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Well, if you insist. ''The Republic'' (''Πολιτεία'' -- ''Politeia'') is perhaps the most well-known dialogue of the ancient Greek philosopher Creator/{{Plato}}, offering profound contemplation on the meaning of justice, and whether the just or the unjust man is happier in life. The work is split into ten separate books, making it one of Plato's longer pieces. Like most of Plato's dialogues, ''The Republic'' centers on Plato's teacher, the celebrated Creator/{{Socrates}}. The other characters in the dialogue are Glaucon, Polemarchus, Cephalus, Thrasymachus, Adeimantus, and Cleitophon. Of these, the chief characters are Glaucon and Adeimantus (incidentally, Plato's older brothers); the others speak little –if at all – beyond the first book. Others are present, but do not speak during the dialogue.

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Well, if you insist. ''The Republic'' (''Πολιτεία'' -- ''Politeia'') is perhaps the most well-known dialogue of the ancient Greek philosopher Creator/{{Plato}}, offering a profound contemplation on the meaning of justice, and whether the just or the unjust man is happier in life. The work is split into ten separate books, making it one of Plato's longer pieces. Like most of Plato's dialogues, ''The Republic'' centers on Plato's teacher, the celebrated Creator/{{Socrates}}. The other characters in the dialogue are Glaucon, Polemarchus, Cephalus, Thrasymachus, Adeimantus, and Cleitophon. Of these, the chief characters are Glaucon and Adeimantus (incidentally, Plato's older brothers); the others speak little –if at all – beyond the first book. Others are present, but do not speak during the dialogue.
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* InvisibleJerkass: Glaucon tells a tale about Gyges, a shepherd of Lydia who found a ring who made its wearer invisible, and who used this power to seduce the queen, murder the king, and make himself king. Glaucon follows with a point that it did not matter whether Gyges was a just or unjust person when he found the ring, because nobody would continue to act justly if he had the option to act unjustly without fear of retribution or social stigma. In fact (Glaucon claims), if someone had the power to become invisible and would ''not'' use it to do something forbidden, people, though they might not admit so, would think that person to be an idiot.

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* InvisibleJerkass: Glaucon tells a tale about Gyges, a shepherd of Lydia who found a ring who that made its wearer invisible, and who used this power to seduce the queen, murder the king, and make himself king. Glaucon follows with a point that it did not matter whether Gyges was a just or unjust person when he found the ring, because nobody would continue to act justly if he had the option to act unjustly without fear of retribution or social stigma. In fact (Glaucon claims), if someone had the power to become invisible and would ''not'' use it to do something forbidden, people, though people--though they might not admit so, would so--would think that person to be an idiot.
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* BenevolentDictator: The Philosopher Kings. Though Plato acknowledged that would be difficult to ensure and detailed a hypothetical Orwellian police state that he believed would be the next best thing.

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* EmperorScientist: The Philosopher Kings, in an era where what we would call Science is but a subgenre of Philosophy.



* EmperorScientist: The Philosopher Kings, in an era where what we would call Science is but a subgenre of Philosophy.



* UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans: Some of the utopia's laws are actually horrifying by today's standards (think Literature/NineteenEightyFour with the hierarchical division between the philosopher-king Inner Party, the no-individuality "guardian" Outer Party, and the viewed-as-animals Proles). Also, when asked how this ideal state might be established, Plato's Socrates indicates that the best way to do it would be to find an existing city and exile everyone over the age of ten.

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* UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans: Some of the utopia's laws are actually horrifying by today's standards (think Literature/NineteenEightyFour ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'' with the hierarchical division between the philosopher-king Inner Party, the no-individuality "guardian" Outer Party, and the viewed-as-animals Proles). Also, when asked how this ideal state might be established, Plato's Socrates indicates that the best way to do it would be to find an existing city and exile everyone over the age of ten.



