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Old Shame is now an In Universe only trope. Out Of Universe example goes to Creator Backlash and that trope requires a source that the author expresses regret of their past work.


* OldShame: [[https://youtu.be/CN20nVDLkQM?t=85 This bit]] from a 2013 stand up tells us ''exactly'' how Creator/JayBaruchel feels about the film.
-->'''Jay's Conscience:''' Hey, I'm just trying to help you.\\
'''Jay:''' Well I don't need your help!\\
'''Jay's Conscience:''' Really? Who told you to write ''Film/{{Goon|2011}}''?\\
'''Jay:''' You did.\\
'''Jay's Conscience:''' Who told you to make ''Film/ThisIsTheEnd''?\\
'''Jay:''' You did.\\
'''Jay's Conscience:''' And who told you ''not'' to do ''The Sorcerer's Apprentice''?\\
'''Jay:''' Hey! Hey, fuck you! [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff That movie made more money in Italy]]!



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: An earlier draft included an appearance by Chernabog himself in the climactic battle, though he'll be in the sequel [[DevelopmentHell if they get the chance]].

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'''Jay's Conscience:''' Really? Who told you to write ''Film/{{Goon}}''?\\

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'''Jay's Conscience:''' Really? Who told you to write ''Film/{{Goon}}''?\\''Film/{{Goon|2011}}''?\\
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** Initial plans for the movies would have made Veronica, a former Morganian played by Creator/MonicaBellucci, who had a HeelFaceTurn.

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* ActorAllusion: This isn't the only time Creator/JayBaruchel plays a [[Film/ShesOutOfMyLeague character that ends]] [[WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon his respective movie by flying away]].
** Or shoots plasma blasts.
** The scene where Dave tries to steal the doll back is a homage to the opening scene of ''Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk''. Then Creator/AlfredMolina shows up and offers him a trade.



* DawsonCasting: The 28-year old Jay Baruchel as the 20-year old Dave.

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* DawsonCasting: The 28-year old Jay Baruchel Creator/JayBaruchel as the 20-year old Dave.



* ShownTheirWork: As revealed in the behind-the-scenes material, the place where Dave has his secret lab (which is then turned into his apprentice training ground with Balthasar) is [[SinisterSubway an old subway turnaround]], and based explicitly (in architecture and design) on the City Hall IRT station.




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** Creator/BrieLarson auditioned for Rebecca "Becky" Barnes.
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* OldShame: This bit from a 2013 stand up tells us ''exactly'' how Creator/JayBaruchel feels about the film.

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* OldShame: [[https://youtu.be/CN20nVDLkQM?t=85 This bit bit]] from a 2013 stand up tells us ''exactly'' how Creator/JayBaruchel feels about the film.
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** The scene where Dave tries to steal the doll back is a homage to the opening scene of ''Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk''. Then Creator/AlfredMolina shows up and offers him a trade.
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** Or shoots plasma blasts.
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* BreakawayPopHit: "Secrets" by Music/OneRepublic was used to promote this film, becoming another hit for the group.
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If someone is an American, there's no point in mentioning that they're not Fake American


** Becky is played by Teresa Palmer, an Australian. Averted with Peyton Roi List, who is American.
** Jay Baruchel is Canadian. Averted with Jake Cherry, who is American.

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** Becky is played by Teresa Palmer, an Australian. Averted with Peyton Roi List, who is American.\n
** Jay Baruchel is Canadian. Averted with Jake Cherry, who is American.
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* OldShame: This bit from a 2013 stand up tells us ''exactly'' how Creator/JayBaruchel feels about the film.
-->'''Jay's Conscience:''' Hey, I'm just trying to help you.\\
'''Jay:''' Well I don't need your help!\\
'''Jay's Conscience:''' Really? Who told you to write ''Film/{{Goon}}''?\\
'''Jay:''' You did.\\
'''Jay's Conscience:''' Who told you to make ''Film/ThisIsTheEnd''?\\
'''Jay:''' You did.\\
'''Jay's Conscience:''' And who told you ''not'' to do ''The Sorcerer's Apprentice''?\\
'''Jay:''' Hey! Hey, fuck you! [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff That movie made more money in Italy]]!
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!!For the webcomic
* WriteWhatYouKnow: Some of the ExpoSpeak makes it blatantly obvious that the author knows what she's talking about, such as when [[spoiler:Cooper gets bitten by a monster and Victoria instructs Cooper to ''not'' tell the doctors it was a random animal bite due to the complications of having to identify the breed of animal and getting rabies shots]].

