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* ''Film/ShatteredGlass'': Every time Glass pitches one of his exciting but false stories, he inevitably ends by mumbling something along the lines of "I know, it's terrible, I'm probably not gonna do anything about it." People think he's just being modest, but it becomes clear that he's actually doing this.
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This is a common tactic of the ShrinkingViolet - though in their case, the line between this trope and HeroicSelfDeprecation is often very thin indeed. Subtle {{Attention Whore}}s also love this trope, as it lets them bask in pity-praise without having to directly toot their own horn. It's also a good strategic move in PassiveAggressiveKombat and PolitenessJudo.

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This is a common tactic of the ShrinkingViolet - though in their case, the line between this trope and HeroicSelfDeprecation ChronicSelfDeprecation is often very thin indeed. Subtle {{Attention Whore}}s also love this trope, as it lets them bask in pity-praise without having to directly toot their own horn. It's also a good strategic move in PassiveAggressiveKombat and PolitenessJudo.



A SubTrope of SelfDeprecation, and the dishonest, manipulative [[SisterTrope little sister]] of [[HeroicSelfDeprecation the heroic form]], though both can result from the same base feeling of self-loathing and can be ''very'' hard to distinguish from each other. Compare and contrast SuspiciouslySpecificDenial. If two people try this at once, it can lead to OuthumblingEachOther.

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A SubTrope of SelfDeprecation, and the dishonest, manipulative [[SisterTrope little sister]] of [[HeroicSelfDeprecation [[ChronicSelfDeprecation the heroic chronic form]], though both can result from the same base feeling of self-loathing and can be ''very'' hard to distinguish from each other. Compare and contrast SuspiciouslySpecificDenial. If two people try this at once, it can lead to OuthumblingEachOther.
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* ''Webcomic/MoringMarkTOHComics'': One strip features Hunter [[FakingTheDead faking his death]] in order to hear what his mourning friends will say about him. Unfortunately for him, Luz catches on and winds up slapping him to expose the ruse.


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** "Evillustrator" has a PlotParallel to the above moment when Adrien asks Marinette about her latest encounter with Chat Noir. Again, it backfires: Marinette tearfully declares how ''awful'' it was due to how Chat Noir forced her to promise to avoid getting involved with any other akumas:
--->'''Adrien:''' ''(winking flirtatiously)'' So, I hear you had another Chat Noir encounter~\\
'''Marinette:''' ''(shaking and sobbing)'' Yeah! It sucked!\\
'''Adrien:''' Oh god! Why?!\\
'''Marinette:''' I promised to stay out of akuma fights!\\
'''Adrien:''' Isn't that a good thing?!\\
'''Marinette:''' '''NO''' cuz now Chat Noir has no one to rely on because Scarlet Lady is the ''worst!''
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* ''Fanfic/TheDeathGodAlliance'' exaggerates this for comic effect when Bast outright ''orders'' Percy to pay her compliments.
* ''Fanfic/MiraculousTwoWeeks'': When Marinette admits to Adrien that she had a dream about kissing Chat Noir, he asks if that was the best part.


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* At one point in ''Fanfic/SnapesWorstMemory'', Lily asks him "You don't think I'm getting too fat, do you, Sev?" Snape muses to himself that her phrasing makes clear that she's ''aware'' that she's gaining weight, wondering why she's bothered to ask him about it.

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* ''Manga/OnePiece'': Diamante is constantly fishing for compliments from [[TheChessmaster Doflamingo]] to a ridiculous extent. Doflamingo goes along with it, possibly to [[ManipulativeBastard better motivate Diamante]].
* ''Anime/Danganronpa3TheEndOfHopesPeakHighSchool: Side Despair'': Gundham reassures everyone that his pet bear will only bite high-ranked demons. Sonia, who has a crush on Gundham, indignantly asks if he means that she's a demon of low rank. Of course, since both of them are perfectly human and just like to pretend otherwise, it's clear Gundham ''didn't'' mean that and she knows it.



