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* In the opening credits, Creator/BillFinger finally being acknowledged as Batman's co-creator, after decades of Creator/BobKane being credited as the sole creator.
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* At the Capitol Building, most of the onlookers are staunchly Anti-Superman, yelling at him to go home. But there are few who hold posters saying "Superman SAVES Lives". It's truly sweet to know that Martha was right; there are people who see the good that Clark does and they are grateful for it.
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* Despite the enormous internet backdraft that greeted the announcement, there are still plenty of people who are happy to see Creator/BenAffleck cast as Franchise/{{Batman}} for the sequel, including Creator/ScottSnyder, Creator/KevinConroy, Creator/GrantMorrison, Creator/JossWhedon, Creator/HughJackman, Creator/MarkMillar, Creator/ChristianBale, Creator/TomWelling, and fellow contender for the part Creator/JoshBrolin. Most heartwarming of all was [[http://ie.ign.com/articles/2013/08/26/patton-oswalt-defends-ben-affleck-batman-casting this defense from]] Creator/PattonOswalt, showing that Affleck might just be right for the role after all.
** Even more heartwarming since Affleck's portrayal of the Caped Crusader won most people over.
* The fact that, after years of failed attempts, aborted projects and outcry from fans, we will finally be getting a live-action Franchise/WonderWoman in movies. The joy ''finally'' getting to see her on the big screen after decades of excuses and false starts is quite moving.
* The on-set photo of Cavill's Franchise/{{Superman}} and Creator/AmyAdams's ComicBook/LoisLane indicating they'll be recreating the classic image of Superman romantically carrying Lois in the film.
* After 77 years, this film is finally giving proper credit to Bill Finger for his role in the creation of Batman, after he had to give up all the credit for it and never saw a cent due to being a ghostwriter for Bob Kane.
* Since its release, the movie has been panned by critics and received a mixed reception among audiences. However, a number of people, even ones who didn't like the movie, have been showing their support for the cast, saying that the movie is either not as bad as critics say it is or that despite the film being lackluster, the actors are not at fault and gave excellent performances with the material they had, with special mention going to the performances given by Creator/BenAffleck and Creator/GalGadot. This has not gone unnoticed by Creator/HenryCavill and Gadot who have since [[http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/henry-cavill-gal-gadot-thank-fans-batman-v-superman-success publicly thanked people for the support they've received]]. Given how difficult it must be for them to be in this situation, one can imagine that they're being 100% sincere.
** On a similar note, Creator/AmyAdams criticized all the personal attacks on Creator/ZackSnyder by people who didn't like the movie, saying that he's the nicest person and that it was tough to watch him get so much hate.
* For people who are annoyed by the critical bashing or grew tired of it, here's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5S7rjUbC14 CinemaWins]].
* [[http://moviepilot.com/posts/3839399 This letter from a fan]], who saw past the film's flaws and found something that spoke to him.
* [[https://66.media.tumblr.com/cce1bfe04d32718d6dbc9e1d4c20261e/tumblr_o9ie5xNIaa1rmqz4qo1_400.gif This]] BRoll footage of Ben Affleck and Henry Cavill {{corpsing}} and smiling at each other.
* Creator/ZackSnyder and Creator/BenAffleck [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVIpW25r9uY advocating a bat sanctuary]].
* Creator/ZackSnyder gets a lot of hate from people that claim he "doesn't get Superman" or created a universe that's "too dark and depressing". This movie adapts ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'', a comic written by Creator/FrankMiller that, in large part, treats Superman as just an ineffective weapon that does what he's told without question, but paints Batman as ''completely in the wrong''. Even more so when you consider how the movie version of Clark represents immigrants and the treatment of Muslims in the US post-9/11, which provides a heavy contrast against Miller's islamophobia.
* Creator/AishaTyler [[http://dcfilmshub.com/aisha-tyler-will-host-warner-bros-comic-con-2018-panel/ praising ''Batman v Superman'' on Reddit.]]
* During the Vero quarantine commentary of the ultimate cut Snyder held, he mentions that the bathtub sequence with Lois and Clark with him bringing her flowers is partially inspired by something Zack and his wife Deborah do in real-life. A touching example of WriteWhoYouKnow.
** Deborah herself pops in for a few minutes and before she leaves to check on their kids, she thanks everyone for the support given in the three years following their daughter Autumn’s death.
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* Lois and Clark have [[GoodPeopleHaveGoodSex a normal sex life]]. Compare that to Creator/JohnByrne and Creator/FrankMiller's stories, which depict [[ManOfSteelWomanOfKleenex Superman as a sexual hurricane that only a woman of equal power can copulate with and survive]]. DCEU Superman is as gentle as a lamb, which is a big deal considering how much of the movie was influenced by comic book lore.

