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* MissingTrailerScene: In most of the advertising and in all three main trailers, [[http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2015-02/15/23/enhanced/webdr02/anigif_enhanced-buzz-25858-1424059301-6.gif this shot of Azog]] was prominently featured. For reasons that still aren't exactly clear, during re-shoots [[TheOtherDarrin it was changed to Bolg.]] Doubles as WhatCouldHaveBeen because had they kept it Azog, we could have had a fight scene between Legolas and Azog.

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* MissingTrailerScene: In most of the advertising and in all three main trailers, [[http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2015-02/15/23/enhanced/webdr02/anigif_enhanced-buzz-25858-1424059301-6.gif [[https://electric-shadows.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/The-Hobbit-The-Desolation-of-Smaug-Orc1.jpg this shot of Azog]] was prominently featured. For reasons In the shooting script that still aren't exactly clear, during re-shoots [[TheOtherDarrin it was preceded two films becoming three, the main Orcs had reverse roles: Azog continued chasing the dwarves while Bolg confronted Gandalf in Dol Guldur. When both orcs were changed to Bolg.]] Doubles be full CGI characters, their roles were swapped as WhatCouldHaveBeen because had they kept it Azog, we could have had a fight scene between Legolas and Azog.well.



* RealLifeRelative: Creator/PeterJackson's daughter Katie is the barmaid serving Thorin and Gandalf at the Prancing Pony.

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* RealLifeRelative: Creator/PeterJackson's daughter Katie is the barmaid serving Thorin and Gandalf at the Prancing Pony. The other wench in the same scene is Philippa Boyens' daughter.

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* ActingForTwo: Creator/BenedictCumberbatch also provides the voice of Sauron.

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Creator/BenedictCumberbatch also provides the voice of Sauron.voices for both Sauron and Smaug.
** Creator/LukeEvans plays Bard the Bowman and Bard's IdenticalAncestor Girion in flashbacks.

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* DyeingForYourArt: Creator/BenedictCumberbatch, in his own words, ”ripped into [his] vocal cords quite literally, [he] had blood at the end of the day from tearing [his] throat to pieces.” in order to get Smaug's voice right. The crew had to make a lot of "Gollum Juice" for him, a tea of honey, lemon and ginger, which Creator/AndySerkis had created during the original trilogy when voicing Gollum.

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* DyeingForYourArt: Creator/BenedictCumberbatch, in his own words, ”ripped "ripped into [his] vocal cords quite literally, [he] had blood at the end of the day from tearing [his] throat to pieces." in order to get Smaug's voice right. The crew had to make a lot of "Gollum Juice" for him, a tea of honey, lemon and ginger, which Creator/AndySerkis had created during the original trilogy when voicing Gollum.



* MissingTrailerScene: In most of the advertising and in all three main trailers, [[http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2015-02/15/23/enhanced/webdr02/anigif_enhanced-buzz-25858-1424059301-6.gif this shot of Azog]] was prominently featured. For reasons that still aren't exactly clear, during re-shoots [[Main/TheOtherDarrin it was changed to Bolg.]] Doubles as WhatCouldHaveBeen because had they kept it Azog, we could have had a fight scene between Legolas and Azog.

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* MissingTrailerScene: In most of the advertising and in all three main trailers, [[http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2015-02/15/23/enhanced/webdr02/anigif_enhanced-buzz-25858-1424059301-6.gif this shot of Azog]] was prominently featured. For reasons that still aren't exactly clear, during re-shoots [[Main/TheOtherDarrin [[TheOtherDarrin it was changed to Bolg.]] Doubles as WhatCouldHaveBeen because had they kept it Azog, we could have had a fight scene between Legolas and Azog.Azog.
* PromotedFanboy: Evangeline Lilly and Creator/StephenColbert were long-time Tolkien fans before getting roles in the series.
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* RefittedForSequel: The barrel fight scene is very similar to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiw83dRORbA a scene]] from ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'' where the Fellowship are ambushed by Orc archers while they're rowing through the rapids of Sarn Gebir on the Great River Anduin. The scene got cut from the film adaptation of ''[[Film/TheLordOfTheRingsTheFellowshipOfTheRing The Fellowship of the Ring]]'' because the set where it would have been filmed [[TroubledProduction wound up getting destroyed during a flood]].

