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* AdHominem: Radisson does this after Josh's first speech by simply choosing to namedrop Stephen Hawking, rather than actually debate him, and then asking if he thinks he's smarter than him. Then in the second debate, [[NotSoDifferent Josh does the same thing]], since Stephen Hawking feels philosophy is "dead" (Tu Quoque).

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* AdHominem: Radisson does this after Josh's first speech by simply choosing to namedrop Stephen Hawking, rather than actually debate him, and then asking if he thinks he's smarter than him. Then in the second debate, [[NotSoDifferent Josh does the same thing]], thing, since Stephen Hawking feels philosophy is "dead" (Tu Quoque).



* NotSoDifferent: Both Josh and Radisson use very similar tactics against each other during the debate. It is just not as noticeable since Radisson is so over-the-top villainous and Josh is clearly meant to be portrayed in the right.
** Also, both Josh and Radisson are BastardBoyfriend[=s=] who go through a break-up with their respective girlfriends because of religion/irreligion.
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* AppealToConsequences: Josh's moral argument for God's existence amounts to this, along with a mere assertion fallacy: he states that without God, there's no objective standard for morality, while not actually showing this at all.
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''God's Not Dead'' is a 2014 Creator/PureFlix movie about Josh, a Christian college student who has joined a philosophy class with the firmly atheist Professor Radisson. Radisson demands the students write out the words "God is dead" with their signature to get a passing grade. When Josh refuses, he offers him the chance to debate it, and is determined to humiliate him.

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''God's Not Dead'' is a 2014 Creator/PureFlix Creator/PureFlixEntertainment movie about Josh, a Christian college student who has joined a philosophy class with the firmly atheist Professor Radisson. Radisson demands the students write out the words "God is dead" with their signature to get a passing grade. When Josh refuses, he offers him the chance to debate it, and is determined to humiliate him.

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What he does is quote the Quran rejecting Jesus being divine, which is accurate to Muslim belief.


* ArtisticLicenseReligion:
** The filmmakers clearly do not understand Islamic views on women's dress. While more conservative Muslims do think women should cover their faces, there is no way that Aisha would then wear a top that shows her bare arms and ''cleavage''. That entirely defeats the purpose, keeping them covered.
** While he beats Aisha for being a Christian, her father loudly proclaims to her "There is only one god!" The Muslim God and the Christian God ''are the same being'', not to mention that Jesus is still a revered prophet in Islam.

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ArtisticLicenseReligion: The filmmakers clearly do not understand Islamic views on women's dress. While more conservative Muslims do think women should cover their faces, there is no way that Aisha would then wear a top that shows her bare arms and ''cleavage''. That entirely defeats the purpose, keeping them covered.
** While he beats Aisha for being a Christian, her father loudly proclaims to her "There is only one god!" The Muslim God and the Christian God ''are the same being'', not to mention that Jesus is still a revered prophet in Islam.
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* ArtisticLicenseReligion: The filmmakers clearly do not understand Islamic views on women's dress. While more conservative Muslims do think women should cover their faces, there is no way that Aisha would then wear a top that shows her bare arms and ''cleavage''. That entirely defeats the purpose, keeping them covered.

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The filmmakers clearly do not understand Islamic views on women's dress. While more conservative Muslims do think women should cover their faces, there is no way that Aisha would then wear a top that shows her bare arms and ''cleavage''. That entirely defeats the purpose, keeping them covered.covered.
** While he beats Aisha for being a Christian, her father loudly proclaims to her "There is only one god!" The Muslim God and the Christian God ''are the same being'', not to mention that Jesus is still a revered prophet in Islam.
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* AppealToAuthority: All Radisson does to challenge the Cosmological Argument is to name-drop Steven Hawking, and makes no attempt to dispute any part of the actual argument. Odd behavior for a professor of philosophy, particularly since Hawking is not a philosopher (he's even said "philosophy is dead", as Josh points out) and many rebuttals to the Cosmological Argument exist that you'd think he would know about. Josh also does this with his moral argument for God's existence. The only thing he says to support this is quoting the well-known "If God does not exist, then everything is permitted" line from ''Literature/TheBrothersKaramazov'' by Creator/FyodorDostoevsky (it's [[BeamMeUpScotty really]] "if there is no immortality, then everything is permitted", but gets commonly misquoted).

