Hammerkind to explain John, then Jokerkind explains Gamzee.

[[WMG: Trolls don't have human style reproductive organs.]]
The reproduce through sweat. That sweat is collected into buckets and then taken to the Mother Grub. An example of this is seen in Equius who sweats whenever he's aroused.
* All we know is that uu has no idea what a boner is.
** And apparently finds things pornographic that we would consider incredibly tame.
** All of which is irrelevant since uu & UU are a cherubs, not trolls.
* Either way, it's pretty obvious that they're different, and it's equally obvious that Hussie will never explain exactly how they work.
* Alternatively, trolls reproduce by bleeding.

[[WMG: Keeping with the Sburb/Sims theme, trolls reproduce the same way Sims in the original game did: by kissing a lot.]]
This would explain why uu found the incredibly tame things he asked Dirk to draw so pornographic.
* See last entry: What bothers uu is irrelevant to trolls since he isn't one. (And it turns out that it's redrom he finds so perverted since his species only knows hate-based lust.)

* Sorta confirmed: John made ''himself'' the third option by punching out Vriska.

[[WMG: The Dead Libra troll, if one exists, will have rounded shades like Dave.]]

* Jossed, they are square.

[[WMG: The Unknown Dead Trolls were the "friends" Dream Jade made in the afterlife]]

In case any others show up (Pre-scratch Sufferer will likely), I've been looking for zodiac names that fit the 6-letter formula. Feel free to add more.

* Partially Jossed, we still don't know Nitram's or Zahhak's names. So far 0 for 10, though.
** And now 0 for 12. This WMG would have had better luck going with the "reused suggestions" route.

Aranea has already stated that in life, she wished she could be more adventurous, and exciting. That turned her into Vriska in the Post-Scratch session. All of the Post-Scratch trolls' personalities are due to the desires of the Pre-Scratch Trolls. My guesses so far, feel free to add your own!

* Tavros: Remember how everyone thought Tavros would be a huge jerk when he was first shown? The pre-scratch Tavros had that personality, and just wanted to be nicer and incapable of hate.

* One problem with this: Aranea's Scratched and Idealized version isn't Vriska, but rather Mindfang. It isn't the Scratched Troll Kids who are idealized versions of the pre-scratched versions, but rather the Ancestors. For instance, I'd bet dollars to donuts that pre-scratch Sufferer was actually similar to Karkat but wished he could be nicer, creating the post-scratch messianic figure he was right up to the end.
** Don't know about you, but I can certainly picture [[{{Jerkass}} Meenah]] wishing she could be [[EvilOverlord Her]] [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Imperious Condescension]]. From what we know some of the ancestors became, we can probably hazard a guess for others, though it could potentially be {{Jossed}} at any time.
*** The Handmaid: Likely desired to escape mortality and have a more visible effect on the world around her, ended up getting her wish [[WhoWantsToLiveForever in a less-than-desirable manner]]
*** The Summoner: ?
*** The Helmsman: ?
*** The Sufferer: May have been much like Karkat but wished that he could be nicer, which on the near-Utopian pre-Scratch world could help him fit in.
*** The sufferer has been adressed. He's basically a guy who likes to talk about social problems, and I mean talk and talk and talk. It's not unreasonable to assume he wished he had some real injustice to fight. Though it bears noting he is aware of his post-scratch counterpart's deeds, and disagrees with his methods.
*** The Disciple: ?
*** The Dolorosa: Perhaps she wanted to care for a child troll?
*** Porrim seems to have wanted to care for Kankri specifically.
*** Neophyte Redglare: Desired to be a force for justice.
*** Marquise Spinneret Mindfang: Aranea admitted what she wanted to be.
*** E%ecutor Darkleer: Possibly wanted to be a merciful leader.
*** The Grand Highblood: Wanted a life of mirth, that would keep him laughing joyfully.
*** Orphaner Dualscar: Desired a powerful rival who would be a WorthyOpponent to him. There's some possibility that he had a caliginous crush on Aranea even before the Scratch, too...
*** Her Imperious Condescension: As previously stated, one can definitely see Meenah wanting to be a leader, and her troublesome, likely self-centered nature making her about [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen the last person you'd want ruling you]].

