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*** Palpatine didn’t shoot him. Commander Fox did. Did Palpatine order Fox to kill Fives even when he could easily and safely be arrested? Why would Fox obey such a clearly illegal order? This was well before Order 66 was activated. And why wouldn’t Anakin and Rex and the other clones respond by arresting Fox?
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** If Ventress’s body were found, it would pretty much kill the “Ventress attacked Ahsoka” narrative Barriss was trying to establish.
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**** I wonder if the people in charge gave her more creative freedom as an apology for putting her in the firing line for the more insane parts of the fandom over the clone troop debate/debacle, and this was them trying to walk that back.
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*** [[Series/TheMandalorian Well, Kriea was wrong on those points...]]


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*** She did. Apparently, she was difficult to work with, refusing to collaborate with other writers on ''Literature/LegacyOfTheForce'' and expecting her opinions to be treated as immutable facts. There were also problems with her more rabid fans -- the ones who treated her opinions as immutable facts -- being hostile to other fans and creators. The Mandalore arc comes off as an invitation for Traviss and these fans to kindly knock it off or show themselves out.
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** "The Hidden Enemy" proves that in addition to raping continuity (as Wook put it), this cartoon is guilty of [[IncrediblyLamePun general, grievous]] acts of Travissty.

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** "The Hidden Enemy" proves that in addition to raping continuity (as Wook put it), this cartoon is guilty of [[IncrediblyLamePun [[{{Pun}} general, grievous]] acts of Travissty.
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* He was bisected above the pelvis. He's lost most of his excretory apparatus if near-human species == near-human anatomy.

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* The mention of the clones being possible victims of slavery FromACertainPointOfView reminds me of something that's bugged me about Old Republic Jedi. Remember the "Children of the Force" arc, where they had infants who couldn't even speak (let alone make life decisions) scheduled to be taken to the Jedi Temple? Think about it: we are talking about people giving up their babies, and having those babies told what to do and what to think and what to feel from then on. Luke ''chose'' to be a Jedi, but with these babies that choice is taken away from them. And are they even allowed to see their parents after they begin Jedi training? If so, would they ''remember'' their parents at all?

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* The mention of the clones being possible victims of slavery FromACertainPointOfView in a MetaphoricallyTrue sense reminds me of something that's bugged me about Old Republic Jedi. Remember the "Children of the Force" arc, where they had infants who couldn't even speak (let alone make life decisions) scheduled to be taken to the Jedi Temple? Think about it: we are talking about people giving up their babies, and having those babies told what to do and what to think and what to feel from then on. Luke ''chose'' to be a Jedi, but with these babies that choice is taken away from them. And are they even allowed to see their parents after they begin Jedi training? If so, would they ''remember'' their parents at all?
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** Most likely because Palpatine considered Fives ''way'' too dangerous to be left alive, since he had knowledge of a conspiracy that Palpatine was behind. Even if he was arrested, he could still squeal, divulging what he knows about the chips, Order 66, and Palpatine's involvement with both, before potentially being executed for supposedly trying to assassinate the Chancellor.


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* In the fugitive arc, Ahsoka makes a deal with Ventress that if the latter helps her, Ahsoka will vouch for her to the Republic and clear her name, because she's apparently still a wanted woman by the Republic. Yet in the Season 4 finale, Ventress was the one who rescued Obi-Wan from Maul and Savage, and they escaped the brothers' ship together. Wouldn't ''that'' have cleared Ventress' name, rescuing a Jedi Master and Republic war hero, not to mention that she wasn't motivated by money or being owed a favor of some kind? There's no way that Obi-Wan wouldn't have returned to the Jedi Temple and gone, "You know, Ventress isn't as evil as we thought she was - she was the one who rescued me from Maul", right?
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* Why wasn’t the blaster on stun?
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** FridgeLogic: Perhaps that's specifically WHY the feature was added? Or perhaps auxiliary combat damaged impaired the systems? Further brilliance suggests that they may of not put it in the torso because where do you think a slash from a lightsaber is more likely to go, the head or the torso, based on size ratio? Presume the Jedi is capable of getting past the [=MagnaGuard's=] electrostaff defenses for this scenario.

