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The ones who [[NeverFoundTheBody killed you]] are invading Imperial space. They think we won't fight back. [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy They're wrong]]. [[GondorCallsForAid Mandalore is gathering the clans]], [[CrusadingWidower and I'm answering his call]]. 'Ret'urcye mhi'[[note]]A Mandalorian phrase used the same way one says 'see you' to friends[[/note]] doesn't mean goodbye--it means 'Maybe we'll see each other again.' [[WarriorHeaven If there's another life beyond this one]], [[TogetherinDeath I hope we do]].

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The ones who [[NeverFoundTheBody killed you]] are invading Imperial space. They think we won't fight back. [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy They're wrong]]. [[GondorCallsForAid Mandalore is gathering the clans]], [[CrusadingWidower [[CrusadingWidow and I'm answering his call]]. 'Ret'urcye mhi'[[note]]A Mandalorian phrase used the same way one says 'see you' to friends[[/note]] doesn't mean goodbye--it means 'Maybe we'll see each other again.' [[WarriorHeaven If there's another life beyond this one]], [[TogetherinDeath I hope we do]].
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** ''Literature/{{Revan}}'' shows the details of the event. The Jedi Exile (or Meetra Surik) was a Jedi general who served under Revan during the Mandalorian Wars and was his former Padawan. She was responsible for [[EarthShatteringKaboom activating the Mass Shadow Generator, which destroyed Malachor Five,]] [[AMotherToHerMen and due to her Force bonds with her soldiers,]] [[DeconstructedTrope she feels the death of]] ''every soldier on Malachor Five.'' The only way she survived this was by instinctively [[BroughtDownToNormal cutting her connection to the Force.]] Then, since she was the only Jedi to return to the Council to face judgement, she was scapegoated for ''every damn thing Revan's army did and kicked out of the Order.'' Then, after wandering the galaxy for a while, she's pulled out of retirement to rebuild the Jedi Order after the Sith Triumvirate exterminated it a la Order 66. She's appears to be doing fine when one of her companions turns out to be a former member of the Triumvirate, forcing her to destroy her along with Malachor Five...''again''. [[UpToEleven It gets worse.]] Along the way, she finds out that she's a [[HumanoidAbomination "wound in the Force", meaning that she siphons the life force of her surroundings to use her Force powers.]] Despite all of this, she still rebuilds the Jedi Order, but she then goes to find her missing Master: Revan. She discovers him on Dromund Kaas, and with the help of the future Emperor's Wrath, Lord Scourge, she breaks out Revan and faces the Sith Emperor. However, he's too strong even for the three of them, so Scourge betrays them to save himself, killing Meetra in the process. [[PlayerPunch Needless to say,]] [[ShootTheShaggyDog she really, really deserves a hug.]]

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** ''Literature/{{Revan}}'' shows the details of the event. The Jedi Exile (or Meetra Surik) was a Jedi general who served under Revan during the Mandalorian Wars and was his former Padawan. She was responsible for [[EarthShatteringKaboom activating the Mass Shadow Generator, which destroyed Malachor Five,]] [[AMotherToHerMen and due to her Force bonds with her soldiers,]] [[DeconstructedTrope she feels the death of]] ''every soldier on Malachor Five.'' The only way she survived this was by instinctively [[BroughtDownToNormal cutting her connection to the Force.]] Then, since she was the only Jedi to return to the Council to face judgement, she was scapegoated for ''every damn thing Revan's army did and kicked out of the Order.'' Then, after wandering the galaxy for a while, she's pulled out of retirement to rebuild the Jedi Order after the Sith Triumvirate exterminated it a la Order 66. She's appears to be doing fine when one of her companions turns out to be a former member of the Triumvirate, forcing her to destroy her along with Malachor Five...''again''. [[UpToEleven It gets worse.]] worse. Along the way, she finds out that she's a [[HumanoidAbomination "wound in the Force", meaning that she siphons the life force of her surroundings to use her Force powers.]] Despite all of this, she still rebuilds the Jedi Order, but she then goes to find her missing Master: Revan. She discovers him on Dromund Kaas, and with the help of the future Emperor's Wrath, Lord Scourge, she breaks out Revan and faces the Sith Emperor. However, he's too strong even for the three of them, so Scourge betrays them to save himself, killing Meetra in the process. [[PlayerPunch Needless to say,]] [[ShootTheShaggyDog she really, really deserves a hug.]]