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* UsefulNotes/{{Gnosticism}}: Despite its status as a text of political theory, ''Republic'' is also an UrExample for Gnosticism, albeit a [[DiscussedTrope discussed version]]; translations of pages 588a-589b were found in Nag Hammadi alongside other Gnostic texts, which specifically refer to the images of the human soul and how they correlate to virtue or chaos. Beyond that, there's also the PlatonicCave allegory that many Gnostic-inspired works use to illustrate a "false world" created by a DemiurgeArchetype.
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* TranslationTrainWreck: ''He Politeia'' does ''not'' mean "republic", but rather "policy" or "organizing a state". It was translated as ''Res Publica'' (literally "common thing"), which gave the name "The Republic" in English. The state which Plato imagines is definitely ''not'' a republic in any other sense than lacking a monarch.
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* {{GIFT}}: The Ring of Gyges is sort of an UrExample: instead of Normal Person+Anonymity+Audience=Total Fuckwad, you get Normal Person+Ring of Invisibility+Tempting Targets=Murderer and Rapist. Same principle, really; it's used to argue that being held accountable for one's actions in the public eye is the only thing keeping us from treating one another like jerks.

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* MightMakesRight: Thrasymachus is all over this trope.


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* TheSocialDarwinist: The sophist Thrasymachus argues that justice is defined as "the interest of the stronger", only to be rebutted by Socrates. The "utopia" Socrates proposes in the same book however also has elements like this, with a caste system based on people's abilities. He even talks about having eugenic selective breeding for it.
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* EmperorScientist: The Philosopher Kings, in an era where what we would call Science is but a subgenre of Philosophy.
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* CapitalismIsBad: Socrates warns against the sort of government he calls Oligarchy, by which he means what would be called Plutocracy in more modern terms--i.e., rule by the rich. As he explains it, this system is not viable in the long term, since the selfishness of the rich will make them neglect the interests of the nation and instead simply try to [[{{Greed}} make themselves richer]]. Also, the common people will naturally greatly resent this, leading to crippling class conflicts at best, and even violent revolution if things don't improve.
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* DemocracyIsBad: Socrates believes it is an idiocracy that is one step away from tyranny. Of course, the democracy he knew (closer to what we might term "mob rule" nowadays) was quite different from modern republicanism with its institutional checks and balances.

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* DemocracyIsBad: Socrates believes it is [[HobbesWasRight an idiocracy that is one step away from tyranny. tyranny.]] Of course, the democracy he knew (closer to what we might term "mob rule" nowadays) was quite different from modern republicanism with its institutional checks and balances.
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* SleepingWithTheBosssWife: Of a sort. In the story "Ring of Gyges", an ancestor of King Gyges of Lydia was a humble shepherd who happened upon a magical ring that gave the wearer invisibility. [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity Taking advantage of this new ability]], the shepherd went on to sleep with the Queen, kill the King and take the kingdom as his own.
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We have two subtropes about invisibility (Invisibility Cloak, Invisible Jerkass), so it's not necessary to list Invisibility as a self-standing trope.


* {{Invisibility}}: In the Ring of Gyges parable, the ring makes its wearer invisible.
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* InvisibilityCloak: The ring of Gyges (which Gyges discovered in an ancient tomb) is a golden finger ring which makes its wearers invisible when the collet of the ring is turned inwards (toward the palm). It is a normal ring when the collet is turned outwards.
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* InvisibleJerkass: Glaucon tells a tale about Gyges, a shepherd of Lydia who found a ring who made its wearer invisible, and who used this power to seduce the queen, murder the king, and make himself king. Glaucon follows with a point that it did not matter whether Gyges was a just or unjust person when he found the ring, because nobody would continue to act justly if he had the option to act unjustly without fear of retribution or social stigma. In fact (Glaucon claims), if someone had the power to become invisible and would ''not'' use it to do something forbidden, people, though they might not admit so, would think that person to be an idiot.
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* RingOfPower: To illustrate his point that people act justly only because of outward forces, Glaucon relates the tale of Gyges: The shepherd Gyges, having taken a gold ring from an ancient tomb, finds out that the ring makes him invisible when he turns the collet of the ring inwards. Soon after, Gyges uses the invisibility provided by the ring to seduce the queen and murder the king.