--> [[color:#929292:UU: for instance, a hero of life and a hero of doom have aspects as different as can be.]]
--> [[color:#929292:UU: bUt if their classes are different enoUgh as well, that is, one active and the other passive, remarkably there is a chance they coUld end Up with very similar abilities!]]

[[WMG:Sopor Slime is made from the blood (or other parts) of limeblooded trolls]]

[[WMG:Gamzee redacted large amounts of information from Rose's Chronicle to prevent ''Caliborn'', not Calliope, from gaining information on Lord English (the former's future self).]]
Think about it. If Caliborn knew about the information hidden in the tome, he would be able to use it to his advantage.
Gamzee recognized that he ultimately served as a pawn for his "Mirthful Messiahs" when Doc Scratch told him that the players all fell into his trap, even after renouncing his religion. Since he knew he had some role in setting the trap up to begin with, he decided to sabotage events in the future in order to buy everyone else that much more time to put a stop to the Demon's plots.
* His encounter(s) with Kurloz, who's embraced his religion's nature, makes this much less likely, though it could still be true pending other [=WMGs=] below. I think it's just as likely that the information was redacted by Lord English himself.
* Keep in mind that in the encounter with Kurloz that we saw, the only thing he said was something along the lines of "shut the fuck up and give me the codpiece".
* If Gamzee was trying to hide information on Lord English from Caliborn, A6A6A5 suggests he wasn't successful, and may have actually helped Caliborn see his own future. On the other hand, that doesn't seem to have changed the outcome.

[[WMG: The King In Red(an unfinished Karkat's Theme remix) was gonna be used for him going God Tier...]]
...But since it was never finished, they cut God Tier Karkat from happening, only allowing him to appear in a dream bubble from a doomed timeline.
* Jossed by Andrew's previous statements. Music team knows nothing of canonical spoilers, not even Radiation. The only people who get spoilers are the art team, and they are always ''extremely'' narrow apparently. For example in Cascade, the artist who designed Jade's god tier spoke back and forth with Andrew but wasn't privy to details about other parts of the flash. This is why each section has a slight ArtShift.

[[WMG: Gamzee's gonna fight Nepeta in a dream bubble...]]
...And she will be PISSED OFF. She'll probably lose(whether or not she really fought Gamzee the first time is unknown, since she only scratched him indirectly), but Gamzee will freak out.

[[WMG: Meulin's Class will be the Mage class.]]
I think it's the only class that could possibly be unisex because all female classes have been taken and Page,Bard,Prince,and Heir are all male classes. Knight has already been assigned to Latula which made what seemed like a male exclusive class become unisex. Seer has also been revealed to be unisex because of Kankri. Mages outside of homestuck are usually female, but in the Homestuck universe Sollux is currently the only known Mage. Meulin couldn't be a Rogue becuase Nepeta is already the MarsRogue of Heart.
* Confirmed.

[[WMG: Gamzee is going to betray Kurloz]]
His moirallegiance with Karkat stopped his murderous rampage before. When push comes to shove, he'll sabotage Kurloz's efforts for Karkat's sake, which will prove instrumental in Caliborn's defeat.

[[WMG: Tavros's ancestor will be an InternetJerk, only not on the internet]]

** Borderline jossed.

[[WMG: The 'Mirthful Messiah' that Gamzee and Kurloz are conspiring with isn't who you think it is.]]

With that said, Gamzee and Kurloz are actually conspiring not to help Lord English, but to get close enough to him to set Calliope free, as it was alluded to earlier in the story that the only way to disable Lord English was to [[SayMyName say her name in his presence.]] That's why they are keeping their movements a secret from everybody whilst maintaining the guise of being psychopathic clowns - they're making sure nobody, especially not Lord English, is aware of this.

[[WMG: Terezi wouldn't show her face to Karkat because she's dead, perhaps having been {{Driven To Suicide}}.]]
All ghosts in Homestuck are shown to have milky white eyes. If Terezi had died, it stands to reason that her eyes would be white as well. It's possible that something unseen happened to her, possibly between her and Dave, and that Terezi wound up killing herself as a result--if this were the case, it makes sense that she'd be reluctant to let her possible former matesprit, Karkat, find out. It would also give a bigger reason for her moping around in the dreambubbles--she felt guilty about her suicide.
* But her eyes won't show behind her red glasses anyway...
* Jossed.