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* At the end of the base storyline, as the Jedi Knight goes to confront the Emperor, they pass by the old remains of a droid. The game makes no point of it, but, if you've read the the novel ''Revan,'' you know exactly what this is - the last remains of loyal droid companion T3-M4, destroyed by Scourge during Revan and the Exile's failed attempt to stop the Emperor. And you can find a few items of some use in his remains still.
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* While all Smugglers will be upset about Darmas' betrayal, a female Smuggler who romanced him can (dpending on dialog choices) remain in denial about it for far longer and then is utterly heartbroken when he confirms he was just manipulating her.
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* [[spoiler:Seeing Tol Braga go beyond the DespairEventHorizon is gut wrenching. Sure, he was [[StupidGood overly naive to assume that he could redeem the Sith Emperor]], but to see him so broken that he willingly becomes the StrawNihilist in trying to end the cycle once and for all [[JerkassWoobie makes him so pitiable]]. It's not difficult to imagine that taking the Dark Side option to execute him is a MercyKill.]]
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* In the Shadow of Revan expansion, romancing Lana Beniko as a Jedi. She really is the kind of NobleDemon a lightsided Imperial will end up being. She kindly brushes off all suggestions of defecting, or learning Jedi ways, but the two of you are really NotSoDifferent, and it ends with both of you acknowledging that, no matter how much you wish otherwise, you will likely have to be enemies when you meet again.

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* In the Shadow of Revan expansion, romancing Lana Beniko as a Jedi. She really is the kind of NobleDemon a lightsided Imperial will end up being. She kindly brushes off all suggestions of defecting, or learning Jedi ways, but the two of you are really NotSoDifferent, aren't so different, and it ends with both of you acknowledging that, no matter how much you wish otherwise, you will likely have to be enemies when you meet again.



* After Nar Shaddaa's storyline, Mako is shaken by the loss of her childhood friend and by her encounter with the assassin, asking if she and the Hunter are NotSoDifferent because the Hunter, she, and her friend's killer are all just killers for hire. The Hunter can try and justify it, or they sadly admit that they aren't any different. It gets a small affection loss from Mako as she sadly acknowledges her profession (that she's grown up with in Braden's stable) isn't noble at all.

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* After Nar Shaddaa's storyline, Mako is shaken by the loss of her childhood friend and by her encounter with the assassin, asking if she and the Hunter are NotSoDifferent not so different because the Hunter, she, and her friend's killer are all just killers for hire. The Hunter can try and justify it, or they sadly admit that they aren't any different. It gets a small affection loss from Mako as she sadly acknowledges her profession (that she's grown up with in Braden's stable) isn't noble at all.
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* A Male smuggler who developed genuine feelings for Risha may end up giving up on her, in pursuit of her marrying Count Merrit. Being that he knows that Risha has a better chance of reclaiming the kingdom from her, [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy if she is married to an important earl than to a smuggler.]]
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* If she survived ''Knights of the Eternal Throne'' and was brought for the mission, Senya will try one last time to reach Vaylin when she's encountered in Satele's mindscape. In a heartfelt and tearful voice, she takes full blame for everything Valkorion did to Vaylin, admitting that she should have fought harder for her daughter. Worse is that Vaylin never accepts Senya's apology. And in a letter she sends afterwards, Senya expresses regret that she may have somehow made things worse. There's no happy resolution to this fractured relationship between mother and child.
* Satele's rage and sorrow towards the player character if you left Theron to die on Nathema. You can even be a huge dick to her and rub it in her face.
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-->"The Republic has done nothing but blockade me at every turn! Their Supreme Chancellor tried to have me ''KILLED!''"[[/folder]]

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-->"The Republic has done nothing but blockade me at every turn! Their Supreme Chancellor tried to have me ''KILLED!''"[[/folder]]''KILLED!''"[[/folder]]

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* While it is a happy sort of Tearjerker, Satele Shan telling the player character that Revan, Meetra and Darth Marr have 'become one with the Force' upon the complete destruction of Tenebrae. They've made their peace and moved on, and will presumably never return for future expansions again.
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* Feylara is a former lover of your archenemy Skavak and is going to such crazy lengths to impress him. However, after her plan To kill you fails and her former lover abandons her, she suffers a VillainousBreakdown and starts openly crying in front of you. Feylara is such a [[TheDitz Ditz]] that the reason said plan failed is because she doesn't have a lot of common sense and didn't think too far ahead, so it's safe to say that she has the [[{{Womanchild}} mentality of a child]]. So you have a woman, no more mature than, say, a young teenager, crying in front of you because she has been abandoned by the man she thought she loved, ''[[VideoGameCrueltyPotential and you have the option of killing her!]]'' [[VideoGameCaringPotential (on the plus side, you also have the option of sparing her and making her feel better)]].