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* RingOfPower: To illustrate his point that people act justly only because of outward social forces, Glaucon relates the tale of Gyges: The shepherd Gyges, having taken a gold ring from an ancient tomb, finds out that the ring makes him invisible when he turns the collet of the ring inwards. Soon after, Gyges uses the invisibility provided by the ring to seduce the queen and murder the king.
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* RingOfPower: To illustrate his point that people act justly only because of outward forces, Glaucon relates the tale of Gyges: The shepherd Gyges, having taken a gold ring from an ancient tomb, finds out that the ring makes him invisible when he turns the collet of the ring inwards. Soon after, Gyges uses the invisibility provided by the ring to seduce the queen and murder the king.
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Index, not a trope.


* OlderThanFeudalism
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* AncientTomb: According to the fable of the Ring of Gyges (as told to Socrates by Glaucon) Gyges started out as a shepherd of Lydia who, after an earthquake, discovered an entrance to a cavern where he found "among other marvels" the statue of a horse made of brass; the statue has a door and inside, there is a skeleton of more-than-human size with a gold ring on its finger. Gyges takes the ring, which turns out to be a magic ring with the power to make its wearer invisible. Obviously, the mysterious cave is a tomb.

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* AncientTomb: According to the fable of the Ring of Gyges (as told to Socrates by Glaucon) Glaucon), Gyges started out as a shepherd of Lydia who, after an earthquake, discovered an entrance to a cavern where he found "among other marvels" the statue of a horse made of brass; the statue has a door and inside, there is a skeleton of more-than-human size with a gold ring on its finger. Gyges takes the ring, which turns out to be a magic ring with the power to make its wearer invisible. Obviously, the mysterious cave is a tomb.
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* AncientTomb: According to the fable of the Ring of Gyges (as told to Socrates by Glaucon) Gyges started out as a shepherd of Lydia who, after an earthquake, discovered an entrance to a cavern where he found "among other marvels" the statue of a horse made of brass; the statue has a door and inside, there is a skeleton of more-than-human size with a gold ring on its finger. Gyges takes the ring, which turns out to be a magic ring with the power to make its wearer invisible. Obviously, the mysterious cave is a tomb.
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* CulturePolice: The book advocates censorship and control of poetry and music, to eliminate unhealthy and undesirable beliefs and attitudes.
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* TheTreacheryOfImages: Discussed in book X. The "mimetic arts" are debated, and how one should handle them.
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* YesMan: One problem with Plato's writings is that he often has Socrates spout off very extensive lists of premises that are simply immediately accepted by everyone present. Characters can go on for pages simply saying, "Yes," "Certainly," "Very true," and "No doubt," while Socrates talks for paragraph after paragraph. Thrasymachus is probably the only one who averts this, but Socrates shuts down his MightMakesRight argument halfway through Book 2.

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* YesMan: One problem with Plato's writings is that he Plato often has Socrates spout off very extensive lists of premises that are simply immediately accepted by everyone present. Characters can go on for pages simply saying, "Yes," "Certainly," "Very true," and "No doubt," while Socrates talks for paragraph after paragraph. Thrasymachus is probably the only one who averts this, but Socrates shuts down his MightMakesRight argument halfway through Book 2.
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* {{Bowdlerise}}: Probably the UrExample of this. Plato advises that the classical literature at the time should be heavily edited when used in education. JerkassGods are not appropriate, and therefore big chunks of Literature/TheIliad, among other things, must be censored.
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* ForgotToGagHim It begins with an account of Polemarchus insisting that Creator/{{Socrates}} accept his hospitality -- giving him [[MortonsFork the choice]] of remaining voluntarily or having Polemarchus and his friends detain him by force. When Socrates [[TakeAThirdOption asks if he might persuade them to let him go]], Polemarchus replies that they will simply refuse to listen to anything he has to say.