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* EnforcedMethodActing: The actors playing Bard's kids weren't told where exactly the Last Black Arrow was hidden, so their reaction to Bard just whipping it out of its HiddenInPlainSight spot was genuine.

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* EnforcedMethodActing: EnforcedMethodActing:
** The fish that were dumped into the barrels to hide Bilbo and the Dwarves were real fish, with a few rubber props mixed in. At one point, Adam Brown (Ori) had as much as four hundred pounds of fish dumped directly on him. Brown hates fish, and had to fight his own phobia while buried in them in the barrel, and while he waited for crew members to pull them off of him. Since the fish were slippery, they had to be taken out by hand one at a time.
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The actors playing Bard's kids weren't told where exactly the Last Black Arrow was hidden, so their reaction to Bard just whipping it out of its HiddenInPlainSight spot was genuine.


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* RealLifeRelative: Creator/PeterJackson's daughter Katie is the barmaid serving Thorin and Gandalf at the Prancing Pony.

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* DeletedScenes: In most of the advertising and in all three main trailers, [[http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2015-02/15/23/enhanced/webdr02/anigif_enhanced-buzz-25858-1424059301-6.gif this shot of Azog]] was prominently featured. For reasons that still aren't exactly clear, during re-shoots [[Main/TheOtherDarrin it was changed to Bolg.]] Doubles as WhatCouldHaveBeen because had they kept it Azog, we could have had a fight scene between Legolas and Azog.



* ThrowItIn: Richard Armitage really hated doing action scenes in Thorin's heavy cloak, and begged Jackson to have him lose it somehow. Thus, Thorin shrugging it off after it's set on fire by Smaug.

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* MissingTrailerScene: In most of the advertising and in all three main trailers, [[http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2015-02/15/23/enhanced/webdr02/anigif_enhanced-buzz-25858-1424059301-6.gif this shot of Azog]] was prominently featured. For reasons that still aren't exactly clear, during re-shoots [[Main/TheOtherDarrin it was changed to Bolg.]] Doubles as WhatCouldHaveBeen because had they kept it Azog, we could have had a fight scene between Legolas and Azog.
* ThrowItIn: Richard Armitage Creator/RichardArmitage really hated doing action scenes in Thorin's heavy cloak, and begged Jackson to have him lose it somehow. Thus, Thorin shrugging it off after it's set on fire by Smaug.



* WritingByTheSeatOfYourPants: Much of the Dwarves vs. Smaug scene at the end was filmed without any real idea of what they were trying to represent, because the decision had been made to make three films instead of two and they suddenly needed a cliffhanger. Only after shooting a lot of reaction shots and running around did Peter Jackson have the idea of them using the foundries to try to smother Smaug in gold.

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* WritingByTheSeatOfYourPants: Much of the Dwarves vs. Smaug scene at the end was filmed without any real idea of what they were trying to represent, because the decision had been made to make three films instead of two and they suddenly needed a cliffhanger. Only after shooting a lot of reaction shots and running around did Peter Jackson Creator/PeterJackson have the idea of them using the foundries to try to smother Smaug in gold.
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* ThrowItIn: Richard Armitage really hated doing action scenes in Thorin's heavy cloak, and begged Jackson to have him lose it somehow. Thus, Thorin shrugging it off after it's set on fire by Smaug.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: See [[WhatCouldHaveBeen/TheHobbit subpage]].
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* EnforcedMethodActing: The actors playing Bard's kids weren't told where exactly the Last Black Arrow was hidden, so their reaction to Bard just whipping it out of its HiddenInPlainSight spot was genuine.
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* DyeingForYourArt: Creator/BenedictCumberbatch, in his own words, ”ripped into [his] vocal chords quite literally, [he] had blood at the end of the day from tearing [his] throat to pieces.” in order to get Smaug's voice right. The crew had to make a lot of "Gollum Juice" for him, a tea of honey, lemon and ginger, which Creator/AndySerkis had created during the original trilogy when voicing Gollum.