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* Feylara is a former lover of your archenemy Skavak and is going to such crazy lengths to impress him. However, after her plan To to kill you fails and her former lover abandons her, she suffers a VillainousBreakdown and starts openly crying in front of you. Feylara is such a [[TheDitz Ditz]] that the reason said plan failed is because she doesn't have a lot of common sense and didn't think too far ahead, so it's safe to say that she has the [[{{Womanchild}} mentality of a child]]. So you have a woman, no more mature than, say, a young teenager, crying in front of you because she has been abandoned by [[GoldDigger the man she thought she loved, loved her]], ''[[VideoGameCrueltyPotential and you have the option of killing her!]]'' [[VideoGameCaringPotential (on the plus side, you also have the option of sparing her and making her feel better)]].
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* Feylara is a former lover of your archenemy Skavak and is going to such crazy lengths to impress him. However, after her plan fails and her former lover abandons her, she suffers a VillainousBreakdown and is crying in front of you. Feylara is such a [[TheDitz Ditz]] that the reason said plan failed is because she doesn't have a lot of common sense and didn't think too far ahead, so it's safe to say that she has the [[{{Womanchild}} mentality of a child]]. So you have a woman, no more mature than, say, a young teenager, crying in front of you because she has been abandoned by the man she thought she loved, ''[[VideoGameCrueltyPotential and you have the option of killing her!]]'' [[VideoGameCaringPotential (on the plus side, you also have the option of sparing her and making her feel better)]].

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* Feylara is a former lover of your archenemy Skavak and is going to such crazy lengths to impress him. However, after her plan To kill you fails and her former lover abandons her, she suffers a VillainousBreakdown and is starts openly crying in front of you. Feylara is such a [[TheDitz Ditz]] that the reason said plan failed is because she doesn't have a lot of common sense and didn't think too far ahead, so it's safe to say that she has the [[{{Womanchild}} mentality of a child]]. So you have a woman, no more mature than, say, a young teenager, crying in front of you because she has been abandoned by the man she thought she loved, ''[[VideoGameCrueltyPotential and you have the option of killing her!]]'' [[VideoGameCaringPotential (on the plus side, you also have the option of sparing her and making her feel better)]].
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* Feylara is a former lover of your archenemy and is going to such crazy lengths to impress him. However, she suffers a VillainousBreakdown and is crying in front of you. You have the option to kill her, but you also can spare her and tell her to find a better man.

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* Feylara is a former lover of your archenemy Skavak and is going to such crazy lengths to impress him. However, after her plan fails and her former lover abandons her, she suffers a VillainousBreakdown and is crying in front of you. You Feylara is such a [[TheDitz Ditz]] that the reason said plan failed is because she doesn't have a lot of common sense and didn't think too far ahead, so it's safe to say that she has the [[{{Womanchild}} mentality of a child]]. So you have a woman, no more mature than, say, a young teenager, crying in front of you because she has been abandoned by the man she thought she loved, ''[[VideoGameCrueltyPotential and you have the option to kill her, but of killing her!]]'' [[VideoGameCaringPotential (on the plus side, you also can spare have the option of sparing her and tell making her to find a better man. feel better)]].
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** The Imperial Agent's mind healing on Voss, particularly if you chose to roleplay as a patriot that just wanted to serve the empire, only to be used by everyone and now feel you have lost your way...finally lamenting that you just want to be free...and have control of your own destiny.
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* On a Meta level, while all the Imperial Classes will have some degree of ShootTheShaggyDog story considering the Sith Empire ''will'' fall in a millenia and a half, for a Sith Inquisitor, especially a light sided one, its far worse. A LS SI will push for reforms and can even be the kind of sith who doesn't backstab everyone and supports non-Sith Purbloods and non-humans. Reforms Acina will implement [[spoiler: when she becomes Empress]]. These reforms ''do'' take in Legends EU, giving the Sith a HopeSpot... but they still struggle with their ChronicBackstabbingDisorder, so that when the Brotherhood takes over with the intent of implementing those reforms without losing Sith identity, they get wiped out by Darth Bane. Even worse is that Bane will wipe away those very reforms like "not fucking over the military"... [[DramaticIrony using the teachings of Darth Revan.]] But hey, at least the SI as the Alliance Commander got rid of [[spoiler: Vitiate/Valkorion]], right? That put them in the history books, right? ''Maybe as a footnote,'' because [[spoiler: Vitiate]] is an inspiration to both Darth Plageius and Darth Sidious/Palpatine. Also even if you found functional Immortality in ''Shadow of Revan'', the technique was apparently lost as Plageius and Palpatine use ''Vitiate's'' research into immortality instead of yours, with Palpatine noting that only Vitiate ever got close to it. At least the Hero of Thython and the Third Barsen'thor will be remembered amongst the Jedi, and the Emperor's Hand/Sith Warrior might have inspired some combat techniques. But the Sith Inquisitor? The one who pulled themselves up from the Slave Pens onto the Dark Council? It was ultimately AllForNothing. At best they're remembered for killing [[spoiler: Valkorion]], but all the hard work, research, and soul searching? [[JerkassHasAPoint Guess Harkun was right.]] As far as history was concerned, the Sith Inquisitor really was just a slave: [[DoomedByCanon a slave to the Legends Canon.]]
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* Although Tau Idair initially comes across as confident to the point of arrogance, it quickly becomes clear that she's a HeartbrokenBadass, crippled with SurvivorsGuilt and thoroughly believing that her experiences and talent for battle mean that she's a great fighter but a bad Jedi, even with Gnost-Dural's [[YouAreBetterThanYouThink encouragement]].