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* ForgotToGagHim ForgotToGagHim: It begins with an account of Polemarchus insisting that Creator/{{Socrates}} accept his hospitality -- giving him [[MortonsFork the choice]] of remaining voluntarily or having Polemarchus and his friends detain him by force. When Socrates [[TakeAThirdOption asks if he might persuade them to let him go]], Polemarchus replies that they will simply refuse to listen to anything he has to say.
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* {{Invisibility}}: The Ring of Gyges parable.

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* {{Invisibility}}: The In the Ring of Gyges parable.parable, the ring makes its wearer invisible.



* PlatonicCave: The TropeNamer.
* ThePhilosopherKing: The TropeNamer, and the prototype for technocracy in general.

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* PlatonicCave: The TropeNamer.
TropeNamer, used as an illustration of how most people only dimly perceive Truth and the struggle faced by those who seek to comprehend it more fully.
* ThePhilosopherKing: The TropeNamer, and the prototype for technocracy in general. Socrates puts forth the proposal that an ideal ruler would be a philosopher, drawn from the best of the ranks of the guardian class.
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* ForgotToGagHim It begins with an account of Polemarchus insisting that Creator/{{Socrates}} accept his hospitality -- giving him [[MortonsFork the choice]] of remaining voluntarily or having Polemarchus and his friends detain him by force. When Socrates [[TakeAThirdOption asks if he might persuade them to let him go]], Polemarchus replies that they will simply refuse to listen to anything he has to say.
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* AxeCrazy: Probably one of the first literal examples in the Western canon. Socrates uses the example of giving a woodcutting axe back to a violent lunatic as irresponsible, and that a responsible government must abrogate the rights to property if it might be a danger to the polis. Therefore, proper government is not just about guarding property.

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* AxeCrazy: AxCrazy: Probably one of the first literal examples in the Western canon. Socrates uses the example of giving a woodcutting axe back to a violent lunatic as irresponsible, and that a responsible government must abrogate the rights to property if it might be a danger to the polis. Therefore, proper government is not just about guarding property.


* GenreSavvy: At one point, Socrates is leading the conversation in [[ObfuscatingStupidity his]] [[ArmorPiercingQuestion usual]] [[PullTheThread manner]], and Adeimantus notices. He proceeds to interrupt the conversation and demand that Socrates stop pretending to be a moron and simply state what he's trying to get at.

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* AuthorTract: Whether Plato is putting his own ideas in Socrates's mouth or simply relaying Socrates's own views is something that will probably never be settled with any degree of certainty. However, the fact remains that either way, ''The Republic'' is primarily a tract about how society should be organized in an ideal world.



* CulturedBadass: According to Socrates, the ideal warrior gets plenty of both physical and intellectual exercise -- the former to ensure they're strong enough to defend society, and the latter to ensure that they understand what they're fighting for and aren't simply thugs who are just as dangerous to their own people as their enemies.



* DayHurtsDarkAdjustedEyes: Used in the PlatonicCave description.

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* DayHurtsDarkAdjustedEyes: Used in the PlatonicCave description.description as a metaphor for how human beings react when confronted with the truth of a reality they have hitherto only dimly understood.



* {{GIFT}}: The Ring of Gyges is sort of an UrExample: instead of Normal Person+Anonymity+Audience=Total Fuckwad, you get Normal Person+Ring of Invisibility+Tempting Targets=Murderer and Rapist. Same principle, really.

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* {{GIFT}}: The Ring of Gyges is sort of an UrExample: instead of Normal Person+Anonymity+Audience=Total Fuckwad, you get Normal Person+Ring of Invisibility+Tempting Targets=Murderer and Rapist. Same principle, really.really; it's used to argue that being held accountable for one's actions in the public eye is the only thing keeping us from treating one another like jerks.



* {{Utopia}}: The point of the dialogue is to define one.

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* {{Utopia}}: The point of the dialogue is to define one.what a truly just society would look like -- and, from there, further expand on what a truly just ''person'' looks like.

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