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* LongTitle: "You Need a Mess of Help to Stand Alone". Fans generally just call it "Mess of Help" for short.
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* RefrainFromAssuming: The chant "Jai guru dev, jai…" in "All This Is That" is not a shout-out to "Across the Universe" from Music/TheBeatles' album ''Music/LetItBe''. "Jai guru dev, jai" is common chant in Hinduism and Hare Krishna.
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''Carl and the Passions – "So Tough"'' is the eighteenth studio album by Music/TheBeachBoys, released in 1972. It is their first album with Blondie Chaplin and [[Music/TheRutles Ricky Fataar]], and the first since the departure of Bruce Johnston -- although he appeared on "Marcella" before he quit. As a result, this is the Beach Boys album with the most members, with every member they ever had bar David Marks officially appearing on this album. Johnston would rejoin The Beach Boys permanently in 1978. This album is a major NewSoundAlbum, to the point where the casual fan would not realise this is The Beach Boys if they are not told who this is by. Music/EltonJohn is a known fan of this album, citing it as his favourite by The Beach Boys.

The title of this album is a ShoutOut to a band Carl Wilson was in when he was a teenager. Upon release, this album was a moderate success commercially and received generally positive reviews. However, in the US it was [[ExecutiveMeddling paired with]] ''Music/PetSounds'', which indicated the lack of confidence their record company, Creator/RepriseRecords, had with this album. Reprise would later reissue ''Pet Sounds'' on its own.

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''Carl and the Passions – "So Tough"'' is the eighteenth studio album by Music/TheBeachBoys, released in 1972. It is their first album with Blondie Chaplin and [[Music/TheRutles Ricky Fataar]], and the first since the departure of Bruce Johnston Music/BruceJohnston -- although he appeared on "Marcella" before he quit. As a result, this is the Beach Boys album with the most members, with every member they ever had bar David Marks officially appearing on this album. Johnston would rejoin The Beach Boys permanently in 1978. This album is a major NewSoundAlbum, to the point where the casual fan would not realise this is The Beach Boys if they are not told who this is by. Music/EltonJohn is a known fan of this album, citing it as his favourite by The Beach Boys.

The title of this album is a ShoutOut to a band Carl Wilson Music/CarlWilson was in when he was a teenager.teenager (although he didn't recall such a band to exist). Upon release, this album was a moderate success commercially and received generally positive reviews. However, in the US it was [[ExecutiveMeddling paired with]] ''Music/PetSounds'', which indicated the lack of confidence their record company, Creator/RepriseRecords, had with this album. Reprise would later reissue ''Pet Sounds'' on its own.



* Al Jardine - backing and co-lead vocals
* Bruce Johnston - vocals
* Mike Love - backing and co-lead vocals

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* Al Jardine Music/AlJardine - backing and co-lead vocals
* Bruce Johnston Music/BruceJohnston - vocals
* Mike Love Music/MikeLove - backing and co-lead vocals



* Carl Wilson - lead vocals, guitar, bass, piano

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* Carl Wilson Music/CarlWilson - lead vocals, guitar, bass, piano

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* [[AbsenteeActor Absentee Musician]]: Bruce Johnston, who quit the band shortly after the initial sessions for this album started. He only appears on "Marcella", contributing backing vocals.



* EtherealChoir: "All This Is That" has harmony singing that sounds much like this. The religious texts, "Jai guru dev, jai…" only add to the atmosphere.

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* EtherealChoir: "All This Is That" has harmony singing that sounds much like this. The religious texts, "Jai guru dev, jai…" jai..." only add to the atmosphere.
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* DarkerAndEdgier: "You Need A Mess of Help To Stand Alone" is very powerful heavy rock for the Beach Boys' standards

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* DarkerAndEdgier: "You Need A a Mess of Help To to Stand Alone" is very powerful heavy rock for by the Beach Boys' standardsstandards.



* LongTitle: "You Need A Mess Of Help to Stand Alone". Fans generally just call it "Mess Of Help" for short.

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* LongTitle: "You Need A a Mess Of of Help to Stand Alone". Fans generally just call it "Mess Of of Help" for short.



* RealLifeWritesThePlot: It is widely believed that "Hold On Dear Brother" was written in tribute to Music/BrianWilson, who was mentally going through a severe breakdown at the time.

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* RealLifeWritesThePlot: RealLifeWritesThePlot:
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It is widely believed that "Hold On Dear Brother" was written in tribute to Music/BrianWilson, who was mentally going through a severe breakdown at the time.