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* Although Tau Idair initially comes across as confident to the point of arrogance, it quickly becomes clear that she's a HeartbrokenBadass, crippled with SurvivorsGuilt and thoroughly believing that her experiences and talent for battle mean that she's a great fighter but a bad Jedi, even with Gnost-Dural's [[YouAreBetterThanYouThink [[YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre encouragement]].
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* At the end of "The Nathema Conspiracy," you can choose to leave Theron to die when he's critically injured. Well, you can if you can stand to hear what a voice actor of TroyBaker's caliber is capable of doing in a situation like that and not back out to take the other option.

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* At the end of "The Nathema Conspiracy," you can choose to leave Theron to die when he's critically injured. Well, you can if you can stand to hear what a voice actor of TroyBaker's Creator/TroyBaker's caliber is capable of doing in a situation like that and not back out to take the other option.



** For [[SarcasmMode extra fun]], do any of this after you've romanced him. Or try to, that is. TroyBaker really earns his paycheck.

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** For [[SarcasmMode extra fun]], do any of this after you've romanced him. Or try to, that is. TroyBaker Creator/TroyBaker really earns his paycheck.

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* The new ''Shadow of Revan'' Bounty Hunter story mission springs Crysta Markon's death defending her daughter on you. You get to have a nice RoaringRampageOfRevenge, though.

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* The new Bounty Hunter's class mission in ''Shadow of Revan'' Bounty Hunter story mission springs has you meet Crysta Markon's death daughter... who tells you her mother died defending her daughter on you. her. You get to have a nice RoaringRampageOfRevenge, though.



* Similar to the Inquisitor's "Not a slave" quote above, the IA may get a similar moment in the chapter two finale. When Watcher X asks you what you want to do now that you essentially mind-control yourself, one possible reply is: "No more codewords. No more control." The Agent may not have been a slave who became Sith but they know just as well how little their freedom meant to the people they trusted the hard way, and the utterly serious way they deliver that line, without a trace of their usual suaveness, shows how deeply being tugged along on a string has affected them. Culminates in a mini-SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome when it's revealed that (for story purposes anyway) as a result, the agent is completely immune to mind control, or at least tech-based mind control, including kinds they've never encountered before.

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* Similar to the Inquisitor's "Not a slave" quote above, the IA may get a similar moment in the chapter two finale. When Watcher X asks you what you want to do now that you essentially mind-control yourself, one possible reply is: "No more codewords. No more control." The Agent may not have been a slave who became Sith Sith, but they know just as well how little their freedom meant to the people they trusted the hard way, and the utterly serious way they deliver that line, without a trace of their usual suaveness, shows how deeply being tugged along on a string has affected them. Culminates in a mini-SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome when it's revealed that (for story purposes anyway) as a result, the agent Agent is completely immune to mind control, or at least tech-based mind control, including kinds they've never encountered before.



*** It's worth noting that his letter is the ''only'' letter that refers to the player character as a spouse (specifically wife as he's only romancable by female troopers). And the thing is, Cathar mate for ''life''. They don't DO divorce or remarriage. (this is an important character point for Sylvar from the Tales of the Jedi series. She's extremely bitter because while she sided with the Jedi during the Exar Kun War, her husband/mate Crado sided with Exar Kun and died during the war ''and she's never allowed to take another spouse/mate''.) Jorgan even mentions just how big a deal taking a mate is for Cathar in his romance line.

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*** It's worth noting that his letter is the ''only'' letter that refers to the player character as a spouse (specifically wife as he's only romancable romanceable by female troopers). And the thing is, Cathar mate for ''life''. They don't DO divorce or remarriage. (this is an important character point for Sylvar from the Tales of the Jedi series. She's extremely bitter because while she sided with the Jedi during the Exar Kun War, her husband/mate Crado sided with Exar Kun and died during the war ''and she's never allowed to take another spouse/mate''.) Jorgan even mentions just how big a deal taking a mate is for Cathar in his romance line.



** Even the tough-as-nails [[DarkActionGirl Dark Action Girls]], Jaesa and Kaliyo, have these kinds of letters, once you read past [[HowDareYouDieOnMe the anger]]. Jaesa says she “feels nothing” anymore, and then hastily tries to deny she's grieving; she knew that everything ends eventually, so why should she cry over the Outlander being gone, and why is she writing to a dead man? Kaliyo, meanwhile, rather bitterly says she thought they had a good thing going, but it looks like she was wrong. That’s okay, though, she’s learned by now that men aren’t worth crying over, and swears to NeverBeHurtAgain. Neither of them is dealing with their grief in a healthy way, and it's very heartbreaking to see.