[[WMG: Eridan was actually asexual and overcompensating.]]
His behaviour comes across less as actual desire and more as trying to shove himself into a relationship for the sake of being normal (and, pre-SGrub, not being culled). With Alternian culture the way it is, he never had an opportunity to find out what asexuality is. He pursued Feferi because she was there, couldn't grasp why she would prefer Sollux over him since he's never experienced love/pity, and assumed she was trying to get him killed or shame him as opposed to simply not being interested, hence why he got so angry. Explored in more detail in [[http://homesmut.livejournal.com/15023.html?thread=30430639 these]] [[http://archiveofourown.org/works/371543 fics]].
** There's another fan theory that Cronus is pansexual non-romantic. Tying this in to the theory elsewhere on the page that the Scratch gives the players warped versions of the lives they thought they wanted, it's possible that Cronus is so and Dualscar wasn't. Dualscar's romantic feelings only served to make things worse for him.

[[WMG: Karkat Vantas...]]
Has tourettes syndrome. Think about it. He cusses randomly out of nowhere, and he seems to be screaming, but that might just be his typing style.

* Karkat doesn't cuss and scream randomly out of nowhere. He cusses and screams because he is very, very angry about everything, all the time. That ain't Tourette's.

[[WMG:The Tavros we've been seeing from the 10/11/12 update onward...]]
...is actually Andrew Hussie in disguise.
* Jossed.

[[WMG:Tavros and Vriska will accidentally help Lord English]]
The two of them met thanks to the bizarre actions of Gamzee, who is working for Lord English. This suggests that whatever they are doing (hunting for a GameBreaker treasure) is something ''he'' wants done. After all, their quest is motivated by Vriska's belief that what they really need to beat Lord English is a quick fix cheat of some sort, and we all know how well that's worked out for her in the past.
* Tavros' inner monologue used Gamzee's typing quirk in a recent update.
** That's just him being really bad at whispering...

[[WMG:Gamzee is not God Tier, but he and Kurloz ''think'' he is.]]
Kurloz seems to put a lot of importance on putting together what is probably Gamzee's God Tier outfit, perhaps out of the belief that the outfit is what gives the powers. They will be proved wrong in the most hilariously ''Problem Sleuth''-esque way possible. "Of course you aren't God Tier just because you happen to be wearing the outfit. You're not sure why you ever would have thought otherwise."
* What about the wings?
** Part of the outfit.
*** Take another look. He doesn't have wings.
*** This part of the theory is confirmed when one of his wings falls off as Caliborn shoots him. You can clearly see the strap. However, it remains to be seen as to whether he's survived the attack.
*** He survived, but not for god tier reasons.
[[WMG: The Pre-Scratch trolls actually ''are'' fantrolls.]]
One day someone created a bunch of bad fantrolls and wished on a star that they could become real. So the Author Fairy came down ([[{{Crossdresser}} in a dress]]) and waved his magic wand, thus making them canon.

[[WMG: Tavros isn't trying to propose to Vriska. At least, not in the sense we might be thinking of.]]
He's encountered the idea of human matrimony twice before. Once was during his feeble attempt to troll Dave, when Dave mentioned it before he verbally tore him to shreds and sent him packing. The second was with Hussie stalking/proposing to Vriska, to which she reacted with revulsion and repeated attempts to avoid him. Taking into account his passive-aggressiveness, such as when he dumped the maps on the ground rather than giving them to her, he doesn't want to marry her. He wants to make her go away.

[[WMG: Gamzee is a juju.]]
Think about it. Here is what we know about jujus so far;
* They exist only to make their universe's inhabitants as miserable as possible by making their lives a living hell. Gamzee has the ability to alter reality and create nightmares in someone's mind. He's the entire reason Cal exists.
* There can only ever be one of them. For example, this is why every Lil' Cal but one has fallen some kind of horrid fate that results in its destruction. If Gamzee were a juju, this would explain why no other version of him has been seen; they've all been destroyed or otherwise erased from existence.
Gamzee being a juju would explain a lot about him.

[[WMG: The wings really ARE part of the outfit, and thus Gamzee isn't dead.]]
He survived being kicked off a cliff by Kanaya and launched by a massive explosion. I think Gamzee is gonna take more than that to kill.
* Partially confirmed, though the reasoning for his survival is still ambiguous. Either it's because he's a clown, or he's God Tier.