* RefrainFromAssuming: The chant "Jai guru dev, jai…" in "All This Is That" is not a shout-out to "Across The Universe" from Music/TheBeatles' album ''Music/LetItBe''. "Jai guru dev, jai" is common chant in Hinduism and Hare Krishna.

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* RefrainFromAssuming: The chant "Jai guru dev, jai…" in "All This Is That" is not a shout-out to "Across The the Universe" from Music/TheBeatles' album ''Music/LetItBe''. "Jai guru dev, jai" is common chant in Hinduism and Hare Krishna.
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* RealLifeWritesThePlot: It is widely believed that "Hold On Dear Brother" was written with Brian Wilson in mind, who was mentally going through a severe breakdown at the time.

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* RealLifeWritesThePlot: It is widely believed that "Hold On Dear Brother" was written with Brian Wilson in mind, tribute to Music/BrianWilson, who was mentally going through a severe breakdown at the time.
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--> ''This recording is pressed in monophonic sound, the way Brian cut it.''

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--> ---> ''This recording is pressed in monophonic sound, the way Brian cut it.''
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* SpecialGuest: Daryl Dragon -- best known from Music/CaptainAndTenille, as well as a former touring member of The Beach Boys -- co-wrote some of the ballads on this album with Music/DennisWilson.

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* SpecialGuest: Daryl Dragon -- best known from Music/CaptainAndTenille, Music/CaptainAndTennille, as well as a former touring member of The Beach Boys -- co-wrote some of the ballads on this album with Music/DennisWilson.
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Fan favourites include "You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone", "Marcella", "All This Is That" and "Cuddle Up".

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Fan favourites favorites include "You Need A a Mess Of of Help To to Stand Alone", "Marcella", "All This Is That" and "Cuddle Up".



* DarkerAndEdgier: "You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone" is very powerful heavy rock for the Beach Boys' standards.

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* DarkerAndEdgier: "You Need A Mess Of of Help To Stand Alone" is very powerful heavy rock for the Beach Boys' standards.standards



** The reason why Pet Sounds was included on the US release was solely because the only widely-available version at the time was the Duophonic (fake stereo) version of the album. It's even pointed out on the labels:

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** The reason why Pet Sounds ''Pet Sounds'' was included on the US release was solely because the only widely-available version at the time was the Duophonic (fake stereo) version of the album. It's even pointed out on the labels:



** Music/SaintEtienne named their 1993 album ''So Tough'' as a homage to The Beach Boys. That same year, they named their compilation ''You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone''.
* SpecialGuest: Daryl Dragon, best known from Captain And Tenille - as well as a former touring member of The Beach Boys, co-wrote some of the ballads on this album with Music/DennisWilson.

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** Music/SaintEtienne named their 1993 album ''So Tough'' as a homage to The Beach Boys. That same year, they named their compilation ''You Need A a Mess Of of Help To to Stand Alone''.
* SpecialGuest: Daryl Dragon, Dragon -- best known from Captain And Tenille - Music/CaptainAndTenille, as well as a former touring member of The Beach Boys, Boys -- co-wrote some of the ballads on this album with Music/DennisWilson.
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''Carl and the Passions - "So Tough"'' is the eighteenth studio album by Music/TheBeachBoys, released in 1972. It is their first album with Blondie Chaplin and [[Music/TheRutles Ricky Fataar]], and the first since the departure of Bruce Johnston -- although he appeared on "Marcella" before he quit. As a result, this is the Beach Boys album with the most members, with every member they ever had bar David Marks officially appearing on this album. Johnston would rejoin The Beach Boys permanently in 1978. This album is a major NewSoundAlbum, to the point where the casual fan would not realise this is The Beach Boys if they are not told who this is by. Music/EltonJohn is a known fan of this album, citing it as his favourite by The Beach Boys.

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''Carl and the Passions - "So Tough"'' is the eighteenth studio album by Music/TheBeachBoys, released in 1972. It is their first album with Blondie Chaplin and [[Music/TheRutles Ricky Fataar]], and the first since the departure of Bruce Johnston -- although he appeared on "Marcella" before he quit. As a result, this is the Beach Boys album with the most members, with every member they ever had bar David Marks officially appearing on this album. Johnston would rejoin The Beach Boys permanently in 1978. This album is a major NewSoundAlbum, to the point where the casual fan would not realise this is The Beach Boys if they are not told who this is by. Music/EltonJohn is a known fan of this album, citing it as his favourite by The Beach Boys.
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''Carl and the Passions - "So Tough"'' is the eighteenth studio album by Music/TheBeachBoys, released in 1972. It is their first album with Blondie Chaplin and [[Music/TheRutles Ricky Fataar]], and the first since the departure of Bruce Johnston - although he appeared on "Marcella" before he quit. As a result, this is the Beach Boys album with the most members, with every member they ever had bar David Marks officially appearing on this album. Johnston would rejoin The Beach Boys permanently in 1978. This album is a major NewSoundAlbum, to the point where the casual fan would not realise this is The Beach Boys if they are not told who this is by. Music/EltonJohn is a known fan of this album, citing it as his favourite by The Beach Boys.