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* AppealToAuthority: All Radisson does to challenge the Cosmological Argument is to name-drop Steven Hawking, and makes no attempt to dispute any part of the actual argument. Odd behavior for a professor of philosophy, particularly since Hawking is not a philosopher (he's even said "philosophy is dead", as Josh points out) and many rebuttals to the Cosmological Argument exist that you'd think he would know about. Josh also does this with his moral argument for God's existence. The only thing he says to support this is quoting the well-known "If God does not exist, then everything is permitted" line from ''Literature/TheBrothersKaramazov'' by Creator/FyodorDostoevsky (it's [[BeamMeUpScotty really]] really "if there is no immortality, then everything is permitted", but gets commonly misquoted).



** The popular Christian band "Newsboys" shows up for the GrandFinale. However an interesting take as for a cameo they take up a good portion of the ending to the film. Some critics have joked they believed this entire film was an excuse just to have a Newsboys concert.

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** The popular Christian band "Newsboys" Newsboys shows up for the GrandFinale. However an interesting take as for a cameo they take up a good portion of the ending to the film. Some critics have joked they believed this entire film was an excuse just to have a Newsboys concert.



* DownerEnding, even for the fundamentalist Christian "[[DesignatedHero hero]]". [[spoiler:Sure, Josh gets some people to believe in God, but by the end of this film, Josh lost his girlfriend of six years, Radisson is killed, Mina doesn't realize that Radisson was killed coming to apologize to her, Martin probably put his entire family at risk because of his newfound belief, Amy is likely to die a painful death from cancer very soon, Ayisha has been disowned and is now homeless, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Dave and Jude never got to go to Disney World]].]] If it wasn't for the upbeat music, one would realize that because of Josh everyone is a lot worse off.

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* DownerEnding, even for DownerEnding: Even the fundamentalist Christian "[[DesignatedHero hero]]".protagonist gets one. [[spoiler:Sure, Josh gets some people to believe in God, but by the end of this film, Josh lost his girlfriend of six years, Radisson is killed, Mina doesn't realize that Radisson was killed coming to apologize to her, Martin probably put his entire family at risk because of his newfound belief, Amy is likely to die a painful death from cancer very soon, Ayisha has been disowned and is now homeless, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Dave and Jude never got to go to Disney World]].]] If it wasn't for the upbeat music, one would realize that because of Josh everyone is a lot worse off.
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* TakeThat: Generally against atheists, but also against left-wing college professors, and to a lesser degree Muslims.

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* TakeThat: Generally against Against atheists, but also against left-wing college professors, leftists, Muslims, and to a lesser degree Muslims.pretty much anyone who is non-Christian.
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Added note on Answers in Genesis and their criticisms


** The story has a lot of similarities with the ''ComicBook/{{Chick Tract|s}}'' [[http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0055/0055_01.asp "Big Daddy"]]. One review explicitly describes it as [[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/crossexamined/2014/03/chick-tract-the-movie-review-of-gods-not-dead-atheist/ this]].

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** The story has a lot of similarities with the ''ComicBook/{{Chick Tract|s}}'' [[http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0055/0055_01.asp "Big Daddy"]]. One review explicitly describes it as [[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/crossexamined/2014/03/chick-tract-the-movie-review-of-gods-not-dead-atheist/ this]]. Ironically, the film would be criticized by the group Answers in Genesis (which promotes the Young Earth view of creation[[note]]the belief that Earth and the universe as a whole were created in 6 days at a time roughly 6000-10,000 years ago as opposed to millions of years[[/note]]), which felt that some lines leaned a little too close to promoting theistic evolution, choosing instead to endorse the film ''Film/AMatterOfFaith''; produced by the veteran Christian film production duo of brothers Dave and Rich Christiano.
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Josh doesn't "force" the students to become Christians, they make that choice on their own, as seen under "Easy Evangelism." "Force" would be akin to the forced conversions of medieval Catholic Europe, which is not shown in the film.