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** FridgeLogic: Perhaps that's specifically WHY the feature was added? Or perhaps auxiliary combat damaged impaired the systems? Further brilliance suggests that they may of have not put it in the torso because where do you think a slash from a lightsaber is more likely to go, the head or the torso, based on size ratio? Presume the Jedi is capable of getting past the [=MagnaGuard's=] electrostaff defenses for this scenario.
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* During "Holocron Heist", the Jedi see that the door to their incredibly valuable vault full of MacGuffins has been cracked open. What do they do? All go the other way, without having someone keep an eye on the vault, despite the fact that Yoda and Mace Windu are already in the room they're going to investigate. Later on, Bane puts on a Clone Trooper's helmet, and sits within coughing distance of two Jedi, one of whom even says he can "Still feel him," and yet neither of them looks at the suddenly oddly-behaving Clone Trooper and uses their highly-developed telepathic powers to sense a stranger in the room. Maybe his species just emits Stupidity Pheromones.

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* During "Holocron Heist", the Jedi see that the door to their incredibly valuable vault full of MacGuffins {{MacGuffin}}s has been cracked open. What do they do? All go the other way, without having someone keep an eye on the vault, despite the fact that Yoda and Mace Windu are already in the room they're going to investigate. Later on, Bane puts on a Clone Trooper's helmet, and sits within coughing distance of two Jedi, one of whom even says he can "Still feel him," and yet neither of them looks at the suddenly oddly-behaving Clone Trooper and uses their highly-developed telepathic powers to sense a stranger in the room. Maybe his species just emits Stupidity Pheromones.



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** AnachronicOrder, remember? They can show it any time they want. And what, no ones wants to comment on how they ruined ''Franchise/StarWars'' forever by making the Force [[RecycledINSPACE Zoroastrianism IN SPACE]]?

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** AnachronicOrder, remember? They can show it any time they want. And what, no ones wants to comment on how they ruined ''Franchise/StarWars'' forever by making the Force [[RecycledINSPACE [[JustForFun/RecycledINSPACE Zoroastrianism IN SPACE]]?



** I would say it's Force Taoism. With pseudo-gods and all. There even was a Yin-Yang symbol on the floor during Anakin's "test". And Star Wars always had eastern religions [[RecycledINSPACE IN SPACE]].

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** I would say it's Force Taoism. With pseudo-gods and all. There even was a Yin-Yang symbol on the floor during Anakin's "test". And Star Wars always had eastern religions [[RecycledINSPACE [[JustForFun/RecycledINSPACE IN SPACE]].
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* During Carnage of Krell, [[spoiler:Waxer reveals that his platoon was given the same orders that Krell gave Rex and the 501st]], but if he's part of the 212th (Obi-Wan's battalion), then why were those troopers in contact with and taking orders from [[spoiler:Krell]] and not Obi-Wan and/or Commander Cody? I get that out-of-series, it was probably the writers viewing that as the best option to make the [[spoiler:friendly fire incident]] work, but I'm still confused by how it's meant to work in-universe.
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** Be that as it may, how easy can it be to leave if you've been a Jedi since the time you were an infant and were raised in the temple, possibly never meeting your family? If it's all that you know? Even if you're unhappy in the order, I doubt it's very easy to just turn in your lightsaber and walk away. And if citing EU stuff like KOTOR is fair game, then how about Roan Shryne from ''Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader''? Shryne was given to the Jedi by his father, without his mother finding out about it until it was too late. She was understandably upset by this and left the bastard. Shryne never met her until he was forty years old, and by then the Jedi had conditioned him to the point where his response was basically "You're my mother? Well, that's not important. Let's talk about something else. ''Please''." And also, in ''Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter'' we learn of [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lorn_Pavan Lorn Pavan]], whose was literally separated from his infant son against his will. Considering all of the MoralDissonance we see from the Jedi in this tv show, stuff like this from the EU doesn't seem too far-fetched.

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** Be that as it may, how easy can it be to leave if you've been a Jedi since the time you were an infant and were raised in the temple, possibly never meeting your family? If it's all that you know? Even if you're unhappy in the order, I doubt it's very easy to just turn in your lightsaber and walk away. And if citing EU stuff like KOTOR is fair game, then how about Roan Shryne from ''Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader''? Shryne was given to the Jedi by his father, without his mother finding out about it until it was too late. She was understandably upset by this and left the bastard. Shryne never met her until he was forty years old, and by then the Jedi had conditioned him to the point where his response was basically "You're my mother? Well, that's not important. Let's talk about something else. ''Please''." And also, in ''Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter'' we learn of [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lorn_Pavan Lorn Pavan]], whose was literally separated from his infant son against his will. Considering all of the MoralDissonance questionable morality we see from the Jedi in this tv show, stuff like this from the EU doesn't seem too far-fetched.