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-->'''Romeo:''' ''[warmly]'' ''(warmly)'' Teria... [[BrutalHonesty If you can't swim, then don't do it!]]it!]]
* ''Anime/Danganronpa3TheEndOfHopesPeakHighSchool: Side Despair'': Gundham reassures everyone that his pet bear will only bite high-ranked demons. Sonia, who has a crush on Gundham, indignantly asks if he means that she's a demon of low rank. Of course, since both of them are perfectly human and just like to pretend otherwise, it's clear Gundham ''didn't'' mean that and she knows it.
* ''Manga/OnePiece'': Diamante is constantly fishing for compliments from [[TheChessmaster Doflamingo]] to a ridiculous extent. Doflamingo goes along with it, possibly to [[ManipulativeBastard better motivate Diamante]].



* ''Webcomic/ScarletLady'': While practicing together for the [=UMS3=] tournament in "Gamer", Adrien compliments Marinette's skills while claiming that they only won thanks to her and that he's 'nothing compared to [her].' Rather than comforting him, Marinette responds that it honestly makes sense that he's not as good at co-op, as he's only ever played by himself and doesn't have any experience working with a partner.

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* ''Webcomic/ScarletLady'': ''Webcomic/ScarletLady'':
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While practicing together for the [=UMS3=] tournament in "Gamer", "The Gamer", Adrien compliments Marinette's skills while claiming that they only won thanks to her and that he's 'nothing compared to [her].' Rather than comforting him, Marinette responds that it honestly makes sense that he's not as good at co-op, as he's only ever played by himself and doesn't have any experience working with a partner.partner.
** In "Simon Says", Scarlet Lady takes advantage of the titular akuma targeting Gabriel to appoint herself as Adrien's "bodyguard". The next day at school, she tries to get Adrien to praise her "[[NominalHero heroic]]" alter ego, only for him to make clear how unimpressed he was.
--->'''Chloé:''' Adrihoney~! I heard you got visited by the '''amazing''' Scarlet Lady.\\
'''Adrien:''' Ugh, yeah, and I have the eyebags to prove it.\\
'''Chloé:''' Soooo? Isn't she ultra fab? Don't you just ''love'' her?\\
'''Adrien:''' [[NoJustNo Ew. No.]]\\
'''Caption:''' This answer will be dutifully '''ignored''' on the basis that [[IRejectYourReality it wasn't the one Chloe wanted to hear]].



* In ''Film/MeanGirls'', Regina mentions at the Plastics' lunch table that she needs to lose a few pounds. She then stares expectantly at Gretchen and Karen, who immediately start complimenting how skinny she is.



* In ''Film/MeanGirls'', Regina mentions at the Plastics' lunch table that she needs to lose a few pounds. She then stares expectantly at Gretchen and Karen, who immediately start complimenting how skinny she is.



* In ''Literature/AChristmasCarol'', Mrs. Cratchit is terribly nervous that her Christmas pudding won't be good enough, but her family tells her it's wonderful.
* The ''Series/DoctorWho'' Literature/EighthDoctorAdventures novel ''Vanishing Point'' features a scene where a [[UglyCute deformed-but-still-attractive]] [[TheIngenue Ingenue]] has a heart-to-heart with Fitz, the Doctor's companion and a ChivalrousPervert. He accuses her of doing this, but she seems to genuinely mean what she's saying about herself:
-->'No one would wish to. I am deformed. I am ugly.'\\
'Are you fishing, here, by any chance?'\\
She laughed at him. 'Fishing?'\\
'For compliments, I mean,' Fitz said. 'Look, Vettul, if it helps, you're not ugly... I mean, you're...' He felt himself growing flustered.



* In ''Literature/SquidsWillBeSquids'', one of the fables has a pigeon doing this.