* HeWhoFightsMonsters: Josh ''and'' Radisson. Radisson thinks religion is the enemy of reason and that it demands too much obedience from people, as while he forces students to obey and adapt to atheism. Josh meanwhile forces the students to obey and adapt to Christianity, claiming that Christianity is all about freedom.

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* HeWhoFightsMonsters: Josh ''and'' Radisson. Radisson thinks religion is the enemy of reason and that it demands too much obedience from people, as while he forces students to obey and adapt to atheism. Josh meanwhile forces the students to obey and adapt to Christianity, claiming that Christianity is all about freedom.

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* VillainousBreakdown: Radisson has one after Josh repeatedly presses if he hates God, [[JerkAss that he knew full well about since Radisson told him that in private along with his mother's death]], declaring that he always hated him since his mother died.

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** Josh has one when [[AllForNothing all his work and research to prove]] a god does exist fails to make
Radisson admit there is a god, and angrily just screams "Why" over and over.
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has one as a counter-reaction after Josh repeatedly presses if he hates God, [[JerkAss that he knew full well about since Radisson told him that in private along with his mother's death]], declaring that he always hated him since his mother died.
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* BeingGoodSucks: According to Marc Shelley, his mother was a generous and kind-hearted woman her whole life but is now stricken with dementia while he himself is proudly a {{jerkass}} affluent businessman who dumped his girlfriend just for testing positive of cancer as he's assured his wealth will attain him another girl. Marc asks his mother why is this so, and his mother replies that Satan exists as well like God does and that Satan gives strength to atheists as a reward for forsaking their belief in God. Though they both overlook that dementia or wealth and morality have nothing in common, implying that Marc himself also believes in karma and God.

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* BeingGoodSucks: According to Marc Shelley, his mother was a generous and kind-hearted woman her whole life but is now stricken with dementia while he himself is proudly a {{jerkass}} affluent businessman who dumped his girlfriend just for testing positive of for cancer as he's assured his wealth will attain him another girl. Marc asks his mother why is this so, and his mother replies that Satan exists as well like God does and that Satan gives strength to atheists as a reward for forsaking their belief in God. Though they both overlook that dementia or wealth and morality have nothing in common, implying that Marc himself also believes in karma and God.
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* BeingGoodSucks: According to Marc Shelley, his mother was a generous and kind-hearted woman her whole life but is now stricken with dementia while he himself is proudly a {{jerkass}} affluent businessman who dumped his girlfriend just for testing positive of cancer as he's assured his wealth will attain him another girl. Marc asks his mother why is this so, and his mother replies that Satan exists as well like God does and that Satan gives strength to atheists as a reward for forsaking their belief in God. Though they both overlook that dementia or wealth and morality have nothing in common, implying that Marc himself also believes in karma and God.
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* RightBehindMe: After school ends, Ayisha is waiting on the curb for her father to pick her up. She is then approached by a Caucasian girl telling her that she shouldn't be forced to wear a niqaab. Ayisha removes her niqaab from her mouth to talk to her and states that her father is making her for religious reasons. Then suddenly her father pulls up in the car and honks for her attention, forcing Ayisha to immediately re-don her niqaab and come to him.
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** Josh Wheaton's name is spelled a lot like the famous atheist Joss Whedon.
** Josh claimed that he didn't want to drop Philosophy 101 because it would mess up his schedule. What does Josh do outside of Philosophy 101? Rent more than ten books all related to Christianity and start reading them all to prepare for his argument to challenge Radisson. This is clearly a detriment to his study schedule since he has at least two other classes (for credit requirements).
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** Also, this film seems to take place in four consecutive days[[note]] First day of class combined with the three debates[[/note]]. Most college classes don't usually work like that, as they are spaced out by days (often working like Mon-Wed-Friday, Tues-Thurs, Mon-Wed, Mon-Friday or just one day a week). This is done because the classes can be quite long sometimes, where a two-three hour class is the norm. Alhough there are some classes that are every day of the week, those classes are usually an hour or less. It is highly unlikely this applies to this class, as even with how pompous Radisson is, it is doubtful that he had Josh take up half of his class every day.