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** Even the tough-as-nails [[DarkActionGirl Dark Action Girls]], Jaesa and Kaliyo, have these kinds of letters, once you read past [[HowDareYouDieOnMe the anger]]. Jaesa says she “feels nothing” "feels nothing" anymore, and then hastily tries to deny she's grieving; she knew that everything ends eventually, so why should she cry over the Outlander being gone, and why is she writing to a dead man? Kaliyo, meanwhile, rather bitterly says she thought they had a good thing going, but it looks like she was wrong. That’s okay, though, she’s learned by now that men aren’t worth crying over, and swears to NeverBeHurtAgain. Neither of them is dealing with their grief in a healthy way, and it's very heartbreaking to see.



* In chapter 16 Senya finds Arcann seemingly dead on the collapsing ship and her reaction is gut-wrenching.
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* In chapter 16 16, Senya finds Arcann seemingly dead on the collapsing ship and her reaction is gut-wrenching.
--->'''Senya'''I --->'''Senya:''' I wanted to save youyou.



--->'''Senya''' What happened to Thexan...to Arcann...I should've stayed.
--->'''Vaylin''' You were weak. You left us. ''You left me.''

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--->'''Senya''' --->'''Senya:''' What happened to Thexan...to Arcann...I should've stayed.
--->'''Vaylin''' --->'''Vaylin:''' You were weak. You left us. ''You left me.''



* On Dromund Kaas, Valkorian will casually dismiss the Sith Empire as a failed experiment. A Sith Outlander can call him out on this, with one line in particular letting on just how hurtful his disregard can be, even after everything that's already happened between them.

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* On Dromund Kaas, Valkorian will casually dismiss the Sith Empire as a failed experiment. A An Agent or Sith Outlander can call him out on this, with one line in particular letting on just how hurtful his disregard can be, even after everything that's already happened between them.



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** Every class gets a chance to call Valkorian out on "conditioning" Vaylin, but for the Agent in particular, ItsPersonal. The Agent can say that after their own experience, they wouldn't wish that on their worst enemy - which, at the moment, is exactly what Vaylin is.



** Siding with the empire as a Trooper in general is heartbreaking if you think about it, you spend the entirety of act 1 hunting the old havoc squad, fought countless battles against the empire, only to throw that all away and join the empire, making Elara hate your guts and General Garza gunning for you in the Nathema flashpoint, what makes you any different from Harron Tavus now?

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** Siding with the empire Empire as a Trooper in general is heartbreaking if you think about it, you spend the entirety of act 1 hunting the old havoc squad, fought countless battles against the empire, Empire, only to throw that all away and join the empire, making Elara hate your guts and General Garza gunning for you in the Nathema flashpoint, what makes you any different from Harron Tavus now?

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* The ultimate fate of Revan is both heartbreaking and rage-inducing. He is rescued from his centuries-long imprisonment by Republic players, only to attempt to save the galaxy by wiping out everyone with any trace of Sith blood... which is around 97% of the Imperial population. Imperial players are sent to take him down, and as he (seemingly) dies, he echoes Malak's last words on how he is beyond redemption. PlayerPunch doesn't even begin to cover how much this sucks for fans of the old games.
--> '''Revan''': [[TearJerker And in the end, as the darkness takes me, I am nothing.]] [[PlayerPunch Now I know how you felt,]] [[VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic my friend.]]
** The Foundry: Especially for the lightside players, but seeing how far Revan has fallen, to his monstrous plan to kill most of the Sith Empire... an awful lot of lines are desperate attempts to persuade him that he's been corrupted, all to no avail. And then his [[IronicEcho final words.]]
** And to drive the nail ''even goddamn further,'' the theme playing in the background isn't anything uplifting or Jedi-like, but instead sounding much closer to a Sith. It's a stripped down DarkReprise of the character creation screen from the first game.
** It gets worse: in the Shadow of Revan expansion, we learn that only his light side half let go and died. His dark side half still survived and went even more insane. He takes personal command of his cult and begins a ritual to ''[[WhatTheHellHero give the incorporeal Emperor a body]]'' in order to ostensibly kill him once and for all.
** Basically, [[Manga/TokyoGhoul if, for argument's sake, you were to write a story with Revan as the lead role,]] [[ShootTheShaggyDog it would most certainly be a tragedy.]]
** And for anyone who romanced Bastila or Carth Onasi as a Light-sided male or female Revan from KOTOR I, it's an extra gut-puncher because if you play KOTOR II, they're both waiting for Revan to come back, and have no idea that they were imprisoned by the Sith Emperor. Carth and Bastila waited for their lover to come home to them, and died without seeing them again.
** Also in the Foundry, after you've destroyed HK47, Revan comments: "That droid waited loyally for me for 300 years. I can rebuild him, but it won't be the same." Considering HK47's attitude toward ''meatbags'', it really brings home how much the original crew of the Ebon Hawk meant to each other, and how it has all been lost.



