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* Yeah, that part freaked me out and made me not like his character for the rest of the series.
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* Probably because this show is more queer than your average episode of ''The Simpsons''. Queer things often get more censored than similarly graphic straight things. Stupid guardians.
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** Well,In episode 25,one of Tamaki's clinet's mother had stated her disapprovel of the club. Cue Tamaki going all 'Oh my, what a pretty lady' on her and she soon swoons over Tamaki like her daughter does. Who's to say Tamaki((althouhg ever word that comes out his mouth is geniune.))Hasn't done this before to all the Host Club Client's parents((More likely the mothers,than the fathers though.))
** OP, you would be enraged at a club that consists of only a handful of members (only two named in the manga), the leader of which walks around the school with a puppet and suffers from severe photophobia? I'm pretty sure any parent who was worried about the Black Magic Club would only need to attend a meeting to see that they aren't exactly a threat to the well being of the other students. High schools and colleges have silly clubs all the time- [[HarryPotter real-life-quidditch teams]] and Dungeons&Dragons clubs are both common enough. I fail to see the real issue with kids acting gothy and pretending they can do magic (when, obviously, they can't). Add to that the fact that the very rich tend to be less than concerned with actual parenting- they might worry about their kids grades, but it's unlikely they would talk to them enough that such a random and over all unimportant club would come up in conversation. Plus, there's the fact that Nekozawa himself seems to be fairly flush. If ever he received a complaint, I'm guessing he would just donate a new wing to the school.
** From what I've seen, the Host Club in ''Ouran'' isn't that different from a real one. The only difference I'm aware of is the fact that real host clubs involve fancy imported alcohol and live performances. The Ouran students are underage so they can't have alcohol and they're on a school budget (and Kyoya's probably really cheap) so they can't afford live performances. From what I've read about real host clubs, they sound more like cabarets than anything more...shocking like how everyone tends to react when they hear "host club".

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** * Well,In episode 25,one of Tamaki's clinet's mother had stated her disapprovel of the club. Cue Tamaki going all 'Oh my, what a pretty lady' on her and she soon swoons over Tamaki like her daughter does. Who's to say Tamaki((althouhg ever word that comes out his mouth is geniune.))Hasn't done this before to all the Host Club Client's parents((More likely the mothers,than the fathers though.))
** * OP, you would be enraged at a club that consists of only a handful of members (only two named in the manga), the leader of which walks around the school with a puppet and suffers from severe photophobia? I'm pretty sure any parent who was worried about the Black Magic Club would only need to attend a meeting to see that they aren't exactly a threat to the well being of the other students. High schools and colleges have silly clubs all the time- [[HarryPotter real-life-quidditch teams]] and Dungeons&Dragons clubs are both common enough. I fail to see the real issue with kids acting gothy and pretending they can do magic (when, obviously, they can't). Add to that the fact that the very rich tend to be less than concerned with actual parenting- they might worry about their kids grades, but it's unlikely they would talk to them enough that such a random and over all unimportant club would come up in conversation. Plus, there's the fact that Nekozawa himself seems to be fairly flush. If ever he received a complaint, I'm guessing he would just donate a new wing to the school.
** * From what I've seen, the Host Club in ''Ouran'' isn't that different from a real one. The only difference I'm aware of is the fact that real host clubs involve fancy imported alcohol and live performances. The Ouran students are underage so they can't have alcohol and they're on a school budget (and Kyoya's probably really cheap) so they can't afford live performances. From what I've read about real host clubs, they sound more like cabarets than anything more...shocking like how everyone tends to react when they hear "host club".


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* RuleOfFunny and MST3KMantra are your friends on this one.


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* Either RuleOfFunny or the fact that Haruhi doesn't really get the implications behind it. In addition, it's the twins. For the most part, with the twins, Haruhi just sort of ''takes'' it. If it were Tamaki that did it, she'd probably hit him or something. As it was Kaoru, it was different. You forget, I guess, that Haruhi spends around 7-9 hours of her days with the two; she's used to their antics.
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** It's probably this. Also, at least in the English dub of the anime, Fuyumi cites herself as the ''third'' child ("Our older brothers" is what she says to Kyouya, and since she's older than he is, that makes her the third child, not one of Kyouya's brothers). Fuyumi has probably not only never really cared to be the heir with two older brothers to compete for it, but when Kyouya showed interest in taking over the company, probably gave up any sort of desire she may have had for the company in Kyouya's favour, believing that Kyouya would succeed above the rest. Fuyumi doesn't seem the sort to be able to manage a company, if her inability to pack Kyouya's dresser is any indication of her ability to organise.



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*** It's noted fairly early on that Haruhi is rather flat-chested, so there wouldn't really be much of a cleavage to show.
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** From what I've seen, the Host Club in ''Ouran'' isn't that different from a real one. The only difference I'm aware of is the fact that real host clubs involve fancy imported alcohol and live performances. The Ouran students are underage so they can't have alcohol and they're on a school budget (and Kyoya's probably really cheap) so they can't afford live performances. From what I've read about real host clubs, they sound more like cabarets than anything more...shocking like how everyone tends to react when they hear "host club".