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* Lois and Clark have [[GoodPeopleHaveGoodSex a normal sex life]].life. Compare that to Creator/JohnByrne and Creator/FrankMiller's stories, which depict [[ManOfSteelWomanOfKleenex Superman as a sexual hurricane that only a woman of equal power can copulate with and survive]]. DCEU Superman is as gentle as a lamb, which is a big deal considering how much of the movie was influenced by comic book lore.
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* It's subtle, but the fact is that, when Superman is throwing Batman around during the second half of their fight, Superman could've easily crushed him into paste. The fact that he's willing to hold back against a guy who was just beating him up really speaks volumes about just what a good person he is.
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* Despite their mutual hatred and all Lex had done, Clark still doesn't have a moment's hesitation in saving Lex from Doomsday.
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* [[http://dcfilmshub.com/aisha-tyler-will-host-warner-bros-comic-con-2018-panel/ Aisha Tyler praising ''Batman v Superman'' on Reddit.]]

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* Creator/AishaTyler [[http://dcfilmshub.com/aisha-tyler-will-host-warner-bros-comic-con-2018-panel/ Aisha Tyler praising ''Batman v Superman'' on Reddit.]]
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* Lex throws Lois off his building in order to draw Superman to his trap. As expected, Superman swoops in and saves her, but the way he does it so romantic it wouldn't look out of place in a museum: He catches Lois, gives her a calm, reassuring smile and gently brings her to the ground. He really is her guardian angel.

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* Lex throws Lois off his building in order to draw Superman to his trap. As expected, Superman swoops in and saves her, but the way he does it so romantic it wouldn't look out of place in a museum: He he catches Lois, gives her a calm, reassuring smile and gently brings her to the ground. He really is her guardian angel.



* Superman's/Clark's funerals. While Superman's funeral is lavish and has thousands of attendants, the coffin is empty. Meanwhile, Clark's body is buried in Smallville with only a few people attending and a modest reception. Given that he's always been portrayed as a simple man, you get the impression that Clark would have wanted it this way.

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* Superman's/Clark's funerals. While Superman's funeral is military-like, lavish and has thousands of attendants, the coffin is empty. Meanwhile, Clark's body is buried in Smallville with only a few people attending and a modest reception. Given that he's always been portrayed as a simple man, you get the impression that Clark would have wanted it this way.



*** And then we're given a not-so-subtle hint that Bruce and possibly Diana as well helped cover the entirety of the funeral on Clark's behalf anonymously.

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*** And then we're given a not-so-subtle hint that Bruce and possibly Diana as well helped financially cover the entirety of the funeral on Clark's behalf anonymously.{{anonymous|benefactor}}ly.
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''Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice'' may continue to put our heroes through utter hell, but these moments can still convince you that things can get better for them.

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[[caption-width-right:350:''"This is my world. YOU are my world!"'']]

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-->-- '''Glen Woodburn''', clearly understanding '''Superman''''s motives

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-->-- '''Glen Woodburn''', '''Vikram Gandhi''', clearly understanding '''Superman''''s motives



-->'''Vikram Gandhi''': We have always created icons in our own image. What we've done is we've projected ourselves onto him. The fact is, maybe he's not some kind of devil or Jesus figure. Maybe he's just a guy trying to do the right thing.

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-->'''Vikram Gandhi''': Gandhi:''' We have always created icons in our own image. What we've done is we've projected ourselves onto him. The fact is, maybe he's not some kind of devil or Jesus figure. Maybe he's just a guy trying to do the right thing.

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->''"The fact is, maybe he's not some sort of devil or Jesus character. Maybe he's just a guy trying to do the right thing."''
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* What finally prompted Batman to fight Superman was the fact that Wallace Keefe, one of Bruce's workers who lost his legs during the Battle of Metropolis, became a suicide bomber who blew up the Senate. It was revealed that Wallace had not been cashing in the disability checks issued by Wayne's company and instead sent them back with statements about resenting Superman]]. It was his concern over his former employee that finally convinced him that Superman has to go. [[note]]{{Subverted|Trope}} a bit when it is revealed in the Extended Cut that Wallace didn't know he was a bomb and that Lex is the one that took his welfare checks and wrote the notes.[[/note]]