* The Dark-sided ending for the 'Boarding Party' Imperial Flashpoint. After capturing the Republic cruiser with your team, you ordered the execution of all the surviving crew members as per standard Imperial procedures. As the crew was lined up against the wall by the firing squad, two of the crew mates accept that it's the end and silently look into each other's eyes and hold hands. It is is as [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments touching]] as it is [[TearJerker sad]], and either makes you feel like a monster, or [[RandomNumberGod curse the social dices]] for letting a dark-sided character win the roll.
* The ultimate fate of Revan in the game is both heartbreaking and rage-inducing. He is rescued from his centuries-long imprisonment by Republic players only to attempt to save the galaxy by wiping out the Sith species, otherwise known as around 97% of the Imperial population. Imperial players are sent to take him down, and as he (seemingly) dies, he echoes Malak's last words on how he is beyond redemption. PlayerPunch doesn't even begin to cover how much this sucks for fans of the old games.
** The Foundry: Especially for the lightside players, but seeing how far Revan has fallen, to his monstrous plan to kill most of the Sith Empire... an awful lot of lines are desperate attempts to persuade him that he's been corrupted, all to no avail. And then his [[IronicEcho final words.]]
** It gets worse: only his light side half let go and died. His dark side half still survived and went even more insane. He takes personal command of his cult and begins a ritual to ''[[WhatTheHellHero give the incorporeal Emperor a body]]'' in order to ostensibly kill him once and for all.
** And to drive the nail''even goddamn further,'' the theme playing in the background isn't anything sounding Jedi-like, but instead sounding much closer to a Sith. It's a stripped down DarkReprise of the character creation screen from the first game.
** Basically, [[Manga/TokyoGhoul if, for argument's sake, you were to write a story with Revan as the lead role,]] [[ShootTheShaggyDog it would most certainly be a tragedy.]]
---> '''Revan''': [[TearJerker And in the end, as the darkness takes me, I am nothing.]] [[PlayerPunch Now I know how you felt,]] [[VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic my friend.]]
** And for anyone who romanced Bastila or Carth Onasi as a Light-sided male or female Revan from KOTOR I, it's an extra gut-puncher because if you play KOTOR II, they're both waiting for Revan to come back, and have no idea that they were imprisoned by the Sith Emperor. Carth and Bastila waited for their lover to come home to them, and died without seeing them again.

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* The Dark-sided Dark Side ending for the 'Boarding Party' Imperial Flashpoint. After capturing the Republic cruiser with your team, you ordered the execution of all the surviving crew members as per standard Imperial procedures. As the crew was lined up against the wall by the firing squad, two of the crew mates accept that it's the end and silently look into each other's eyes and hold hands. It is is as [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments touching]] as it is [[TearJerker sad]], and either makes you feel like a monster, or [[RandomNumberGod curse the social dices]] for letting a dark-sided character win the roll. \n* The ultimate fate of Revan in the game is both heartbreaking and rage-inducing. He is rescued from his centuries-long imprisonment by Republic players only to attempt to save the galaxy by wiping out the Sith species, otherwise known as around 97% of the Imperial population. Imperial players are sent to take him down, and as he (seemingly) dies, he echoes Malak's last words on how he is beyond redemption. PlayerPunch doesn't even begin to cover how much this sucks for fans of the old games.\n** The Foundry: Especially for the lightside players, but seeing how far Revan has fallen, to his monstrous plan to kill most of the Sith Empire... an awful lot of lines are desperate attempts to persuade him that he's been corrupted, all to no avail. And then his [[IronicEcho final words.]]\n** It gets worse: only his light side half let go and died. His dark side half still survived and went even more insane. He takes personal command of his cult and begins a ritual to ''[[WhatTheHellHero give the incorporeal Emperor a body]]'' in order to ostensibly kill him once and for all.\n** And to drive the nail''even goddamn further,'' the theme playing in the background isn't anything sounding Jedi-like, but instead sounding much closer to a Sith. It's a stripped down DarkReprise of the character creation screen from the first game. \n** Basically, [[Manga/TokyoGhoul if, for argument's sake, you were to write a story with Revan as the lead role,]] [[ShootTheShaggyDog it would most certainly be a tragedy.]]\n---> '''Revan''': [[TearJerker And in the end, as the darkness takes me, I am nothing.]] [[PlayerPunch Now I know how you felt,]] [[VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic my friend.]]\n** And for anyone who romanced Bastila or Carth Onasi as a Light-sided male or female Revan from KOTOR I, it's an extra gut-puncher because if you play KOTOR II, they're both waiting for Revan to come back, and have no idea that they were imprisoned by the Sith Emperor. Carth and Bastila waited for their lover to come home to them, and died without seeing them again.



* Romancing Lana Beniko as a Jedi. She really is the kind of NobleDemon a lightsided Imperial will end up being. She kindly brushes off all suggestions of defecting, or learning Jedi ways, but the two of you are really NotSoDifferent, and it ends with both of you acknowledging that, no matter how much you wish otherwise, you will likely have to be enemies when you meet again.