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* DyeingForYourArt: Creator/BenedictCumberbatch, in his own words, ”ripped into [his] vocal chords cords quite literally, [he] had blood at the end of the day from tearing [his] throat to pieces.” in order to get Smaug's voice right. The crew had to make a lot of "Gollum Juice" for him, a tea of honey, lemon and ginger, which Creator/AndySerkis had created during the original trilogy when voicing Gollum.
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* ActorAllusion: When [[Creator/StephenFry the Master of Laketown]] jovially greets Thorin and his company with "Welcome, welcome and thrice welcome!" it almost sounds like he's introducing an episode of ''Series/{{Qi}}''.
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* DyeingForYourArt: Creator/BenedictCumberbatch, in his own words, ”ripped into [his] vocal chords quite literally, [he] had blood at the end of the day from tearing [his] throat to pieces.” in order to get Smaug's voice right.

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* DyeingForYourArt: Creator/BenedictCumberbatch, in his own words, ”ripped into [his] vocal chords quite literally, [he] had blood at the end of the day from tearing [his] throat to pieces.” in order to get Smaug's voice right. The crew had to make a lot of "Gollum Juice" for him, a tea of honey, lemon and ginger, which Creator/AndySerkis had created during the original trilogy when voicing Gollum.
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* DeletedScenes: In most of the advertising and in all three main trailers, [[http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2015-02/15/23/enhanced/webdr02/anigif_enhanced-buzz-25858-1424059301-6.gif this shot of Azog]] was prominently featured. For reasons that still aren't exactly clear, during re-shoots [[Main/TheOtherDarrin it was changed to Bolg.]] Doubles as WhatCouldHaveBeen because had they kept it Azog, we could have had a fight scene between Legolas and Azog.

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* ActingForTwo: Creator/BenedictCumberbatch also provides the voice of Sauron.




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* WritingByTheSeatOfYourPants: Much of the Dwarves vs. Smaug scene at the end was filmed without any real idea of what they were trying to represent, because the decision had been made to make three films instead of two and they suddenly needed a cliffhanger. Only after shooting a lot of reaction shots and running around did Peter Jackson have the idea of them using the foundries to try to smother Smaug in gold.
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* ActorAllusion: When [[Actor/StephenFry the Master of Laketown]] jovially greets Thorin and his company with "Welcome, welcome and thrice welcome!" it almost sounds like he's introducing an episode of ''Series/{{Qi}}''.

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* ActorAllusion: When [[Actor/StephenFry [[Creator/StephenFry the Master of Laketown]] jovially greets Thorin and his company with "Welcome, welcome and thrice welcome!" it almost sounds like he's introducing an episode of ''Series/{{Qi}}''.
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* ActorAllusion: When [[Actor/StephenFry the Master of Laketown]] jovially greets Thorin and his company with "Welcome, welcome and thrice welcome!" it almost sounds like he's introducing an episode of ''Series/{{Qi}}''.
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* DyeingForYourArt: Creator/BenedictCumberbatch, in his own words, ”ripped into [his] vocal chords quite literally, [he] had blood at the end of the day from tearing [his] throat to pieces.” in order to get Smaug's voice right.
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* MeaningfulReleaseDate: The movie will be released in China on February 21 2014. In numbers without the year, the date will be 221. In ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'', Creator/BenedictCumberbatch and Creator/MartinFreeman live at 221B Baker Street.

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* MeaningfulReleaseDate: The movie will be was released in China on February 21 2014. In numbers without the year, the date will be 221. In ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'', Creator/BenedictCumberbatch and Creator/MartinFreeman live at 221B Baker Street.
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* MeaningfulReleaseDate: The movie will be released in China on February 21 2014. In numbers without the year, the date will be 221. In ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'', Creator/BenedictCumberbatch and Creator/MartinFreeman live at 221B Baker Street.

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* MeaningfulReleaseDate: The movie will be released in China on February 21 2014. In numbers without the year, the date will be 221. In ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'', Creator/BenedictCumberbatch and Creator/MartinFreeman live at 221B Baker Street.Street.

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