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* What finally prompted Batman to fight Superman was the fact that Wallace Keefe, one of Bruce's workers who lost his legs during the Battle of Metropolis, became a suicide bomber who blew up the Senate. It was revealed that Wallace had not been cashing in the disability checks issued by Wayne's company and instead sent them back with statements about resenting Superman]].Superman. It was his concern over his former employee that finally convinced him that Superman has to go. [[note]]{{Subverted|Trope}} a bit when it is revealed in the Extended Cut that Wallace didn't know he was a bomb and that Lex is the one that took his welfare checks and wrote the notes.[[/note]]
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* During the Vero quarantine commentary of the ultimate cut Snyder held, he mentions that the bathtub sequence with Lois and Clark with him bringing her flowers is partially inspired by something Zack and his wife Deborah do in real-life. A touching example of WriteWhoYouKnow.
** Deborah herself pops in for a few minutes and before she leaves to check on their kids, she thanks everyone for the support given in the three years following their daughter Autumn’s death.
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* Creator/ZackSnyder gets a lot of hate from people that claim he "doesn't get Superman" or created a universe that's too dark and depressing. This movie adapts ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'', a comic written by Creator/FrankMiller that, in large part, treats Superman as just an ineffective weapon that does what he's told without question, but paints Batman as ''completely in the wrong''. Even more so when you consider how the movie version of Clark represents immigrants and the treatment of Muslims in the US post-9/11, which provides a heavy contrast against Miller's islamophobia.

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* Creator/ZackSnyder gets a lot of hate from people that claim he "doesn't get Superman" or created a universe that's too "too dark and depressing.depressing". This movie adapts ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'', a comic written by Creator/FrankMiller that, in large part, treats Superman as just an ineffective weapon that does what he's told without question, but paints Batman as ''completely in the wrong''. Even more so when you consider how the movie version of Clark represents immigrants and the treatment of Muslims in the US post-9/11, which provides a heavy contrast against Miller's islamophobia.
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* Creator/ZackSnyder and and Creator/BenAffleck [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVIpW25r9uY advocating a bat sanctuary]].

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* Bruce Wayne runs into the cloud of wreckage cast by Zod's heat vision inside a building that collapses, and [[FriendToAllChildren hugs and comforts a little girl in the middle of the destruction]]. [[DeathGlare The look he gives]] the sky and the presumably still fighting aliens makes it seem like his antagonism of Superman is just as much BigBrotherInstinct and PapaWolf as anything else.
* Lois and Martha Kent serve as Superman's {{Morality Chain}}s. Both women are not happy that the world still resents Superman for the destruction of Metropolis even when Superman did his sincere hardest to stop Zod's forces and is trying to earn their trust. Lois and Martha both inspire Clark to be the HopeBringer he was always meant to be.
--> '''Lois:''' (''hand against Supes's chest emblem'') This ''means'' something. It's all some people have. It's all that gives them ''hope''.

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* Bruce Wayne runs into the cloud of wreckage cast by Zod's heat vision inside a building Wayne Financial that collapses, and [[FriendToAllChildren hugs and comforts a little girl in the middle of the destruction]]. [[DeathGlare The look he gives]] the sky and the presumably still fighting aliens still-fighting Superman and Zod makes it seem like his antagonism of Superman is just as much BigBrotherInstinct and PapaWolf as anything else.
* Lois and Martha Kent serve as Superman's Clark/Superman's {{Morality Chain}}s. Both women are not happy that the world still resents Superman for the destruction of Metropolis even when Superman did his sincere hardest to stop Zod's Zod and his forces and is trying to earn their trust. Lois and Martha both inspire Clark to be the HopeBringer he was always meant to be.
--> '''Lois:''' (''hand ''[hand against Supes's chest emblem'') ChestInsignia]'' This ''means'' something. It's all some people have. It's all that gives them ''hope''.



* This line from Alfred regarding Superman.
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* This line from Alfred regarding Superman.
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-->'''Alfred:''' (''to Bruce'') ''[to Bruce]'' He is ''not'' our enemy.