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* Romancing In the Shadow of Revan expansion, romancing Lana Beniko as a Jedi. She really is the kind of NobleDemon a lightsided Imperial will end up being. She kindly brushes off all suggestions of defecting, or learning Jedi ways, but the two of you are really NotSoDifferent, and it ends with both of you acknowledging that, no matter how much you wish otherwise, you will likely have to be enemies when you meet again.
* Romancing Theron Shan as an Imperial character is also bittersweet. "Soon as we rejoin the fleet and make the jump to lightspeed, that's it. No more truce. You and I, we probably won't exchange another word ever
again." His voice even sounds like it's cracking a bit near the end.



* Romancing Theron Shan as an Imperial character is also bittersweet. "Soon as we rejoin the fleet and make the jump to lightspeed, that's it. No more truce. You and I, we probably won't exchange another word ever again." His voice even sounds like it's cracking a bit near the end.
* In the new Rise of the Emperor content, every class gets to experience the stab of failure that the Jedi Knight got to back at the end of chapter 1, when Ziost, which all eight classes had fought so hard to save, has every ounce of life on it apparently consumed by the Emperor. Yay?
* The planet Alderaan itself is a total punch to the gut, especially to Lightsided players who actually do everything they can to help the place. You get to spend hours and hours wandering around seeing what a downright beautiful planet it was before Palpatine's Empire destroys it. It's a really eerie and depressing to run around a planet you know is going to be completely obliterated in a few thousand years.
* On board of the Foundry, after you've destroyed HK47, Revan comments: "That droid waited loyally for me for 300 years. I can rebuild him, but it won't be the same." Considering HK47's attitude toward ''meatbags'', it really brings home how much the original crew of the Ebon Hawk meant to each other, and how it has all been lost.

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* Romancing Theron Shan as an Imperial character is also bittersweet. "Soon as we rejoin the fleet and make the jump to lightspeed, that's it. No more truce. You and I, we probably won't exchange another word ever again." His voice even sounds like it's cracking a bit near the end.
* In the new Rise of the Emperor content,
On Ziost, every class gets to experience the same stab of failure that as the Jedi Knight got to back felt at the end of chapter 1, their first chapter, when Ziost, which all eight classes had fought so hard after everything they did to save, has try to save it, the Emperor consumes every ounce bit of life on it apparently consumed by the Emperor.planet. Yay?
* The planet Alderaan itself is a total punch to the gut, especially to Lightsided Light Side players who actually do everything they can to help the place. You get to spend hours and hours wandering around seeing what a downright beautiful planet it was before Palpatine's Empire destroys it. It's a really eerie and depressing to run around a planet full of history and natural beauty that you know is going to be completely obliterated in a few thousand years.
* On board of the Foundry, after you've destroyed HK47, Revan comments: "That droid waited loyally for me for 300 years. I can rebuild him, but it won't be the same." Considering HK47's attitude toward ''meatbags'', it really brings home how much the original crew of the Ebon Hawk meant to each other, and how it has all been lost.
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*** Also, imagine the look on Satele Shan's face when she not only hears that Tavus went bad, but also got killed for it. Good thing she never finds that out about the trooper player character, eh? Although one can see Satele getting pleased with a trooper character who managed to capture Tavus and bring him in alive.

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*** ** Also, imagine the look on Satele Shan's face when she not only hears that Tavus went bad, but also got killed for it. Good thing she never finds that out about the trooper player character, eh? Although one can see Satele getting pleased with a trooper character who managed to capture Tavus and bring him in alive.
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* The death of Darth Silthar on Tatooine. He's very rare for a Sith in that [[AFatherToHisMen he actually cares for the men under his command]] and it clearly hits them hard to hear.
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** The alternative explanation is perhaps even worse. Valls sais that he has foreseen that Theron is destined to succeed. It is possible that he full well knows what Theron is doing and deliberately [[HeroicSacrifice throws his life away]] to make sure Theron's cover stays intact. If so, the Outlander has just killed someone who was in reality an ally.
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** If you chose to sacrifice Vette, Gault sends you a letter afterwards, saying that it feels as though the galaxy has become a little bit darker. Considering his normal self-centered personality it is absolutely heart-breaking.
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** There's also the implication that Bessiker knows full well what an arrogant douchebag his son is, but is in denial about it.


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* In the confrontation with Darth Jadus, only one option allows the Agent to capture Jadus and prevent him from getting away: pretend to side with him in order to buy themselves time to disable his ship and signal the Imperial fleet. But in order to sell the deception and keep Jadus distracted, the Agent has to activate the Eradicators, sentencing an untold amount of Imperial civilians to death. Worse, as the Agent goes around sabotaging the ship, Jadus will "reward" them by playing panicked transmissions for help from those under assault.
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* The pure ''anguish'' in Light!Jaesa's confession to the Sith Warrior at the end of the Jedi Under Siege expansion. She pours her heart out to the warrior, talking about how she lost her center when they vanished, and how she had to turn off her power all this time or else she'd run off to find them. Gains an extra punch if playing as a female Sith Warrior in a [[MassEffect M!Shep/Kaiden sort of way]] because she's been holding onto these feelings for god knows how long, and has to spend ''years'' cut off from her power thinking that the Sith Warrior was the one that got away.