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''Carl and the Passions - "So Tough"'' is the eighteenth studio album by Music/TheBeachBoys, released in 1972. It is their first album with Blondie Chaplin and [[Music/TheRutles Ricky Fataar]], and the first since the departure of Bruce Johnston - -- although he appeared on "Marcella" before he quit. As a result, this is the Beach Boys album with the most members, with every member they ever had bar David Marks officially appearing on this album. Johnston would rejoin The Beach Boys permanently in 1978. This album is a major NewSoundAlbum, to the point where the casual fan would not realise this is The Beach Boys if they are not told who this is by. Music/EltonJohn is a known fan of this album, citing it as his favourite by The Beach Boys.



# "You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone" (3:27)

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''Carl And The Passions - "So Tough"'' is the eighteenth studio album by Music/TheBeachBoys, released in 1972. It is their first album with Blondie Chaplin and [[Music/TheRutles Ricky Fataar]], and the first since the departure of Bruce Johnston - although he appeared on "Marcella" before he quit. As a result, this is the Beach Boys album with the most members, with every member they ever had bar David Marks officially appearing on this album. Johnston would rejoin The Beach Boys permanently in 1978. This album is a major NewSoundAlbum, to the point where the casual fan would not realise this is The Beach Boys if they are not told who this is by. Music/EltonJohn is a known fan of this album, citing it as his favourite by The Beach Boys.

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''Carl And The and the Passions - "So Tough"'' is the eighteenth studio album by Music/TheBeachBoys, released in 1972. It is their first album with Blondie Chaplin and [[Music/TheRutles Ricky Fataar]], and the first since the departure of Bruce Johnston - although he appeared on "Marcella" before he quit. As a result, this is the Beach Boys album with the most members, with every member they ever had bar David Marks officially appearing on this album. Johnston would rejoin The Beach Boys permanently in 1978. This album is a major NewSoundAlbum, to the point where the casual fan would not realise this is The Beach Boys if they are not told who this is by. Music/EltonJohn is a known fan of this album, citing it as his favourite by The Beach Boys.
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The title of this album is a ShoutOut to a band Carl Wilson was in when he was a teenager. Upon release, this album was a moderate success commercially and received generally positive reviews. However, in the US it was [[ExecutiveMeddling paired with]] ''Music/PetSounds'', which indicated the lack of confidence their record company had with this album.

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The title of this album is a ShoutOut to a band Carl Wilson was in when he was a teenager. Upon release, this album was a moderate success commercially and received generally positive reviews. However, in the US it was [[ExecutiveMeddling paired with]] ''Music/PetSounds'', which indicated the lack of confidence their record company company, Creator/RepriseRecords, had with this album.
album. Reprise would later reissue ''Pet Sounds'' on its own.
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** The reason why Pet Sounds was included on the US release was solely because the only widely-available version at the time was the Duophonic (fake stereo) version of the album. It's even pointed out on the labels:
--> ''This recording is pressed in monophonic sound, the way Brian cut it.''
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''Carl And The Passions - "So Tough'' is the eighteenth studio album by Music/TheBeachBoys, released in 1972. It is their first album with Blondie Chaplin and [[Music/TheRutles Ricky Fataar]], and the first since the departure of Bruce Johnston - although he appeared on "Marcella" before he quit. As a result, this is the Beach Boys album with the most members, with every member they ever had bar David Marks officially appearing on this album. Johnston would rejoin The Beach Boys permanently in 1978. This album is a major NewSoundAlbum, to the point where the casual fan would not realise this is The Beach Boys if they are not told who this is by. Music/EltonJohn is a known fan of this album, citing it as his favourite by The Beach Boys.