[[WMG: That's not what the Bard God Tier outfit usually looks like.]]
The other God Tier outfits are at least marginally more dignified. Gamzee either threw something together himself if he's not God Tier or modified the provided outfit magically if he is, just to make everyone assume he's stupid and harmless again.
* Jossed, as it's the same outfit that God Tier Cronus wears, of the same colors as God Tier Kurloz.

[[WMG: Gamzee is FTM.]]
There actually isn't anything external behind that codpiece, he just got it to distract the eye now he's old enough to grow unwanted boobs.

[[WMG:All Patron Trolls are destined to fall in love with their respective kids]]
Vriska loves John, Terezi loves Dave, Kanaya loves Rose, and Karkat has ship teases with Jade. Hmmm...

[[WMG:Dream Gamzee is still alive]]
Gamzee never dies because of his clown immortality, and that extends to his Dream Self. Dream Gamzee is still flying around the troll's session, doing who-knows-what. He may be gathering up the leftovers from Jack's rampage for something. (Maybe he's collecting the remnants of their worlds and the moons, to try and piece their quest beds back together?)

[[WMG: Terezi is spying on Gamzee and is not really on his side. Also there's something about the eyes thing here.]]
We know Terezi's ancestor Redglare was secretly a follower of the Signless, a fact that hasn't ever come up again. She also worked for Gamzee's ancestor the Grand Highblood, so it would make sense if Terezi was secretly spying on him. Terezi is hiding her eyes for some reason, and there was for a time a theory that she was dead, but now we know she's not. In addition, Meulin doesn't have the flashy-color-eyes thing all the time, so it's probably not hiding mind control. This is actually because she's taken Aranea's offer at some point and is no longer blind, breaking the 'hear no evil, speak no evil, see no evil' pattern that would be apparent if she was not a spy, following the line of Kurloz and Meulin.

The most telling piece of evidence, though, comes from a pun on her name: Spyrope. Dragon pun, right there.
* She did take Aranea's offer, but she probably isn't spying on Gamzee. If anything, she's tormented by her feelings for him.
[[WMG: Sollux is naturally attracted to scary people.]]
He liked Aradia (who is fascinated by death), his most recent girlfriend was Feferi (who is kind of crazy, likes and was raised by {{Eldritch Abomination}}s) and has a red and black thing for Gamzee ([[MonsterClown self]] [[AxCrazy explanatory]]).

[[WMG: The mass genocide of the limebloods was actually instigated by Lord English/Scratch.]]
Simply because Calliope had similarily colored blood. Limebloods being a threat to the authorities was only a cover-up, or something.

[[WMG: The Sufferer wasn't a troll version of Jesus...]]
He was a troll version of UsefulNotes/VladimirLenin.
* Both men were known to be charismatic leaders and great orators.
* Both men were revolutionaries interested in overthrowing a class-based society.
* Both men supported the lower and working classes.
* Both men were ''despised'' by the local authorities.
* The Sufferer had candy-red blood; Communism is associated with the colour red.
* Karkat's weapon is a sickle, one of the symbols of the Soviet Union.
* On a more tongue-in-cheek note, [[IncrediblyLamePun this would make him]] [[RussianGuySuffersMost Russian.]]
Any Jesus parallels that can't apply to any revolutionary leader? Chalk it up to in-universe HistoricalHeroUpgrade (note that Lenin was also subject to a great degree of hero worship in the Soviet Union).

[[WMG: Kanaya will go MamaBear on Jane for stabbing Karkat.]]
Just like the Dolorosa on John, only with more blood. ''HISS!''
* Jossed...for now.

[[WMG: Meenah and her Ghost Army will be used to defeat The Condesce]]
Meenah has shown in the past that she has more morals than her post-scratch counterpart, if only regarding specific individuals that she cares about and The Condesce does not, is inevitably going to become involved, and has stated that she cannot control herself regarding seething hatred of any other Royal Trolls - potentially including her alternate self.

[[WMG: Tinkerbulls were [[FluffyTheTerrible the most dangerous species on Alternia]].]]
This is how Tavros survived growing up as TheWoobie on a death world, and why Jake was so terrified when they tried to express affection to him.