* Obi-Wan's speech about honor at the end of the Citadel trilogy kinda has a bit of MoralDissonance for me. So, the Jedi don't want to risk losing their honor, even if it gets billions killed? I know what they were getting at, considering that while he's talking, we are looking at the guy who would proceed to order the obliteration of Alderaan and numerous other atrocities, I just kinda wish Obi-Wan added "[[AndThatsTerrible And then we risk becoming]] [[HeWhoFightsMonsters no better than whom we fight.]]"

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* Obi-Wan's speech about honor at the end of the Citadel trilogy kinda has a bit of MoralDissonance BrokenAesop for me. So, the Jedi don't want to risk losing their honor, even if it gets billions killed? I know what they were getting at, considering that while he's talking, we are looking at the guy who would proceed to order the obliteration of Alderaan and numerous other atrocities, I just kinda wish Obi-Wan added "[[AndThatsTerrible And then we risk becoming]] [[HeWhoFightsMonsters no better than whom we fight.]]"
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** The whole war is a front, but that means Dooku still has to make it look real. If he orders an invasion of a nuetral planet, it would make him look bad with the rest of the Seperatist. The Republic being there would at least give him the pretense of attacking the enemy.

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** The whole war is a front, but that means Dooku still has to make it look real. If he orders an invasion of a nuetral neutral planet, it would make him look bad with the rest of the Seperatist.Seperatists. The Republic being there would at least give him the pretense of attacking the enemy.
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** Maybe they were waiting for Mace to call back and agree to meeting on his own? After all, if they gave an initial location then there was always the chance that the Republic could be sent there to intercept them.


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** The whole war is a front, but that means Dooku still has to make it look real. If he orders an invasion of a nuetral planet, it would make him look bad with the rest of the Seperatist. The Republic being there would at least give him the pretense of attacking the enemy.
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* A key detail of the Mandalore arcs is that the Republic cannot deploy troops on the planet against Death Watch as their war is only with the Separatists (until the last week of the Clone Wars when the Jedi decide “screw it” and approve an attack.) During the first Mandalore arc, Dooku refuses to send CIS troops to Mandalore unless the Republic Army lands there first. But Dooku knows that the entire war is a front for Sidious to claim worlds for the budding Empire under the guise of being “rescued” from the CIS. He frequently sets traps of invading worlds then sabotaging his own troops while the Republic occupies the planets. So why is he unwilling to attack Mandalore and let the Republic storm in like all the other times?
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** While the Zillo beast is rampaging, Palpatine is talking on billboards about how the Jedi will contain the situation. Perhaps he intended for it to escape, perhaps he didn't and decided to make use of the situation, either way, he takes advantage of the Beast's rampage to point the finger at the Jedi as the ones who will deal with it - and thus the ones indrectly responsible for the destruction it causes, by failing to contain it immediately. This is part of an ongoing effort to destroy the Jedi Order's credibility with the public in the lead-up to Order 66.

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** According to [[TheWiki Wookieepedia]], there were a few methods of becoming a master, which were:

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** YES! It could help prevent his fall to the dark side, and he'd gain access to knowledge that can help him save Padme. Besides, I like Anakin.
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* In “Lethal Trackdown”, Boba and Aurra Sing demand Mace Windu come to them or else they will kill Republic hostages. However, they don’t give a location or any hint as to where to come, resulting in the Jedi having to figure out where to go themselves. Why would the bounty hunters demand Mace duel them without giving him a way to fulfill that end of the bargain?
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** There are too many extenuating circumstances in Anakin's fall to blame it purely on Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan was knighted and given a padawan (with a ridiculous amount of problems, I might add) long before he was ready. Being strict was likely the only way to establish control of the situation, since the Council didn't have much faith in him ''or'' Anakin. The only guidelines he had for training Anakin came from Qui-Gon Jinn, who wasn't exactly the most amiable Jedi master to Obi-Wan (at least at first) because of the betrayal of his first apprentice Xanatos. Furthermore, we know that while Obi-Wan was critical, he was the only one who consistently defended Anakin in front of the Council. We know that both Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan ''really'' mellowed with age: compare the first ''Jedi Apprentice'' book with Qui-Gon in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'', and see how much warmer Obi-Wan is ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. And, lastly, communication is a two-way street. There are concerns in ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' that Anakin never airs to his master. You might say it's because he feared his concerns would be easily dismissed, but you can't solve a problem if you only vent it to the one person (Padmé) who can't do anything about it. Yes, I think Obi-Wan could have done more to understand Anakin. Even if he was raised at the Temple and against forming attachments, [[NotSoDifferent he had anger issues in his youth too]], and even deserted the Order at one time. But maybe that's why he's critical to Anakin: because he's seen where he's made so many mistakes, and he doesn't want Anakin to do the same. Maybe if Obi-Wan and Anakin had actually listened to each other more often, if Palpatine hadn't been poisoning Anakin against them, if [[BecauseDestinySaysSo destiny hadn't said so]]... it all might have been avoided. But you know how it goes.