* It was revealed that what finally prompted Batman to fight Superman was the fact that Wallace Keefe, one of Bruce's workers who lost his legs during the war with Zod, [[spoiler:became a suicide bomber who blew up an entire courtroom full of people. It was revealed that Wallace had not been cashing in the disability checks issued by Wayne's company and instead sent them back with statements about resenting Superman]]. It was his concern over his former employee that finally convinced him that Superman has to go. [[note]] Subverted a bit when it is revealed in the Extended Cut that Wallace didn't know he was a bomb and that Lex is the one that took his welfare checks and wrote the notes.[[/note]]
* Even in the Knightmare sequence, which is supposed to show the worst possible future, we get to see some of this with how Batman treats his fellow resistance members. They are only {{Red Shirts}}, and we never learn any of their names (though it's a safe bet Tim, Dick, Cassandra, Stephanie, etc. were among them), but Batman still gives a {{big NO}} when he sees them all being killed, and during the fight, he's shown attempting to drag a random injured one to safety.
* The fight between Batman and Superman ends [[spoiler:not with one declaring victory over the other, or even with TeethClenchedTeamwork, but because Superman cries out "Save Martha!" just as Batman is about to stab him with the Kryptonite spear. In that moment, Batman realizes that he and Superman aren't so different, and that by helping him save his mother, he can do now what he was powerless to do all those years ago]].
-->'''Batman''': I promise you. [[spoiler:Martha won't die tonight.]]
* Even though Senator Finch disapproves of Superman, she genuinely cares about the people who get caught in the crossfire, unlike Lex Luthor, who just wants to be [[KillTheGod the guy that killed a god]].
* Lois and Clark have a normal sex life. Compare that to John Byrne and Creator/FrankMiller's stories, which depict [[ManOfSteelWomanOfKleenex Superman as a sexual hurricane that only a woman of equal power can copulate with and survive]]. This version is as gentle as a lamb, which is a big deal considering how much of the movie was influenced by comic book lore.
* Speaking of Lois and Clark...our couple share a ''lot'' of Moments in this film, involving non-verbal exchanges and support.
** The Nairomi incident. You can see the two of them planning out how to break the general's use of Lois as a human shield, with just locked eyes, hints of smiles, and a nod from Lo. BOOM!
*** Note how she nods, then releases her grip on the General's arm around her throat. She knows ''exactly'' what needs to happen to resolve this situation, and is giving Supes the best opening (so she won't be dragged along).
** In the extended cut, [[spoiler: the aftermath of the bombing of Congress.]] Just before Supes flies off, he sees Lois behind the press barrier. The silent exchange runs roughly: "Clark... it wasn't your fault." "...Wasn't it?"
** After the Big Fight, as Bats and Supes prepare to go off and foil Luthor, Lois takes hold of Clark's face, looking deep into his eyes with a supportive smile. Just before the fight, Clark told her "No one stays good in this world." Here, Lois is saying, "You did."
* The full "This means something" scene. Superman is in the depths of despair over his failure to [[spoiler: stop the bombing of Congress]]. He begins to doubt his value as Superman at all. Lois, on the verge of tears, tells him he is "all some people have," and "all that gives them hope". One almost gets the idea she's including herself in that.
* Clark's moment with [[spoiler:the ghost of Jonathan Kent, who tells him that even if he can't save everyone, the fact that he tries is enough to prove that he's not the monster everyone says he is. Jonathan even tells Clark how much he misses him, a sentiment he reciprocates]].
* General Swanwick shows much more respect towards Lois than he did in ''Film/ManOfSteel'', ultimately giving her the information needed to prove that Lex has been framing Superman. He also shows genuine concern for Superman, and is against the idea of [[spoiler:nuking Doomsday since the nuke would also hurt Superman who is fighting him; a sentiment shared by another female military staff member]]. Contrast this to how he behaved in the first movie. When the President mulls over nuking Superman and Doomsday high up in the sky, he notes that there'd be no casualties. Swanwick is quick to correct.