[[WMG: Gamzee has the power that John has - and both are "unstuck" in canon.]]
Think about it - he has a tendency to show up and watch (or even interfere with) events in many situations, and then completely disappear. It's been established that there are no instances of a dead Gamzee in any timeline, and that Gamzee can even leave one session to enter another dimension (as he did with raising Calliope/Caliborn). ''What if Gamzee has been manipulating the fabric of Paradox Space itself?''

[[WMG: Gamzee's actions to ensure Lord English's rise follow the same logic that led Vriska to ensure that the players would have to deal with Bec Noir]]
Since Lord English has clearly been influencing events already, trying to subvert his existence would simply create a doomed timeline, which would probably just be useless. So he figures he may as well make sure what needs to happen happens and may or may not be planning to turn on him later. Basically, how can you prevent English's existence WHEN HE IS ALREADY HERE!?

What any of this has to do with screwing with Terezi and donning fake God Tier garb I have no idea.

[[WMG: Kanaya will take up Jade's sword.]]
Kanaya will fall asleep and wake up in a dreambubble where she'll meet [[CuteGhostGirl Jade's ghost]]. Jade will tell her where her quest bed on LOFAF is and instruct Kanaya to die on it. Kanaya will do as instructed and ascend as a fully realized Sylph of Space. And I for one ''seriously'' hope she kills [[FauxAffablyEvil Aranea]] afterward.

[[WMG: Gamzee was created for the sole purpose of unleashing or aiding in the unleashing of [[BigBad Lord English]].]]
If you think about it, it makes sense. He has never died in ANY of the timelines. Why is that? Because Lord English created him, and he is basically made to be a durable tool. The only reason he didn't start sooner is because he was stoned on soper slime (and even then it seems he may have underlying loyalty to his masters. Mirthful Messiahs anyone?), and while he did use the term "lowblood", he never specifies that the blood COLOR makes them low. His default purpose was activated, and he went on a killing spree. Karkat is able to become his moirail and keep him pacified and realize that he ultimately did care for his friends. But through one way or another (maybe he went to "factory default") he slowly sunk back to his purpose. More evidence to this fact is after he left, we have seen very little emotion from him aside from complete dogged loyalty to CALIBORN, who is the spawn of Lord English, and a refusal to accept rejection.

[[WMG: Terezi will blind Gamzee.]]
Poetic justice at work.

[[WMG: Gamzee will kill Aranea.]]
A man can dream...

[[WMG: Gamzee has been overtaken by Rage.]]
No, not the emotion, the Aspect itself. Hear me out. John's aspect seems to give him control of The Breeze. It looks as though, according to Jack Noir, the Breeze is protecting him in some way, having a sort of will of its own. Why can't Rage be the same way??? Except worse? What I think is, when Gamzee channeled his Rage in his attacks, the more he channeled, the more it took hold of him. He was consumed to the point of wanting to end the universe, by joining Caliborn, and now it seems like their is very little of him left (and the mind control didn't help) based on his brief moment of clarity (or was it?) with Terezi. If it was an act, it's likely he is Pure Rage at this point.

[[WMG: Gamzee has no motive, and is just doing what he does for [[ItAmusedMe shits and giggles.]]]]
And it will be in a big moment, someone asking "Why are you doing this", and Gamzee just says [[TheUntwist "Because why not"]] or something of the sort.

[[WMG: Tavros ''was'' emotionally capable of saving Vriska from bleeding to death, but he chose not to.]]
* It's not that big a leap. He wasn't quite spiteful enough (or brave enough) to actively attack her when she was at normal strength, but her injuries gave him an opportunity to get revenge. On at least a subconscious level, he ''wanted'' Vriska to feel pain like he had when she broke his legs.

[[WMG: Eridan Ampora is actually Netherlands from Webcomic/HetaliaAxisPowers]]
He looks suspiciously similar to Neth. Also, the scarf, coat and hair. he looks exactly like a troll version of him if you take off his glasses!
* I... cannot unsee this.

[[WMG: Tavros will come back to life and arrive on LOFAF]]
When Tavros decided he'd had enough of Vriska and actually showed a massive amount of spine, he did the one thing that ''none'' of the pre-scratch trolls did despite being in the Dream Bubbles for countless sweeps, he developed as a person. Coupled with the fact that he then flew off unaided which he could never do before he could possibly be on his way back to the waking world.