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''Carl And The Passions - "So Tough'' Tough"'' is the eighteenth studio album by Music/TheBeachBoys, released in 1972. It is their first album with Blondie Chaplin and [[Music/TheRutles Ricky Fataar]], and the first since the departure of Bruce Johnston - although he appeared on "Marcella" before he quit. As a result, this is the Beach Boys album with the most members, with every member they ever had bar David Marks officially appearing on this album. Johnston would rejoin The Beach Boys permanently in 1978. This album is a major NewSoundAlbum, to the point where the casual fan would not realise this is The Beach Boys if they are not told who this is by. Music/EltonJohn is a known fan of this album, citing it as his favourite by The Beach Boys.
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'''''Carl And The Passions - "So Tough"''''' is the eighteenth studio album by Music/TheBeachBoys, released in 1972. It is their first album with Blondie Chaplin and [[Music/TheRutles Ricky Fataar]], and the first since the departure of Bruce Johnston - although he appeared on "Marcella" before he quit. As a result, this is the Beach Boys album with the most members, with every member they ever had bar David Marks officially appearing on this album. Johnston would rejoin The Beach Boys permanently in 1978. This album is a major NewSoundAlbum, to the point where the casual fan would not realise this is The Beach Boys if they are not told who this is by. Music/EltonJohn is a known fan of this album, citing it as his favourite by The Beach Boys.

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\n'''''Carl ''Carl And The Passions - "So Tough"''''' Tough'' is the eighteenth studio album by Music/TheBeachBoys, released in 1972. It is their first album with Blondie Chaplin and [[Music/TheRutles Ricky Fataar]], and the first since the departure of Bruce Johnston - although he appeared on "Marcella" before he quit. As a result, this is the Beach Boys album with the most members, with every member they ever had bar David Marks officially appearing on this album. Johnston would rejoin The Beach Boys permanently in 1978. This album is a major NewSoundAlbum, to the point where the casual fan would not realise this is The Beach Boys if they are not told who this is by. Music/EltonJohn is a known fan of this album, citing it as his favourite by The Beach Boys.
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* SpecialGuest: Daryl Dragon, best known from Captain & Tenille, co-wrote some of the ballads on this album with Music/DennisWilson.

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* SpecialGuest: Daryl Dragon, best known from Captain & Tenille, And Tenille - as well as a former touring member of The Beach Boys, co-wrote some of the ballads on this album with Music/DennisWilson.

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[[caption-width-right:300:''Carl And The Passions - "So Tough"''.]]

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* ExecutiveMeddling: Their record company in the US chose to pair the album with ''Music/PetSounds'', which arguably did damage to this album's reputation.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: Their record company in DarkerAndEdgier: "You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone" is very powerful heavy rock for the US chose Beach Boys' standards.
* EtherealChoir: "All This Is That" has harmony singing that sounds much like this. The religious texts, "Jai guru dev, jai…" only add
to pair the album with ''Music/PetSounds'', which arguably did damage to this album's reputation.atmosphere.



* GodIsLoveSongs: "He Came Down" is a song that praise God, the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and Krishna.
--> ''People have you heard of the world plan''
--> ''To know the inner nature of every man''
--> ''Jesus came down to save the world from sin''
--> ''Sayin' "Seek ye first the kingdom within"''



* PepTalkSong:
** "Make It Good", where the protagonist cheers a sad woman up and tells her he'll stay with her.
** "Hold On Dear Brother"
--> ''What can I love that isn't you''
--> ''But you never understand inside of me''
--> ''Till you realize a look''
--> ''You never get more than you took''
--> ''Won't you please''
--> ''Hold on dear Brother''
* ThePowerOfLove:
** "All This Is That"
--> ''Golden auras glow around you''
--> ''Omnipresent love surrounds you''
--> ''Wisdom warming as the sun''
--> ''You and I are truly one''
** "Cuddle Up"
--> ''I know a man who's so in love ... the night has come.... cuddle up to me''
--> ''Keep warm, close to me''
* RealLifeWritesThePlot: It is widely believed that "Hold On Dear Brother" was written with Brian Wilson in mind, who was mentally going through a severe breakdown at the time.
* RefrainFromAssuming: The chant "Jai guru dev, jai…" in "All This Is That" is not a shout-out to "Across The Universe" from Music/TheBeatles' album ''Music/LetItBe''. "Jai guru dev, jai" is common chant in Hinduism and Hare Krishna.