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*** Or a wig.
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* RuleOfFunny. Also, this troper thinks that the Haruhi's androgyny, is an AffectionateParody (among many others) of the somewhat (ahem) feminine look that {{bishounen}} males have in {{shojo}} manga/anime. It's also possible that there's a play on the [[OnlySixFaces standard character design]] in use; the idea that a group of guys couldn't tell that Haruhi was a pretty girl who regularly had boys fawning over her simply because she wore a sweater instead of a dress is itself ridiculous.
** It wasn't just the sweater though. She was wearing thick glasses, looked generally disheveled, her hair was unkempt and cut short, and - no doubt thanks to her [[WholesomeCrossdresser father]] - didn't exactly act or talk like girls normally do. Besides, aside from [[IdiotHero Tamaki]] the club members did caught on quickly about her true gender.

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* RuleOfFunny. Also, this troper thinks I think that the Haruhi's androgyny, is an AffectionateParody (among many others) of the somewhat (ahem) feminine look that {{bishounen}} males have in {{shojo}} manga/anime. It's also possible that there's a play on the [[OnlySixFaces standard character design]] in use; the idea that a group of guys couldn't tell that Haruhi was a pretty girl who regularly had boys fawning over her simply because she wore a sweater instead of a dress is itself ridiculous.
** It wasn't just the sweater though. She was wearing thick glasses, looked generally disheveled, her hair was unkempt and cut short, and - no doubt thanks to her [[WholesomeCrossdresser father]] - didn't exactly act or talk like girls normally do. Besides, aside from [[IdiotHero Tamaki]] the club members did caught catch on quickly about her true gender.



* This troper always thought the "Which One's Hikaru Game" was just something the twins would do now and then because they were bored. No one was ever supposed to win. That's why they were so affected when they found out Haruhi could tell them apart.

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* This troper I always thought the "Which One's Hikaru Game" was just something the twins would do now and then because they were bored. No one was ever supposed to win. That's why they were so affected when they found out Haruhi could tell them apart.



** It's ThisTroper's opinion that it's very possible to tell on repeat viewings - Hikaru tends to speak first and be slightly more bold, while Kaoru tends to be the one immediately agreeing - but if that's the case, then in at least a third of the shown cases, they boldly lie about which is which.

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** It's ThisTroper's my opinion that it's very possible to tell on repeat viewings - Hikaru tends to speak first and be slightly more bold, while Kaoru tends to be the one immediately agreeing - but if that's the case, then in at least a third of the shown cases, they boldly lie about which is which.



* This Troper assumed that he knew because he saw her application to get in. The scholarship does come from him (or at least his family) after all. The episode "Haruhi in Wonderland", while it is a dream, does imply that Tamaki's dad had met both her and her father back when she had long hair.

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* This Troper I assumed that he knew because he saw her application to get in. The scholarship does come from him (or at least his family) after all. The episode "Haruhi in Wonderland", while it is a dream, does imply that Tamaki's dad had met both her and her father back when she had long hair.
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[[WMG: Why was Haruhi's reaction to the twins for [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BUeYUhM1x8 the infamous cookie scene]] so bland? I figured she would be more annoyed with them ''licking'' her face...]]

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[[WMG: Why didn't Hunny-sempai just go to the dentist]]
In the episode, "Hunny's three bitter days" everything could have been averted if he had just scheduled a dentist appointment after he realized he had a cavity.
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* There are two reasons for a {{Shoujo}} manga to be turned into an anime. The first is to advertise the manga. And the second is to give fans of the manga [[{{Bishounen}} attractive male characters]] (And [[{{Bishoujo}} attractive female characters]] depending on which [[FruitsBasket manga]] it is) that are in color and move which is much better than black and white still pictures.

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* There are two reasons for a {{Shoujo}} manga to be turned into an anime. The first is to advertise the manga. And the second is to give fans of the manga [[{{Bishounen}} attractive male characters]] (And [[{{Bishoujo}} attractive female characters]] characters depending on which [[FruitsBasket manga]] it is) that are in color and move which is much better than black and white still pictures.
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* I think the implication was that she had never had the need for a passport before and it would take her too long to get one for the Bali trip. She probably never had the means, need or desire to travel internationally before (and then wouldn't need to get a passport), which isn't really all that uncommon. Why waste money and time on getting a passport if you aren't going to use it in the immediate future?
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* Not everyone is straight, a girl, and/or always likes girls who specifically adhere to a certain look.