* ''LightNovel/TheIrregularAtMagicHighSchool'':
** Miyuki asks Tatsuya if a particular hairpin looks good on her. Being rather socially blunt, Tatsuya obliviously replies that there's a mirror close by.
** Maya laments that she became too emotional during [[spoiler:her MotiveRant]], and Hayama comfortingly agrees that she ''was'', but getting a bit overwrought was unavoidable. Maya pouts, implying that this was not what she wanted him to say.



-->'''Fiance:''' It just needs a little sauce! ''[Pours soy sauce all over the dish]''\\
'''Family:''' ''[Appalled silence]''
* In ''Literature/AChristmasCarol'', Mrs. Cratchit is terribly nervous that her Christmas pudding won't be good enough, but her family tells her it's wonderful.
* The ''Series/DoctorWho'' Literature/EighthDoctorAdventures novel ''Vanishing Point'' features a scene where a [[UglyCute deformed-but-still-attractive]] [[TheIngenue Ingenue]] has a heart-to-heart with Fitz, the Doctor's companion and a ChivalrousPervert. He accuses her of doing this, but she seems to genuinely mean what she's saying about herself:
-->'No one would wish to. I am deformed. I am ugly.'\\
'Are you fishing, here, by any chance?'\\
She laughed at him. 'Fishing?'\\
'For compliments, I mean,' Fitz said. 'Look, Vettul, if it helps, you're not ugly... I mean, you're...' He felt himself growing flustered.

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-->'''Fiance:''' It just needs a little sauce! ''[Pours ''(Pours soy sauce all over the dish]''\\
dish)''\\
'''Family:''' ''[Appalled silence]''
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* In ''Literature/AChristmasCarol'', Mrs. Cratchit is terribly nervous that her Christmas pudding won't be good enough, but her family tells her it's wonderful.
* The ''Series/DoctorWho'' Literature/EighthDoctorAdventures novel ''Vanishing Point'' features a scene where a [[UglyCute deformed-but-still-attractive]] [[TheIngenue Ingenue]]
''Literature/SquidsWillBeSquids'', one of the fables has a heart-to-heart with Fitz, the Doctor's companion and a ChivalrousPervert. He accuses her of pigeon doing this, but she seems to genuinely mean what she's saying about herself:
-->'No one would wish to. I am deformed. I am ugly.'\\
'Are you fishing, here, by any chance?'\\
She laughed at him. 'Fishing?'\\
'For compliments, I mean,' Fitz said. 'Look, Vettul, if it helps, you're not ugly... I mean, you're...' He felt himself growing flustered.
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* ''LightNovel/TheIrregularAtMagicHighSchool'':
** Miyuki asks Tatsuya if a particular hairpin looks good on her. Being rather socially blunt, Tatsuya obliviously replies that there's a mirror close by.
** Maya laments that she became too emotional during [[spoiler:her MotiveRant]], and Hayama comfortingly agrees that she ''was'', but getting a bit overwrought was unavoidable. Maya pouts, implying that this was not what she wanted him to say.



* In the ''Series/{{Community}}'' episode "Abed's Uncontrollable Christmas", the study group are debating why Abed has chosen to give them certain toy characters in his Christmas fantasy dreamworld. Annie, who has been made a clockwork ballerina, suggests that he's just given them random characters, coyly adding that "it's not like I'm ''that'' thin and graceful... right?" Much to her dismay, Britta caustically suggests that she's instead been given that role because she's "fragile and tightly wound."