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* BoxOfficeBomb: Budget, $150 million sans marketing costs. Gross: $63 million domestic, $251 million worldwide.

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* BoxOfficeBomb: Budget, $150 million sans marketing costs. Gross: $63 million domestic, $251 million worldwide. As noted below, however, it did better when available on home video.


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* VindicatedByCable: The film recouped its losses when it was released on DVD and Blu-ray.
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* BoxOfficeBomb: Budget, $150 million sans marketing costs. Gross: $63 million domestic, $251 million worldwide.
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** The same earlier draft included Abigail in the climactic battle, as well as more emphasis on how magic works, different backgrounds for Balthazar and Horvath, and the title of Prime Merlinian being generational rather than once-in-a-lifetime.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: An earlier draft included an appearance by Chernabog himself in the climactic battle, though he'll be in the sequel [[DevelopmentHell if they get the chance]].

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: An earlier draft included an appearance by Chernabog himself in the climactic battle, though he'll be in the sequel [[DevelopmentHell if they get the chance]].chance]].
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: An earlier draft included an appearance by Chernabog himself in the climactic battle, though he'll be in the sequel if they get the chance.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: An earlier draft included an appearance by Chernabog himself in the climactic battle, though he'll be in the sequel [[DevelopmentHell if they get the chance.chance]].
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Hey Its That Guy cut by TRS decision. Ditto for Hey Its That Voice.


* HeyItsThatGuy:
** Hey, [[Film/GhostRider Ghost Rider]] is fighting [[Film/SpiderMan2 Doc Ock]] to prevent him from releasing the [[Film/StarTrekFirstContact Borg Queen]]!. Interestingly, Ghost Rider uses something akin to magic while Doc Ock uses science... this movie manages to connect them both.
** [[Film/TropicThunder Kevin Sandusky]] loves [[Film/IAmNumberFour Number Six]]
** Is that [[Film/DeadMansShoes Anthony]] as the not so evil henchman, I see?
** Becky apparently looked like [[Series/{{Jessie}} Emma]] as a kid.
** [[Film/RockNRolla Being a real rock n' rolla]] means being a big famous illusionist?
* HeyItsThatVoice: Hey, it's [[WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon Hiccup]]. [[RetroactiveRecognition The trope is inverted this time.]]



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: An earlier draft included an appearance by Chernabog himself in the climactic battle, though he'll be in the sequel if they get the chance.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: An earlier draft included an appearance by Chernabog himself in the climactic battle, though he'll be in the sequel if they get the chance.
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* HeyItsThatVoice: Hey, it's [[Film/HowToTrainYourDragon Hiccup]]. [[RetroactiveRecognition The trope is inverted this time.]]

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* HeyItsThatVoice: Hey, it's [[Film/HowToTrainYourDragon [[WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon Hiccup]]. [[RetroactiveRecognition The trope is inverted this time.]]

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* HeyItsThatGuy: Hey, [[Film/GhostRider Ghost Rider]] is fighting [[Film/SpiderMan2 Doc Ock]] to prevent him from releasing the [[Film/StarTrekFirstContact Borg Queen]]!. Interestingly, Ghost Rider uses something akin to magic while Doc Ock uses science... this movie manages to connect them both.

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* HeyItsThatGuy: HeyItsThatGuy:
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Hey, [[Film/GhostRider Ghost Rider]] is fighting [[Film/SpiderMan2 Doc Ock]] to prevent him from releasing the [[Film/StarTrekFirstContact Borg Queen]]!. Interestingly, Ghost Rider uses something akin to magic while Doc Ock uses science... this movie manages to connect them both.



** Is that [[DeadMansShoes Anthony]] as the not so evil henchman, I see?

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** Is that [[DeadMansShoes [[Film/DeadMansShoes Anthony]] as the not so evil henchman, I see?