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** There are too many extenuating circumstances in Anakin's fall to blame it purely on Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan was knighted and given a padawan (with a ridiculous amount of problems, I might add) long before he was ready. Being strict was likely the only way to establish control of the situation, since the Council didn't have much faith in him ''or'' Anakin. The only guidelines he had for training Anakin came from Qui-Gon Jinn, who wasn't exactly the most amiable Jedi master to Obi-Wan (at least at first) because of the betrayal of his first apprentice Xanatos. Furthermore, we know that while Obi-Wan was critical, he was the only one who consistently defended Anakin in front of the Council. We know that both Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan ''really'' mellowed with age: compare the first ''Jedi Apprentice'' book with Qui-Gon in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'', and see how much warmer Obi-Wan is ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. And, lastly, communication is a two-way street. There are concerns in ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' that Anakin never airs to his master. You might say it's because he feared his concerns would be easily dismissed, but you can't solve a problem if you only vent it to the one person (Padmé) who can't do anything about it. Yes, I think Obi-Wan could have done more to understand Anakin. Even if he was raised at the Temple and against forming attachments, [[NotSoDifferent he had anger issues in his youth too]], too, and even deserted the Order at one time. But maybe that's why he's critical to Anakin: because he's seen where he's made so many mistakes, and he doesn't want Anakin to do the same. Maybe if Obi-Wan and Anakin had actually listened to each other more often, if Palpatine hadn't been poisoning Anakin against them, if [[BecauseDestinySaysSo destiny hadn't said so]]... it all might have been avoided. But you know how it goes.
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* Ahsoka's appearance in relation to others of her species. All the other Togruta in the canon have had red skin and large patches of white over their eyes. Ahsoka, however, is orange, with small, stripey white markings. Also, Togruta typically have dark eyes, but Ahsoka's eyes are very distinctly and obviously blue. [[FlatWhat What.]]

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* Ahsoka's appearance in relation to others of her species. All the other Togruta in the canon have had red skin and large patches of white over their eyes. Ahsoka, however, is orange, with small, stripey white markings. Also, Togruta typically have dark eyes, but Ahsoka's eyes are very distinctly and obviously blue. [[FlatWhat What.]]
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** [[WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheBadBatch Cut was, as noted above, too far away and not a commander when the order was given. The Batch on the other hand, were immune to it thanks to their genetic modifications. Though as Crosshair proves, it doesn't take much to activate it...]]
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** It seems possible that Hunter, leader of the [[WesternAnimation/TheBadBatch Bad Batch]] might be Force sensitive. Since his tracking abilities seem to be similar to those of Jedi master Quinlan Vos.

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** It seems possible that Hunter, leader of the [[WesternAnimation/BadBatch Bad Batch]] might be Force sensitive. Since his tracking abilities seem to be similar to those of Jedi master Quinlan Vos.

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** It seems possible that Hunter, leader of the [[WesternAnimation/BadBatch Bad Batch]] might be Force sensitive. Since his tracking abilities seem to be similar to those of Jedi master Quinlan Vos.
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** In Star Wars Legends, she was pardoned for her crimes (yes, really) and ended up getting killed on Felucia during Order 66. No word on what happens to her in Canon.
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* What the heck happened to Barriss? Last we see her, she's being taken away to who knows where to pay for her crime of helping bomb the Jedi Temple. But what happened after?
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** Knowing Hondo, he would've fibbed about the Jedi having already left. After that, he would most definitely have sold the two to the Separatists. This is Hondo afterall.
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** I have a theory as to why the chip went haywire, but it's a bit of a long shot. If you recall, it was Tup who stunned Krell back on Umbara. In other words, he successfully shot a Jedi. He technically executed Order 66 early. The only other Clone we know that actually did this is Dogma, who killed Krell, and from the looks of the ending of that arc, he's going to prison, where I doubt he'd encounter any Jedi. So Tup successfully shooting Krell, plus still going into battle alongside more Jedi could’ve strained thr chip.

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