* In the ''Series/{{Community}}'' episode "Abed's Uncontrollable Christmas", the study group are debating why Abed has chosen to give them certain toy characters in his Christmas fantasy dreamworld. Annie, who has been made a clockwork ballerina, suggests that he's just given them random characters, coyly adding that "it's not like I'm ''that'' thin and graceful... right?" Much to her dismay, Britta caustically suggests that she's instead been given that role because she's "fragile and tightly wound."
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* It's something of a RunningGag on the Internet for a person to post a sexy picture of themselves with a self-deprecating comment, only for everyone to [[ComplimentBackfire respond]] with lavish praise on [[NotDistractedByTheSexy some insignificant item in the background]]. Notably, that's how the [[MemeticMutation "Get Out" Frog meme]] got its start when people found it in [[http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/088/535/frog.jpg this picture]], never mind about the model!
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* ''WesternAnimation/ThePatrickStarShow'': Parodied in "[[Recap/ThePatrickStarShowS1E15UncredibleJourneyHostAPalooza Host-a-Palooza]]". [=GrandPat=] and Cecil are in a fishing contest, and they throw their fishing lines around randomly around the room. They finally hook each other, leading them to stop their feud and compliment each other. Squidina asks what they were trying to catch; they tell her that they were "[[LiteralMetaphor fishing for compliments]]". [[LamePunReaction Squidina groans]].
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This can [[ComplimentBackfire backfire]] very badly for the compliment fisher if people respond by ''[[GoneHorriblyRight agreeing]]'' with them. ("It's OK, we love you even though you're a bad writer.") If someone does that on purpose, it's probably a form of BackhandedCompliment. People with particularly bad cases of self-loathing may even ''prefer'' this type of response, confirming and mentally justifying their own negative perception of themself.

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This can [[ComplimentBackfire backfire]] [[ReversePsychologyBackfire very badly badly]] for the compliment fisher if people respond by ''[[GoneHorriblyRight agreeing]]'' with them. ("It's OK, we love you even though you're a bad writer.") If someone does that on purpose, it's probably a form of BackhandedCompliment. People with particularly bad cases of self-loathing may even ''prefer'' this type of response, confirming and mentally justifying their own negative perception of themself.
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A SubTrope of SelfDeprecation, and the dishonest, manipulative [[SisterTrope little sister]] of [[HeroicSelfDeprecation the heroic form]], though both can result from the base feeling of self-loathing. Compare and contrast SuspiciouslySpecificDenial. If two people try this at once, it can lead to OuthumblingEachOther.

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A SubTrope of SelfDeprecation, and the dishonest, manipulative [[SisterTrope little sister]] of [[HeroicSelfDeprecation the heroic form]], though both can result from the same base feeling of self-loathing.self-loathing and can be ''very'' hard to distinguish from each other. Compare and contrast SuspiciouslySpecificDenial. If two people try this at once, it can lead to OuthumblingEachOther.

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Buddy, you do know people with anxiety and self-esteem issues do exist and need validation, right? Also, we don't have to point out that people do this IRL.


This is a common tactic of the ShrinkingViolet - or, at least, the writers who make her say these things. Presumably they think it's endearing. Subtle {{Attention Whore}}s also love this trope, as it lets them bask in pity-praise without having to directly toot their own horn. It's also a good strategic move in PassiveAggressiveKombat and PolitenessJudo.

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This is a common tactic of the ShrinkingViolet - or, at least, though in their case, the writers who make her say these things. Presumably they think it's endearing.line between this trope and HeroicSelfDeprecation is often very thin indeed. Subtle {{Attention Whore}}s also love this trope, as it lets them bask in pity-praise without having to directly toot their own horn. It's also a good strategic move in PassiveAggressiveKombat and PolitenessJudo.



A SubTrope of SelfDeprecation, and the dishonest, manipulative [[SisterTrope little sister]] of [[HeroicSelfDeprecation the heroic form]]. Compare and contrast SuspiciouslySpecificDenial. If two people try this at once, it can lead to OuthumblingEachOther.

This is a pretty common TruthInTelevision.

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A SubTrope of SelfDeprecation, and the dishonest, manipulative [[SisterTrope little sister]] of [[HeroicSelfDeprecation the heroic form]].form]], though both can result from the base feeling of self-loathing. Compare and contrast SuspiciouslySpecificDenial. If two people try this at once, it can lead to OuthumblingEachOther.