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* It was revealed that what What finally prompted Batman to fight Superman was the fact that Wallace Keefe, one of Bruce's workers who lost his legs during the war with Zod, [[spoiler:became Battle of Metropolis, became a suicide bomber who blew up an entire courtroom full of people.the Senate. It was revealed that Wallace had not been cashing in the disability checks issued by Wayne's company and instead sent them back with statements about resenting Superman]]. It was his concern over his former employee that finally convinced him that Superman has to go. [[note]] Subverted [[note]]{{Subverted|Trope}} a bit when it is revealed in the Extended Cut that Wallace didn't know he was a bomb and that Lex is the one that took his welfare checks and wrote the notes.[[/note]]
* Even in the Knightmare sequence, which is supposed to show [[BadFuture the worst possible future, future]], we get to see some of this with how Batman treats his fellow resistance members. fighters. They are only {{Red Shirts}}, and we never learn any of their names (though it's a safe bet Tim, Dick, Barbara, Cassandra, Stephanie, etc. were among them), but Batman still gives a {{big NO}} BigNo when he sees them all being killed, and during the fight, he's shown attempting to drag a random injured one to safety.
* The fight between Batman and Superman ends [[spoiler:not not with one declaring victory over the other, other or even with TeethClenchedTeamwork, but because Superman cries out "Save Martha!" just as Batman is about to stab him with the Kryptonite spear. In that moment, Batman realizes that he and Superman aren't so different, and that by helping him save his mother, he can do now what he was powerless to do all those years ago]].
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-->'''Batman''': I promise you. [[spoiler:Martha Martha won't die tonight.]]
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* Even though Senator Finch disapproves of Superman, she genuinely cares about the people who get caught in the crossfire, unlike Lex Luthor, Lex, who just wants to be [[KillTheGod the guy that killed a god]].
* Lois and Clark have [[GoodPeopleHaveGoodSex a normal sex life. life]]. Compare that to John Byrne Creator/JohnByrne and Creator/FrankMiller's stories, which depict [[ManOfSteelWomanOfKleenex Superman as a sexual hurricane that only a woman of equal power can copulate with and survive]]. This version DCEU Superman is as gentle as a lamb, which is a big deal considering how much of the movie was influenced by comic book lore.
* Speaking of Lois and Clark...Clark, our couple share a ''lot'' of Moments heartwarming moments in this film, involving non-verbal exchanges and support.
** The Nairomi incident. You can see the two of them planning out how to break the general's use of Lois as a human shield, {{human shield}}, with just locked eyes, hints of smiles, and a nod from Lo. BOOM!
*** Note how she nods, then releases her grip on the General's general's arm around her throat. She knows ''exactly'' what needs to happen to resolve this situation, and is giving Supes the best opening (so she won't be dragged along).
** In the extended cut, [[spoiler: Ultimate Cut, the aftermath of the bombing of Congress.]] Senate bombing. Just before Supes flies off, he sees Lois behind the press barrier. The silent exchange runs roughly: "Clark... it wasn't your fault." "...Wasn't it?"
** After the Big Fight, as Bats and Supes prepare to go off and foil Luthor, Lex, Lois takes hold of Clark's face, looking deep into his eyes with a supportive smile. Just before the fight, Clark told her "No one stays good in this world." Here, Lois is saying, "You did."
* The full "This means something" scene. [[HeroicBSOD Superman is in the depths of despair over his failure to [[spoiler: stop the bombing of Congress]]. He Senate bombing]] and begins to doubt his value as Superman at all. Superman. Lois, on the verge of tears, tells him he is "all some people have," have" and "all that gives them hope". One almost gets the idea she's including herself in that.
* Clark's moment with [[spoiler:the the ghost of Jonathan Kent, who tells him that even if he can't save everyone, the fact that he tries is enough to prove that he's not the monster everyone says he is. Jonathan even tells Clark how much he misses him, a sentiment he reciprocates]].
reciprocates.
* General Swanwick shows much more respect towards Lois than he did in ''Film/ManOfSteel'', ultimately giving her the information needed to prove that Lex has been framing Superman. He also shows genuine concern for Superman, and is against the idea of [[spoiler:nuking nuking Doomsday since the nuke would also hurt Superman who is fighting him; a sentiment shared by another female military staff member]].member. Contrast this to how he behaved in the first movie. When the President mulls over nuking Superman and Doomsday high up in the sky, he notes that there'd be no casualties. Swanwick is quick to correct.



* When Superman is about to [[spoiler:rush Doomsday with the Kryptonite spear]], he tells Lois he loves her.
* After spending the entire movie treating Clark like the copy-boy, Perry White [[spoiler:publishes an article on his death with a heartfelt headline]].

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* When Superman is about to [[spoiler:rush [[HeroicSacrifice rush Doomsday with the Kryptonite spear]], [[DyingDeclarationOfLove he tells Lois he loves her.
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* After spending the entire movie treating Clark like the copy-boy, Perry White [[spoiler:publishes publishes an article on his death with a heartfelt headline]].headline.



* The first thing Batman says to [[spoiler:Martha upon rescuing her]]:
-->'''Batman:''' [[spoiler:It's okay. I'm a friend of your son.]]
** Batman's choice of words is pretty significant here. Not only does he now view Superman in a more sympathetic light, but he's also revealing his human side by referring to himself as a friend, which is a big step for someone who previously didn't seem to care if innocent people were scared of him. Not only that, but by calling Superman her son he's acknowledging that Superman isn't a lone, godlike alien, but a member of a human family.
*** Remember what happened in the beginning of the movie. When he saved the sex slaves they are so scared of him they refuse to leave their cell. Batman didn't comfort them at all. Now? Now he is telling the adopted mother of a man he was ready to kill that it will be okay.
** Martha's nonchalant response and relieved smile is quite heartwarming as well - this is a woman whose husband died years before that has spent the entire movie worried about her son, but despite all the pain and anxiety, she's still the unfazed woman with NervesOfSteel whose response to finding an alien baby in a field was to adopt him.