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* The pure ''anguish'' in Light!Jaesa's confession to the Sith Warrior at the end of the Jedi Under Siege expansion. She pours her heart out to the warrior, talking about how she lost her center when they vanished, and how she had to turn off her power all this time or else she'd run off to find them. Gains an extra punch if playing as a female Sith Warrior in a [[MassEffect [[Franchise/MassEffect M!Shep/Kaiden sort of way]] because she's been holding onto these feelings for god knows how long, and has to spend ''years'' cut off from her power thinking that the Sith Warrior was the one that got away.
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* Tayvor Slein from Chapter 10 considered Kaliyo a friend and honestly tried to protect her from the authorities who wanted to arrest her for her terrorist ways. Too bad for him, Kaliyo is, well, [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder Kaliyo]]. No matter what choices you make during your encounter with him, you will fight him, and you will kill him. [[KickTheDog And just to be a bitch about it]], the last thing Kaliyo does before he dies is tell him that his own daughter (reluctantly) had a hand in planning their break-in into Overwatch before he dies.

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* Tayvor Slein from Chapter 10 considered Kaliyo a friend and honestly tried to protect her from the authorities who wanted to arrest her for her terrorist ways. Too bad for him, Kaliyo is, well, [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder Kaliyo]]. No matter what choices you make during your encounter with him, you will fight him, and you will kill him. [[KickTheDog And just to be a bitch about it]], the last thing Kaliyo does before he dies is tell him that his own daughter (reluctantly) had a hand in planning their break-in into Overwatch before he dies.Overwatch.
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* Tayvor Slein from Chapter 10 considered Kaliyo a friend and honestly tried to protect her from the authorities who wanted to arrest her for her terrorist ways. Too bad for him, Kaliyo is, well, [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder Kaliyo]]. No matter what choices you make during your encounter with him, you will fight him, and you will kill him. [[KickTheDog And just to be a bitch about it]], the last thin Kaliyo does before he dies is tell him that his own daughter (reluctantly) had a hand in planning their break-in into Overwatch before he dies.

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* Tayvor Slein from Chapter 10 considered Kaliyo a friend and honestly tried to protect her from the authorities who wanted to arrest her for her terrorist ways. Too bad for him, Kaliyo is, well, [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder Kaliyo]]. No matter what choices you make during your encounter with him, you will fight him, and you will kill him. [[KickTheDog And just to be a bitch about it]], the last thin thing Kaliyo does before he dies is tell him that his own daughter (reluctantly) had a hand in planning their break-in into Overwatch before he dies.
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* Tayvor Slein from Chapter 10 considered Kaliyo a friend and honestly tried to protect her from the authorities who wanted to arrest her for her terrorist ways. Too bad for him, Kaliyo is, well, [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder Kaliyo]]. No matter what choices you make during your encounter with him, you will fight him, and you will kill him. [[KickTheDog And just to be a bitch about it]], the last thin Kaliyo does before he dies is tell him that his own daughter (reluctantly) had a hand in planning their break-in into Overwatch before he dies.
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* One of the very first quests in the Trooper's storyline involves them having to tell a Republic civilian that her husband, a Republic Agent who had access to critical intel regarding the bomb you've been sent to find, has been murdered. The wife is understandably completely devastated and quickly begins blaming you and the Republic in general for getting him killed. No matter how reassuring or understand your Trooper tries to be, the woman furiously condemns the Republic for sending her husband to his death, bitterly telling you to just take the notes he left behind and leave her alone.

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* One of the very first quests in the Trooper's storyline involves them having to tell a Republic civilian that her husband, a Republic Agent who had access to critical intel regarding the bomb you've been sent to find, has been murdered. The wife is understandably completely devastated and quickly begins blaming you and the Republic in general for getting him killed. No matter how reassuring or understand your Trooper tries to be, the woman furiously condemns the Republic for sending her husband to his death, bitterly telling you to just take the notes he left behind and leave her alone. Oh, and if you didn't advise her to get off Ord Mantell while she still can, she's gunned down by Separatists soon after you leave.
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* One of the very first quests in the Trooper's storyline involves them having to tell a Republic civilian that her husband, a Republic Agent who had access to critical intel regarding the bomb you've been sent to find, has been murdered. The wife is understandably completely devastated and quickly begins blaming you and the Republic in general for getting him killed. No matter how reassuring or understand your Trooper tries to be, the woman furiously condemns the Republic for sending her husband to his death, bitterly telling you to just take the notes he left behind and leave her alone.

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