This is a pretty common TruthInTelevision.
OuthumblingEachOther.
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* In ''Manga/OnePiece'', Diamante is constantly fishing for compliments from [[TheChessmaster Doflamingo]] to a [[UpToEleven ridiculous extent]]. Doflamingo goes along with it, possibly to [[ManipulativeBastard better motivate Diamante]].
* In ''Anime/Danganronpa3TheEndOfHopesPeakHighSchool: Side Despair'', Gundham reassures everyone that his pet bear will only bite high-ranked demons. Sonia, who has a crush on Gundham, indignantly asks if he means that she's a demon of low rank. Of course, since both of them are perfectly human and just like to pretend otherwise, it's clear Gundham ''didn't'' mean that and she knows it.

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* In ''Manga/OnePiece'', ''Manga/OnePiece'': Diamante is constantly fishing for compliments from [[TheChessmaster Doflamingo]] to a [[UpToEleven ridiculous extent]].extent. Doflamingo goes along with it, possibly to [[ManipulativeBastard better motivate Diamante]].
* In ''Anime/Danganronpa3TheEndOfHopesPeakHighSchool: Side Despair'', Despair'': Gundham reassures everyone that his pet bear will only bite high-ranked demons. Sonia, who has a crush on Gundham, indignantly asks if he means that she's a demon of low rank. Of course, since both of them are perfectly human and just like to pretend otherwise, it's clear Gundham ''didn't'' mean that and she knows it.
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Speculative of a real life person's motive.


* Creator/HPLovecraft was forever deprecating his own work, usually in letters to his friends, but also in the submission letter he wrote the first time he submitted his work to a paying magazine! One cannot help feeling he was hoping to be contradicted... after all, if he really thought his ability was so low, why did he hire himself out rewriting other authors' works?
** Perhaps he thought "I might be bad, but I'm better than these hacks"?

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* In ''[[LightNovel/TheIrregularAtMagicHighSchool The Honor Student At Magic High School]]'', Miyuki asks Tatsuya if a particular hairpin looks good on her. Being rather socially blunt, Tatsuya obliviously replies that there's a mirror close by.


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** Maya laments that she became too emotional during [[spoiler:her MotiveRant]], and Hayama comfortingly agrees that she ''was'', but getting a bit overwrought was unavoidable. Maya pouts, implying that this was not what she wanted him to say.
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* In ''Anime/Danganronpa3: Side Despair'', Gundham reassures everyone that his pet bear will only bite high-ranked demons. Sonia, who has a crush on Gundham, indignantly asks if he means that she's a demon of low rank. Of course, since both of them are perfectly human and just like to pretend otherwise, it's clear Gundham ''didn't'' mean that and she knows it.

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* In ''Anime/Danganronpa3: ''Anime/Danganronpa3TheEndOfHopesPeakHighSchool: Side Despair'', Gundham reassures everyone that his pet bear will only bite high-ranked demons. Sonia, who has a crush on Gundham, indignantly asks if he means that she's a demon of low rank. Of course, since both of them are perfectly human and just like to pretend otherwise, it's clear Gundham ''didn't'' mean that and she knows it.
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This can [[ComplimentBackfire backfire]] very badly for the compliment fisher if people respond by ''[[GoneHorriblyRight agreeing]]'' with them. ("It's OK, we love you even though you're a bad writer.") If someone does that on purpose, it's probably a form of BackhandedCompliment.