[[WMG: Vriska will come back to life and help everyone]]
Sooner or later, Aranea will either go to sleep or be knocked unconscious. At this moment Vriska and Meenah will tag-team her in a dreambubble, working together as Thieves (come on, they have a common Title, this has to be relevant somehow), and Vriska will take the ring (because Meenah explicitly doesn't want to). She will take control of Gamzee, subdue him somehow, then find Roxy and give her the ring, willingly surrendering her narrative importance and going back to Meenah and pissed-off Aranea. Roxy will go to sleep, find Calliope, give her the ring, and then there will be rainbows, puppies and party baloons because why the hell not.

Well, it will probably be more complicated than that, seeing how this plan ignores Her Imperious Condescension who's likely to have her own plans for all involved, but the core points are: Vriska&Meenah steal the ring from Aranea when she's next in the dreambubble, Vriska takes it and comes back to life, and then after some events willingly gives the ring away because that's what she planned to do from the start.
* Well, John took the ring before Aranea ever had the chance to take it, then brought Vriska back to life with retcon shenanigans, and her presence ended up solving a lot of everyone's problems.

It's also poasible that the reason she refuses to speak English stems at least partly from her former association with Rufioh. Think about it--she's said to have settled with the Lost Weeaboos after leaving East Beforus, so it's quite possible that she learned English from him, and that speaking it brings back memories she'd rather suppress.

[[WMG: Eridan will somehow come back to life and kill Gamzee.]]
Mindfang killed Redglare, Terezi kills Vriska. The Summoner killed Mindfang, Vriska kills Tavros. Orphaner Dualscar killed The Dolorosa, Kanaya kills Eridan. Who killed Orphaner Dualscar? The GHB did. So Eridan will kill Gamzee.

[[WMG: The Condesce will unleash Pyralspite on the players, and its gaze will re-blind Terezi.]]
This will undo the damage Aranea did to her psyche and give her the possibility of regaining happiness. Not to mention that if they can take out the Condesce or disable her bronzeblood powers without killing Pyralspite, it will mean that she actually gets to meet her lusus (or at least her ancestor's lusus).

[[WMG: His Honorable Tyranny is just a really big Imperial Drone type produced by the Mother Grub the same way other Imperial Drones are.]] It would explain the unique black blood and why it looks like a drone. It's not a troll or lusus and therefore has no hemospectrum obligations. It serves a different purpose, hence why it is presiding over a court instead of pails-or-death.

[[WMG: Gamzee is also a reincarnated Black King from some long-ago session.]]
His attack on the Black King including mimicking his part in Rex Duodecim Angelus is because he feels like he should be the final boss, instead of a random dersite with a scepter. This may also explain his attacks on fellow trolls after going insane.

[[WMG: The trolls are a genetically engineered race.]]
It would account for so much. For example, why would the trolls have two sexes/genders when there is no logical reason for gender or sex to exist due to the fact that reproduction has nothing to do with biological sex. Also, there is no way that an entire species could coevolve so closely with the Mother Grub, to the point that it/she gives birth to every troll child. There is no evolutionary reason for the hemospectrum to exist, either, so far as I can tell. And only a small group being amphibious is almost biologically impossible. So, the answer must be that a long time ago, somebody genetically engineered the trolls to be like that.
* That would explain the Imperial Drone's existence as well.

[[WMG: Assorted troll reproductive ideas]]
* Theory 1: The “fluids” trolls provide to the pails are gamete-rich slurries analogous to human semen, but produced by both sexes. In the pails, the gametes impregnate each other, producing an embryonic soup. This are the “pre-mixed fluids” the Mother Grub requires. Most of the embryos produced die in the buckets or in the Mother Grub, but some grow all the way into wigglers.
* Theory 2: When a troll is experiencing strong flushed and/or calignous emotions, it triggers the release of hormones that stimulate gamete production. Thus, the stronger a troll’s matespiritship and kissmessitude, the more gametes he/she produces. More gametes means more embryos, and eventually more wigglers, with his/her genetics. This is why strong pairings produce dominant genetics.
* Theory 3: Female trolls possess an organ something like the human uterus, and this is where the fluids were mixed before they came up with the idea of using buckets for that purpose. This explains why trolls have two sexes: They used to reproduce via heterosexual sex like humans do, but they haven't done so in a really long time and have forgotten why they have sexes.