** [[RockNRolla Being a real rock n' rolla]] means being a big famous illusionist?

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** [[RockNRolla [[Film/RockNRolla Being a real rock n' rolla]] means being a big famous illusionist?
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* ShownTheirWork: As revealed in the behind-the-scenes material, the place where Dave has his secret lab (which is then turned into his apprentice training ground with Balthasar) is [[SinisterSubway an old subway turnaround]], and based explicitly (in architecture and design) on the City Hall IRT station.
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* ActorAllusion: This isn't the only time Creator/JayBaruchel plays a [[Film/ShesOutOfMyLeague character that ends]] [[WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon his respective movie by flying away]].



* FakeAmerican: Becky is played by an Australian.

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* FakeAmerican: Becky FakeAmerican:
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is played by Teresa Palmer, an Australian.Australian. Averted with Peyton Roi List, who is American.
**Jay Baruchel is Canadian. Averted with Jake Cherry, who is American.
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* DawsonCasting: The 28-year old Jay Baruchel as the 20-year old Dave.
* FakeAmerican: Becky is played by an Australian.


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** [[RockNRolla Being a real rock n' rolla]] means being a big famous illusionist?


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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: An earlier draft included an appearance by Chernabog himself in the climactic battle, though he'll be in the sequel if they get the chance.
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** [[Film/TropicThunder Kevin Sandusky]] loves [[IAmNumberFour Number Six]]

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** [[Film/TropicThunder Kevin Sandusky]] loves [[IAmNumberFour [[Film/IAmNumberFour Number Six]]
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** Becky apparently looked like [[Series/{{Jessie}} Emma]] as a kid.
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* HeyItsThatGuy: Hey, [[GhostRider Ghost Rider]] is fighting [[SpiderMan Doc Ock]] to prevent him from releasing the [[Film/StarTrekFirstContact Borg Queen]]!. Interestingly, Ghost Rider uses something akin to magic while Doc Ock uses science... this movie manages to connect them both.
** [[TropicThunder Kevin Sandusky]] loves [[IAmNumberFour Number Six]]

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* HeyItsThatGuy: Hey, [[GhostRider [[Film/GhostRider Ghost Rider]] is fighting [[SpiderMan [[Film/SpiderMan2 Doc Ock]] to prevent him from releasing the [[Film/StarTrekFirstContact Borg Queen]]!. Interestingly, Ghost Rider uses something akin to magic while Doc Ock uses science... this movie manages to connect them both.
** [[TropicThunder [[Film/TropicThunder Kevin Sandusky]] loves [[IAmNumberFour Number Six]]
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* HeyItsThatGuy: Hey, [[GhostRider Ghost Rider]] is fighting [[SpiderMan Doc Ock]] to prevent him from releasing the [[Film/StarTrekFirstContact Borg Queen]]!. And apparently they're sorcerers now.

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* HeyItsThatGuy: Hey, [[GhostRider Ghost Rider]] is fighting [[SpiderMan Doc Ock]] to prevent him from releasing the [[Film/StarTrekFirstContact Borg Queen]]!. And apparently they're sorcerers now.Interestingly, Ghost Rider uses something akin to magic while Doc Ock uses science... this movie manages to connect them both.
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* HeyItsThatVoice: Hey, it's [[Film/HowToTrainYourDragon Hiccup]]. The trope is inverted this time.

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* HeyItsThatVoice: Hey, it's [[Film/HowToTrainYourDragon Hiccup]]. [[RetroactiveRecognition The trope is inverted this time.]]
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** [[TropicThunder KevinSandusky]] loves [[IAmNumberFour Number Six]]

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** [[TropicThunder KevinSandusky]] Kevin Sandusky]] loves [[IAmNumberFour Number Six]]
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* HeyItsThatGuy: Hey, [[GhostRider Ghost Rider]] is fighting [[SpiderMan Doc Ock]] to prevent him from releasing the [[StarTrekFirstContact Borg Queen]]!. And apparently they're sorcerers now.

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* HeyItsThatGuy: Hey, [[GhostRider Ghost Rider]] is fighting [[SpiderMan Doc Ock]] to prevent him from releasing the [[StarTrekFirstContact [[Film/StarTrekFirstContact Borg Queen]]!. And apparently they're sorcerers now.
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** [[TropicThunder KevinSandusky]] loves [[IAmNumberFour Number Six]]

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