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This can [[ComplimentBackfire backfire]] very badly for the compliment fisher if people respond by ''[[GoneHorriblyRight agreeing]]'' with them. ("It's OK, we love you even though you're a bad writer.") If someone does that on purpose, it's probably a form of BackhandedCompliment. \n People with particularly bad cases of self-loathing may even ''prefer'' this type of response, confirming and mentally justifying their own negative perception of themself.
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Let's say you've written something. You know it's good[[note]]because you're such a better writer than ''me'', right?[[/note]] but you still want to attract more feedback and compliments than you'd normally get.[[note]]Although that's still more than '''I've''' ever gotten.[[/note]]
So, [[OurProductSucks you go out of your way to call attention to how bad it is]][[note]]Even though it's ''nowhere'' near as bad as ''this'' entry[[/note]], tell everyone why they'd never want to see it, and, in extreme cases, {{wangst}} at length about how you're a miserable failure of a writer who deserves to die alone.[[note]]I wonder what that makes ''me'', then?[[/note]]

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Let's say you've written something. You know it's good[[note]]because you're such a better writer than ''me'', ''us'', right?[[/note]] but you still want to attract more feedback and compliments than you'd normally get.[[note]]Although that's still more than '''I've''' '''we've''' ever gotten.[[/note]]
So, [[OurProductSucks you go out of your way to call attention to how bad it is]][[note]]Even though it's ''nowhere'' near as bad as ''this'' entry[[/note]], tell everyone why they'd never want to see it, and, in extreme cases, {{wangst}} at length about how you're a miserable failure of a writer who deserves to die alone.[[note]]I wonder what [[note]]What does that makes ''me'', ''us'' by comparison, then?[[/note]]



This can [[ComplimentBackfire backfire]] very badly for the compliment fisher if people respond by ''[[GoneHorriblyRight agreeing]]'' with them. ("It's ok, we love you even though you're a bad writer.") If someone does that on purpose, it's probably a form of BackhandedCompliment.

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This can [[ComplimentBackfire backfire]] very badly for the compliment fisher if people respond by ''[[GoneHorriblyRight agreeing]]'' with them. ("It's ok, OK, we love you even though you're a bad writer.") If someone does that on purpose, it's probably a form of BackhandedCompliment.
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* ''Film/InTheLoop'': Karen Clark jokes to Chad "you might be Secretary of State one day, young man!" Chad doesn't realise it's a joke and says "Don't say that if you don't mean it."



* ''Series/InTheLoop'': Karen Clark jokes to Chad "you might be Secretary of State one day, young man!" Chad doesn't realise it's a joke and says "Don't say that if you don't mean it."

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* In ''Manga/OnePiece'', Diamante is constantly fishing for compliments from [[TheChessmaster Doflamingo]] to a [[UpToEleven ridiculous extent.]] Doflamingo goes along with it, possibly to [[ManipulativeBastard better motivate Diamante.]]

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* In ''Manga/OnePiece'', Diamante is constantly fishing for compliments from [[TheChessmaster Doflamingo]] to a [[UpToEleven ridiculous extent.]] extent]]. Doflamingo goes along with it, possibly to [[ManipulativeBastard better motivate Diamante.]]Diamante]].



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-->'''Romeo:''' ''(warmly)'' Teria…[[BrutalHonesty ''[warmly]'' Teria... [[BrutalHonesty If you can't swim, then don't do it!]]



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* ''Webcomic/ScarletLady'': While practicing together for the [=UMS3=] tournament in "Gamer", Adrien compliments Marinette's skills while claiming that they only won thanks to her and that he's 'nothing compared to [her].' Rather than comforting him, Marinette responds that it honestly makes sense that he's not as good at co-op, as he's only ever played by himself and doesn't have any experience working with a partner.
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-->'''Fiance:''' It just needs a little sauce! (''Pours soy sauce all over the dish'')
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* Perhaps he thought "I might be bad, but I'm better than these hacks"?

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* In ''Creator/JohnRingo'''s ''Literature/TroyRising'', two characters have a discussion about how their respective cultures handle praise. The character from the [[Main/Eagleland USA]] tells the character from [[Main/LatinLand South America]] that their culture goes too far in praising themselves, deliberately doing things specifically to gain praise. The [[Main/LatinLand South American]] replies that [[Main/Eagleland American]] culture engages in self-deprecation specifically to have their audience provide even more praise, in effect fishing for compliments. Note that these descriptions [[YMMV/HomePage may or may not]] apply to cultures in our world.