[[WMG: Vriska's apparent AesopAmnesia is part of her plan]]
I imagine it will go like this: love will make (Vriska) (provided she hasn't been blown up by English) go back, realizing that she has to go back to Meenah. Vriska will reveal that she knew her past self would do that and drove a wedge between them for that exact purpose. I'm not sure what would happen next, but my favorite possibility is that Vriska and (Vriska) will fuse together, becoming a sort of "Vriska^2".

[[WMG: [[Main/BackForTheFinale Aradia will return]] for the final battle in Act 7]]
The clue is there in her name: Megido is derived from "Megiddo", which in Christian mythology is the name of the battlefield upon which the final battle of Revelations will be fought (and the source of the modern word "armageddon"). When better for Aradia to reappear than the final battle of Homestuck?
* Semi-confirmed. Aradia returns in the End of Act 6 and does indeed help Meenah and Tavros fight English. While she also appears in the last stand animation in Act 7, she doesn't do anything there besides watch Calliope destroy the Green Sun.

[[WMG: Karkat's Knight of Blood title means he can control people's bloodlust]]
Which is how he's able to calm Gamzee and keep his RagtagBunchOfMisfits together for so long.
* That would seemingly fall under the dominion of Rage.
** However, the role of Classes can make Aspects do unexpected thing, so this theory could still apply.

[[WMG: The Sufferer's Righteous Leggings are FedoraFreak's Tall Pants]]
Somehow, due to the nature of Paradox Space, FedoraFreak's Tall Pants made its way into the troll's universe.

There is a reason why Kanaya was groomed to be a Rainbow Drinker, and why she has been drinking the various bloods of friend and foe alike. That reason? She's a failsafe in case something happened to the Matriorb. She's collecting the fluids in a similar way the Mother Grub collects them - to mix together and recreate new trolls from the slurry. How she does so is still anyone's guess, but there must be a reason to her methods.

*** Orphaner Dualscar: Desired a powerful rival who would be a WorthyOpponent to him. There's some possibility that he had a [[FoeYay caliginous crush]] on Aranea even before the Scratch, too...

[[WMG: Damara is a {{Troper}}]]

[[WMG: Eridan was actually {{Asexual}} and overcompensating.]]

* The problem that I see with this theory is that Bec Noir isn't a primary antagonist anymore, God Tier kids can tag-team him easily, as John has shown, and that's even without Jade's intervention and not counting PM. Gamzee/Cal are proving to be key to the main plot - rise and fall of [[BiggerBad Lord English]], there's no need for additional complication here.

[[WMG: Tavros's ancestor will be an InternetToughGuy, only not on the internet]]

[[WMG: Eridan Ampora is actually Netherlands from Webcomic/AxisPowersHetalia]]

-->'''Aranea:''' [[Disney/TheLionKing Ah, my friends!]]
-->'''Meenah:''' Friends? I thought you were just ''using'' us!
-->'''Vriska:''' That's what I remember!
-->'''Both:''' Aradia?
-->'''Aradia:''' (''slowly gains a SlasherSmile as they all prepare to gang up on her, brandishing their fists'')
-->'''Aranea:''' [[OhCrap Oh no...]]please, let me explain! No, you don't understand! I didn't mean to--No! Please! NO! AHHHHH! (''they all gang up on her and beat the living daylights out of her'')

* Judging by Meenah's interaction with her friends in the bubbles, she was an actual ''friend'' for most of them - for those of them who had friends at all, to be precise. She appears to know them pretty well, and judging by her interaction with Mituna, Horuss and Eridan's-loser-ancestor, she really cares. Kankri's intervention in all these cases served to contrast his uncaring and impersonal "right" with Meenah's [[JerkWithTheHeartOfGold outwardly jerkish but personal and caring attitude]].

[[WMG: [[Main/BackForTheFinale Aradia will return for Act 7 / Act 6 Act 6 Act 6]]]]

[[WMG: Aradia will return for Act 7 / Act 6 Act 6 Act 6]]

* Theory 3: Female trolls possess an organ something like the human uterus, and this is where the fluids were mixed before they came up with the idea of using buckets for that purpose.

Not only did the Condesce turn her back into a ghost, but said ghost dropped into a lake of fire and incinerated afterward. Since (Vriska) has shown us that dreamghosts are unaffected by cosmic retcons, it seems likely that Aranea's [[DeaderThanDead gone for good]].