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look. She often looks like a cute girl in boys clothes.
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[[WMG: Why did Haruhi never get a passport?]]
Seeing as the twins offered to take her to ''Bali'' but couldn't because of a lack of a passport, why did she never get one? Is there some restriction on international travel in Japan?
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** OP, you would be enraged at a club that consists of only a handful of members (only two named in the manga), the leader of which walks around the school with a puppet and suffers from severe photophobia? I'm pretty sure any parent who was worried about the Black Magic Club would only need to attend a meeting to see that they aren't exactly a threat to the well being of the other students. High schools and colleges have silly clubs all the time- [[HarryPotter real-life-quidditch teams]] and Dungeons&Dragons clubs are both common enough. I fail to see the real issue with kids acting gothy and pretending they can do magic (when, obviously, they can't). Add to that the fact that the very rich tend to be less than concerned with actual parenting- they might worry about their kids grades, but it's unlikely they would talk to them enough that such a random and over all unimportant club would come up in conversation. Plus, there's the fact that Nekozawa himself seems to be fairly flush. If ever he received a complaint, I'm guessing he would just donate a new wing to the school.
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****Having just watched the episode, I can confirm it was cosplay for the new installment of the video game she's obsessed with (UkiDoki something or other).
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*** Are you sure? Because I could have sworn I remember her saying something about it being the new girls' uniform for Ouran when she was talking.
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** She was just cosplaying.
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[[WMG: What's with the new school uniforms they tried to introduce?]]
* I believe it was in the Halloween episode. Renge does a dramatic entrance and then starts going on about how the girls at Ouran will be changing from the big, yellow, PimpedOutDress uniform to a more normal, pink school girl uniform. And then... we never see that uniform again. As far as I can remember, the other girls never wore the new uniforms. So, what was up with Renge introducing them? Did they plan on using them if Ouran got a second season or something?
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**Hair extensions, duh!
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*What is with Haruhi's hair? We have seen it long on at least three ocasions I can think off (The dancea party, her date with Hikaru, the final episode.) And at least one of those times she was wearing a wig. But the other times the sudden growth in hair is unexplained!
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* You have to remember that she wasn't crossdressing on purpose- she just wore what she felt like and didn't care how it looked. And she was only there to work for them and pay for the vase; they hadn't planned on making her a club member until they saw how [[{{SheCleansUpNicely}} nicely she cleans up.]] They eventually just made her host without everybody realizing she was a girl, then when they figured it out, they just didn't get rid of her. It's really less "Dress as a man so you can work for us" and more "Work for us to pay off your debt- oh, you're a girl? Well you still need to pay off the debt."
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** It's not the least bit surprising nobody questioned her name. Disregarding names that were '''at one time''' almost exclusively given to men ("Shannon") and names that are seen as gender neutral ("Cameron"), I've personally encountered ''plenty'' of "male" names given to females; Tyler, Taylor, Alex, Jordan, Blake, Adrian, Chris, Drew, Bryce, Devon, Max... While I listed recent American/modern Western European naming trends, anyone who is even a cursory anime fan knows that Japanese naming conventions in terms of gender are similar to the modern West. On a side-note, I've noticed that it's much more rare to give a male a feminine name than it is to give a girl a masculine name.
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*** While the 'Jackass' comment was a bit jarring (yet still [[CrowningMomentOfFunny hilarious]), the "You bastard..." line is actually justified considering the situation. Tamaki just walked in on [[spoiler: Haruhi, the girl he's in love with, and a half naked Kyoya standing next to a bed together]]. He probably jumped to conclusions (this IS Tamaki after all) and became angry thinking [[spoiler: Haruhi was about to be assualted and by his best friend even]]. We all know that's not the case, but I digress. We already know Tamaki'd have no qualms against beating up anyone who hurt Haruhi, so swearing at the 'assailant' shouldn't be too out there.

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*** While the 'Jackass' comment was a bit jarring (yet still [[CrowningMomentOfFunny hilarious]), hilarious]]), the "You bastard..." line is actually sort of justified considering the situation. Tamaki just walked in on [[spoiler: Haruhi, the girl he's in love with, and a half naked Kyoya standing next to a bed together]]. He probably jumped to conclusions (this IS Tamaki after all) and became angry thinking [[spoiler: Haruhi was about to be assualted and by his best friend even]]. We all know that's not the case, but I digress. We already know Tamaki'd have no qualms against beating up anyone who hurt Haruhi, so swearing at the 'assailant' shouldn't be too out there.
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*** While the 'Jackass' comment was a bit jarring (yet still [[CrowningMomentOfFunny hilarious]), the "You bastard..." line is actually justified considering the situation. Tamaki just walked in on [[spoiler: Haruhi, the girl he's in love with, and a half naked Kyoya standing next to a bed together]]. He probably jumped to conclusions (this IS Tamaki after all) and became angry thinking [[spoiler: Haruhi was about to be assualted and by his best friend even]]. We all know that's not the case, but I digress. We already know Tamaki'd have no qualms against beating up anyone who hurt Haruhi, so swearing at the 'assailant' shouldn't be too out there.
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* Maybe she just isn't interested in being the heir.

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