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* In ''Creator/JohnRingo'''s ''Literature/TroyRising'', two characters have a discussion about how their respective cultures handle praise. The character from the [[Main/Eagleland [[{{Eagleland}} USA]] tells the character from [[Main/LatinLand [[LatinLand South America]] that their culture goes too far in praising themselves, deliberately doing things specifically to gain praise. The [[Main/LatinLand South American]] American replies that [[Main/Eagleland American]] American culture engages in self-deprecation specifically to have their audience provide even more praise, in effect fishing for compliments. Note that these descriptions [[YMMV/HomePage may or may not]] apply to cultures in our world.
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* In ''Anime/{{Danganronpa}} 3: Despair'', Gundham reassures everyone that his pet bear will only bite high-ranked demons. Sonia, who has a crush on Gundham, indignantly asks if he means that she's a demon of low rank. Of course, since both of them are perfectly human and just like to pretend otherwise, it's clear Gundham ''didn't'' mean that and she knows it.

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* In ''Anime/{{Danganronpa}} 3: ''Anime/Danganronpa3: Side Despair'', Gundham reassures everyone that his pet bear will only bite high-ranked demons. Sonia, who has a crush on Gundham, indignantly asks if he means that she's a demon of low rank. Of course, since both of them are perfectly human and just like to pretend otherwise, it's clear Gundham ''didn't'' mean that and she knows it.
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* Subverted and parodied in ''Series/TheColbertReport'' on the "Formidable Opponent" segment (where Steve plays both parties in a debate). One version of him mentions that he needs to lose a few pounds, and his 'opponent' responds "yeah, you kinda do."
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* In ''Creator/JohnRingo'''s ''Literature/TroyRising'', two characters have a discussion about how their respective cultures handle praise. The character from the [[Main/Eagleland USA]] tells the character from [[Main/LatinLand South America]] that their culture goes too far in praising themselves, deliberately doing things specifically to gain praise. The [[Main/LatinLand South American]] replies that [[Main/Eagleland American]] culture engages in self-deprecation specifically to have their audience provide even more praise, in effect fishing for compliments. Note that these descriptions [[YMMV/HomePage may or may not]] apply to cultures in our world.

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* In In ''Creator/JohnRingo'''s ''Literature/TroyRising'', two characters have a discussion about how their respective cultures handle praise. praise. The character from the [[Main/Eagleland USA]] tells the character from [[Main/LatinLand South America]] that their culture goes too far in praising themselves, deliberately doing things specifically to gain praise. praise. The [[Main/LatinLand South American]] replies that [[Main/Eagleland American]] culture engages in self-deprecation specifically to have their audience provide even more praise, in effect fishing for compliments. compliments. Note that these descriptions [[YMMV/HomePage may or may not]] apply to cultures in our world.
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* In ''Creator/JohnRingo'''s ''Literature/TroyRising'', two characters have a discussion about how their respective cultures handle praise. The character from the [[Main/Eagleland USA]] tells the character from [[Main/LatinLand South America]] that their culture goes too far in praising themselves, deliberately doing things specifically to gain praise. The [[Main/LatinLand South American]] replies that [[Main/Eagleland American]] culture engages in self-deprecation specifically to have their audience provide even more praise, in effect fishing for compliments. Note that these descriptions [[YMMV/HomePage may or may not]] apply to cultures in our world.
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* In chapter 20 of ''Manga/BoardingSchoolJuliet'', Teria offers to teach Romeo to swim, although she obviously isn't good at swimming either, due to her young age. The expectation is that he will refuse and praise her for her compassion [[note]]HonorBeforeReason being heavily glorified in their culture[[/note]], but instead Romeo took her offer at face value and asked if she was irresponsible. Cut to ''both'' of them struggling in the water.
-->'''Romeo:''' ''(warmly)'' Teria…[[BrutalHonesty If you can't swim, then don't do it!]]

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