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* The first thing Batman says to [[spoiler:Martha Martha upon rescuing her]]:
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** Batman's choice of words is pretty significant here. Not only does he now view Superman in a more sympathetic light, but he's also revealing his human side by referring to himself as a friend, which is a big step for someone who previously didn't seem to care if innocent people were scared of him. Not only that, but by calling Superman her son son, he's acknowledging that Superman isn't a lone, lone godlike alien, but a member of a human family.
*** Remember what happened in the beginning of the movie. When he saved the sex slaves slaves, they are so scared of him they refuse to leave their cell. Batman didn't comfort them at all. Now? Now he is telling the adopted mother of a man he was ready to kill that it will be okay.
** Martha's nonchalant response and relieved smile is quite heartwarming as well - this well. This is a woman woman, whose husband died years before before, that has spent the entire movie worried about her son, but despite all the pain and anxiety, she's still the unfazed woman with NervesOfSteel whose response to finding an alien baby in a field was to adopt him.



* Lex throws Lois off his building in order to draw Superman to his trap. As expected, Superman swoops in and saves her but the way he does it so romantic it wouldn't look out of place in a museum: he catches Lois, gives her a calm, reassuring smile and gently brings her to the ground. He really is her guardian angel.
* When Clark has to choose between tailing Bruce Wayne or rescuing some people in Mexico caught in a fire, he rescues the civilians. He's seen enough death.

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* Lex throws Lois off his building in order to draw Superman to his trap. As expected, Superman swoops in and saves her her, but the way he does it so romantic it wouldn't look out of place in a museum: he He catches Lois, gives her a calm, reassuring smile and gently brings her to the ground. He really is her guardian angel.
* When Clark has to choose between tailing Bruce Wayne or rescuing some people in Mexico caught in a fire, he rescues the civilians. He's seen enough death.



* [[spoiler:Superman's/Clark's funerals. While Superman's funeral is lavish and has thousands of attendants, the coffin is empty. Meanwhile, Clark's body is buried in Smallville with only a few people attending and a modest reception. Given that he's always been portrayed as a simple man, you get the impression that Clark would have wanted it this way.]]
** [[spoiler: When he is still alive, Superman was resented by a lot of people who blamed him for the deaths and destruction over the years. Now that he is dead, many attend his funeral, apparently their opinion of him had change and regretted doubting him in the first place]].
** What's more is [[spoiler:Bruce and Diana, who would easily be [=VIPs=] at the big fancy state funeral instead attend the modest one in Smallville. They were probably the ones who took Clark's body home in the first place. It's a complete reversal of the funeral from the comic version of ''ComicBook/TheDeathOfSuperman'', showing that, in the brief time they fought together, they truly did become friends]].
** A little while later, you see [[spoiler:the site of the destroyed Superman monument where the citizens of Metropolis gathered to pay their respects, some crying, and all that was left there was the "S" symbol and this writing, "If you seek his monument, look all around you." The Man of Steel was too big for a single monument to represent him, and his legacy will be the city of Metropolis and all its citizens...]]
** [[spoiler:The final shot of the film shows a pile of dirt on Clark's coffin begin to float and a faint heartbeat can be heard, an indication that the greatest hero on Earth is still alive]].
** A few extra tidbits from the extended cut worth noting;
*** The first time Clark hears of Batman from a couple, the man tells him that the bat is angrier than usual and they should fear him; the woman's response is to firmly state that the only ones who fear Batman are those who really have a reason. Despite all the grief and paranoia he's going through, the Dark Knight still has managed to leave a good sign in Gotham's people.
*** [[spoiler: The entire city of Metropolis has taken the day off to honour Superman, with the streets and buildings completely empty.]]
*** [[spoiler: Although Perry gave Clark endless amounts of grief for his journalistic integrity, he's seen at the Smallville funeral along with Jenny.]]
*** [[spoiler: And then we're given a not-so-subtle hint that Bruce and possibly Diana as well helped cover the entirety of the funeral on Clark's behalf anonymously.]]
* At [[spoiler:Clark's funeral]] Bruce delivers his "Men are still good" monologue. Mixed with scenes of people paying their respect at the Superman monument, the monologue highlights how despite the crueler aspect of mankind existing, there is still enough good in all of us that we can become better. One has a feeling that Bruce will take this lesson with him as he forms the Justice League.
* This line from Bruce, said during [[spoiler:Clark's funeral]]:

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* [[spoiler:Superman's/Clark's Superman's/Clark's funerals. While Superman's funeral is lavish and has thousands of attendants, the coffin is empty. Meanwhile, Clark's body is buried in Smallville with only a few people attending and a modest reception. Given that he's always been portrayed as a simple man, you get the impression that Clark would have wanted it this way.]]
way.
** [[spoiler: When he is still alive, Superman was resented by a lot of people who blamed him for the deaths and destruction over the years. Now that he is dead, many attend his funeral, apparently their opinion of him had change and regretted doubting him in the first place]].
place.
** What's more is [[spoiler:Bruce Bruce and Diana, who would easily be [=VIPs=] at the big fancy state funeral instead attend the modest one in Smallville. They were probably the ones who took brought Clark's body home in the first place. It's a complete reversal of the funeral from the comic version of ''ComicBook/TheDeathOfSuperman'', showing that, in the brief time they fought together, they truly did become friends]].
friends.
** A little while later, you see [[spoiler:the the site of the destroyed Superman monument where the citizens of Metropolis gathered to pay their respects, some crying, and all that was left there was the "S" symbol and this writing, "If you seek his monument, look all around you." The Man of Steel was too big for a single monument to represent him, and his legacy will be the city of Metropolis and all its citizens...]]
citizens...
** [[spoiler:The The final shot of the film shows a pile of dirt on Clark's coffin begin to float and a faint heartbeat can be heard, an indication that the greatest hero on Earth is still alive]].
alive.
** A few extra tidbits from the extended cut Ultimate Cut worth noting;
noting:
*** The first time Clark hears of Batman from a couple, the man tells him that the bat Bat is angrier than usual and they should fear him; the woman's response is to firmly state that the only ones who fear Batman are those who really have a reason. Despite all the grief and paranoia he's going through, the Dark Knight still has managed to leave a good sign in Gotham's people.
*** [[spoiler: The entire city of Metropolis has taken the day off to honour honor Superman, with the streets and buildings completely empty.]]
empty.
*** [[spoiler: Although Perry gave Clark endless amounts of grief for his journalistic integrity, he's seen at the Smallville funeral along with Jenny.]]
Jenny.
*** [[spoiler: And then we're given a not-so-subtle hint that Bruce and possibly Diana as well helped cover the entirety of the funeral on Clark's behalf anonymously.]]
anonymously.
* At [[spoiler:Clark's funeral]] Clark's funeral, Bruce delivers his "Men are still good" monologue. Mixed with scenes of people paying their respect respects at the Superman monument, the monologue highlights how despite the crueler aspect of mankind existing, there is still enough good in all of us that we can become better. One has a feeling that Bruce will take this lesson with him as he forms the Justice League.
* This line from Bruce, said during [[spoiler:Clark's funeral]]:Clark's funeral:



* At the end of the movie, we learn [[spoiler:Clark was planning to propose to Lois. She wears his engagement ring in her last scenes.]]

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* At the end of the movie, we learn [[spoiler:Clark Clark was planning to propose to Lois. She wears his engagement ring in her last scenes.]]



* A major one: ''Superman gave Batman hope again.'' By the end of the film, Superman had shown Batman that there was still good in the world, and that it was still very much worth fighting for. Superman's greatest accomplishment in this film was to give the Caped Crusader a reason to take up his 'No Kill' rule once more. Thanks to Supes, the Batman is well and truly back in [[HesBack action]].

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* A major one: ''Superman gave Batman hope again.'' By the end of the film, Superman had shown Batman that there was still good in the world, and that it was still very much worth fighting for. Superman's greatest accomplishment in this film was to give the Caped Crusader a reason to take up his 'No Kill' rule once more. Thanks to Supes, the Batman is well and truly back in [[HesBack action]].



* Despite the enormous internet backdraft that greeted the announcement, there are still plenty of people who are happy to see Creator/BenAffleck cast as Franchise/{{Batman}} for the sequel, including Creator/ScottSnyder, Creator/KevinConroy, Creator/GrantMorrison, Creator/JossWhedon, Creator/HughJackman, Creator/MarkMillar, Creator/ChristianBale, [[Series/{{Smallville}} Tom Welling]], and fellow contender for the part Creator/JoshBrolin. Most heartwarming of all was [[http://ie.ign.com/articles/2013/08/26/patton-oswalt-defends-ben-affleck-batman-casting this defense from]] Creator/PattonOswalt, showing that Affleck might just be right for the role after all.
** Even more heartwarming since Ben Affleck's portrayal of the Caped Crusader won most people over.

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* Despite the enormous internet backdraft that greeted the announcement, there are still plenty of people who are happy to see Creator/BenAffleck cast as Franchise/{{Batman}} for the sequel, including Creator/ScottSnyder, Creator/KevinConroy, Creator/GrantMorrison, Creator/JossWhedon, Creator/HughJackman, Creator/MarkMillar, Creator/ChristianBale, [[Series/{{Smallville}} Tom Welling]], Creator/TomWelling, and fellow contender for the part Creator/JoshBrolin. Most heartwarming of all was [[http://ie.ign.com/articles/2013/08/26/patton-oswalt-defends-ben-affleck-batman-casting this defense from]] Creator/PattonOswalt, showing that Affleck might just be right for the role after all.
** Even more heartwarming since Ben Affleck's portrayal of the Caped Crusader won most people over.