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* SpecialGuest: Daryl Dragon, best known from Captain & Tenille, co-wrote some of the ballads on this album with Music/DennisWilson.
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* Dennis Wilson - lead vocals, piano

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* Dennis Wilson Music/DennisWilson - lead vocals, piano

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# "You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone"
# "Here She Comes"
# "He Come Down"
# "Marcella"
# "Hold On Dear Brother"
# "Make It Good"
# "All This Is That"
# "Cuddle Up"

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[[AC: Side One]]

# "You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone"
Alone" (3:27)
# "Here She Comes"
Comes" (5:10)
# "He Come Down"
Down" (4:41)
# "Marcella"
"Marcella" (3:54)

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# "Hold On Dear Brother"
Brother" (4:43)
# "Make It Good"
Good" (2:36)
# "All This Is That"
That" (4:00)
# "Cuddle Up"
Up" (5:30)



* NewSoundAlbum: The album! A complete change of sound to a style not so different from the likes of Music/TheBand, Music/SteelyDan and Music/FleetwoodMac.

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* NewSoundAlbum: The album! A complete change of sound to a style not so different from the likes of Music/TheBand, Music/TheGratefulDead, Music/SteelyDan and Music/FleetwoodMac.
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* NewSoundAlbum: The album! A complete change of sound to a style not so different from the likes of Music/The Band, Music/SteelyDan and Music/FleetwoodMac.

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* NewSoundAlbum: The album! A complete change of sound to a style not so different from the likes of Music/The Band, Music/TheBand, Music/SteelyDan and Music/FleetwoodMac.
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* NewSoundAlbum: The album! A complete change of sound to a style not so different from the likes of Music/SteelyDan and Music/FleetwoodMac.

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* NewSoundAlbum: The album! A complete change of sound to a style not so different from the likes of Music/The Band, Music/SteelyDan and Music/FleetwoodMac.
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* Brian Wilson - vocals, piano, percussion

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'''''Carl And The Passions - "So Tough"''''' is the eighteenth studio album by Music/TheBeachBoys, released in 1972. It is their first album with Blondie Chaplin and [[Music/TheRutles Ricky Fataar]], and the first since the departure of Bruce Johnston - although he appeared on "Marcella" before he quit. As a result, this is the Beach Boys album with the most members, with every member they ever had bar David Marks officially appearing on this album. Johnston would rejoin The Beach Boys permanently in 1978. This album is a major NewSoundAlbum, to the point where the casual fan would not realise this is The Beach Boys if they are not told who this is by. Music/EltonJohn is a known fan of this album, citing it as his favourite by The Beach Boys.

The title of this album is a ShoutOut to a band Carl Wilson was in when he was a teenager. Upon release, this album was a moderate success commercially and received generally positive reviews. However, in the US it was [[ExecutiveMeddling paired with]] ''Music/PetSounds'', which indicated the lack of confidence their record company had with this album.

Fan favourites include "You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone", "Marcella", "All This Is That" and "Cuddle Up".

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!! Tracklist:

# "You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone"
# "Here She Comes"
# "He Come Down"
# "Marcella"
# "Hold On Dear Brother"
# "Make It Good"
# "All This Is That"
# "Cuddle Up"

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!!Principal Members:

* Blondie Chaplin - lead vocals, guitar, bass
* [[Music/TheRutles Ricky Fataar]] - drums, backing and co-lead vocals
* Al Jardine - backing and co-lead vocals
* Bruce Johnston - vocals
* Mike Love - backing and co-lead vocals
* Brian Wilson - vocals, piano, percussion
* Carl Wilson - lead vocals, guitar, bass, piano
* Dennis Wilson - lead vocals, piano

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!! You Need A Mess Of Help To Trope Alone:

* [[AbsenteeActor Absentee Musician]]: Bruce Johnston, who quit the band shortly after the initial sessions for this album started. He only appears on "Marcella", contributing backing vocals.
* ExecutiveMeddling: Their record company in the US chose to pair the album with ''Music/PetSounds'', which arguably did damage to this album's reputation.
* GenreRoulette: Includes Roots Rock, Hard Rock, Gospel, Soul, Blues Rock, Rhythm And Blues, etc.
* LongTitle: "You Need A Mess Of Help to Stand Alone". Fans generally just call it "Mess Of Help" for short.
* MythologyGag: This album partially gets its name from one of the bands Carl Wilson had formed in school prior to The Beach Boys.
* NewSoundAlbum: The album! A complete change of sound to a style not so different from the likes of Music/SteelyDan and Music/FleetwoodMac.
* OneWomanSong: "Marcella".
* ShoutOut:
** The album title to a band which a teen-aged Carl Wilson was a member of.
** Music/SaintEtienne named their 1993 album ''So Tough'' as a homage to The Beach Boys. That same year, they named their compilation ''You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone''.

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