* Since its release, the movie has been panned by critics and received a mixed reception among audiences. However, a number of people, even ones who didn't like the movie, have been showing their support for the cast, saying that the movie is either not as bad as critics say it is or that despite the film being lackluster, the actors are not at fault and gave excellent performances with the material they had, with special mention going to the performances given by Ben Affleck and Gal Gadot. This has not gone unnoticed by Henry Cavill and Gal Gadot who have since [[http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/henry-cavill-gal-gadot-thank-fans-batman-v-superman-success publicly thanked people for the support they've received]]. Given how difficult it must be for them to be in this situation, one can imagine that they're being 100% sincere.
** On a similar note, Amy Adams criticized all the personal attacks on Zack Snyder by people who didn't like the movie, saying that he's the nicest person and that it was tough to watch him get so much hate.

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* Since its release, the movie has been panned by critics and received a mixed reception among audiences. However, a number of people, even ones who didn't like the movie, have been showing their support for the cast, saying that the movie is either not as bad as critics say it is or that despite the film being lackluster, the actors are not at fault and gave excellent performances with the material they had, with special mention going to the performances given by Ben Affleck Creator/BenAffleck and Gal Gadot. Creator/GalGadot. This has not gone unnoticed by Henry Cavill Creator/HenryCavill and Gal Gadot who have since [[http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/henry-cavill-gal-gadot-thank-fans-batman-v-superman-success publicly thanked people for the support they've received]]. Given how difficult it must be for them to be in this situation, one can imagine that they're being 100% sincere.
** On a similar note, Amy Adams Creator/AmyAdams criticized all the personal attacks on Zack Snyder Creator/ZackSnyder by people who didn't like the movie, saying that he's the nicest person and that it was tough to watch him get so much hate.



* Zack Snyder and and Ben Affleck [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVIpW25r9uY advocating a bat sanctuary]].
* Zack Snyder gets a lot of hate from people that claim he "doesn't get Superman" or created a universe that's too dark and depressing. This movie adapts ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'', a comic written by Creator/FrankMiller that in large treats Superman as just an ineffective weapon that does what he's told without question, but paints Batman as ''completely in the wrong''. Even more so when you consider how the movie version of Clark represents immigrants and the treatment of Muslims in the US post-9/11, which provides a heavy contrast against Miller's islamophobia.

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* Zack Snyder Creator/ZackSnyder and and Ben Affleck Creator/BenAffleck [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVIpW25r9uY advocating a bat sanctuary]].
* Zack Snyder Creator/ZackSnyder gets a lot of hate from people that claim he "doesn't get Superman" or created a universe that's too dark and depressing. This movie adapts ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'', a comic written by Creator/FrankMiller that that, in large part, treats Superman as just an ineffective weapon that does what he's told without question, but paints Batman as ''completely in the wrong''. Even more so when you consider how the movie version of Clark represents immigrants and the treatment of Muslims in the US post-9/11, which provides a heavy contrast against Miller's islamophobia.
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* Since its release, the movie has been panned by critics and received a very mixed reception among audiences. However, a number of people, even ones who didn't like the movie, have been showing their support for the cast, saying that the movie is either not as bad as critics say it is or that despite the film being lackluster, the actors are not at fault and gave excellent performances with the material they had, with special mention going to the performances given by Ben Affleck and Gal Gadot. This has not gone unnoticed by Henry Cavill and Gal Gadot who have since [[http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/henry-cavill-gal-gadot-thank-fans-batman-v-superman-success publicly thanked people for the support they've received]]. Given how difficult it must be for them to be in this situation, one can imagine that they're being 100% sincere.

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* Since its release, the movie has been panned by critics and received a very mixed reception among audiences. However, a number of people, even ones who didn't like the movie, have been showing their support for the cast, saying that the movie is either not as bad as critics say it is or that despite the film being lackluster, the actors are not at fault and gave excellent performances with the material they had, with special mention going to the performances given by Ben Affleck and Gal Gadot. This has not gone unnoticed by Henry Cavill and Gal Gadot who have since [[http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/henry-cavill-gal-gadot-thank-fans-batman-v-superman-success publicly thanked people for the support they've received]]. Given how difficult it must be for them to be in this situation, one can imagine that they're being 100% sincere.
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--->'''Alfred:''' (''to Bruce'') He is ''not'' our enemy.

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