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** Also, this film seems to take place in four consecutive days[[note]] First day of class combined with the three debates[[/note]]. Most college College classes don't usually work like that, as they are spaced out by days (often working like Mon-Wed-Friday, Tues-Thurs, Mon-Wed, Mon-Friday or just one day a week). This is done because the classes can be quite long sometimes, where a two-three hour class is the norm. Alhough there are some classes that are every day of the week, those classes are usually an hour or less. It is highly unlikely this applies to this class, as even with how pompous Radisson is, it is doubtful that he had Josh take up half of his class every day.
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** Also this film seems to take place in four consecutive days[[note]] First day of class combined with the three debates[[/note]]. Most college classes don't usually work like that as they are spaced out by days (often working like Mon-Wed-Friday, Tues-Thurs, Mon-Wed, Mon-Friday or just one day a week). This is done because the classes can be quite long sometimes where a two-three hour class is the norm. Though there are some classes that are every day of the week but those classes are usually an hour or less. However it is highly unlikely this applies to this class as even with how pompous Radisson is, it is doubtful that he had Josh take up half of his class every day.

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** Also Also, this film seems to take place in four consecutive days[[note]] First day of class combined with the three debates[[/note]]. Most college classes don't usually work like that that, as they are spaced out by days (often working like Mon-Wed-Friday, Tues-Thurs, Mon-Wed, Mon-Friday or just one day a week). This is done because the classes can be quite long sometimes sometimes, where a two-three hour class is the norm. Though Alhough there are some classes that are every day of the week but week, those classes are usually an hour or less. However it It is highly unlikely this applies to this class class, as even with how pompous Radisson is, it is doubtful that he had Josh take up half of his class every day.
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* HeWhoFightsMonsters: Josh ''and'' Radisson. Radisson thinks religion is the enemy of reason and that it demands too much obedience from people, as while he forces students to obey and adapt to atheism. Josh meanwhile forces the students to obey and adapt to Christianity, claiming that Christianity all about freedom.

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* HeWhoFightsMonsters: Josh ''and'' Radisson. Radisson thinks religion is the enemy of reason and that it demands too much obedience from people, as while he forces students to obey and adapt to atheism. Josh meanwhile forces the students to obey and adapt to Christianity, claiming that Christianity is all about freedom.
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* HeWhoFightsMonsters: Josh ''and'' Radisson. Radisson thinks religion is the enemy of reason and that it demands too much obedience from people, as while he forces students to obey and adapt to atheism. Josh meanwhile forces the students to obey and adapt to Christianity.

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* HeWhoFightsMonsters: Josh ''and'' Radisson. Radisson thinks religion is the enemy of reason and that it demands too much obedience from people, as while he forces students to obey and adapt to atheism. Josh meanwhile forces the students to obey and adapt to Christianity.Christianity, claiming that Christianity all about freedom.
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* DownerEnding, even for the fundamentalist Christian "hero". [[spoiler:Sure, Josh gets some people to believe in God, but by the end of this film, Josh lost his girlfriend of six years, Radisson is killed, Mina doesn't realize that Radisson was killed coming to apologize to her, Martin probably put his entire family at risk because of his newfound belief, Amy is likely to die a painful death from cancer very soon, Ayisha has been disowned and is now homeless, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Dave and Jude never got to go to Disney World]].]] If it wasn't for the upbeat music, one would realize that because of Josh everyone is a lot worse off.

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* DownerEnding, even for the fundamentalist Christian "hero"."[[DesignatedHero hero]]". [[spoiler:Sure, Josh gets some people to believe in God, but by the end of this film, Josh lost his girlfriend of six years, Radisson is killed, Mina doesn't realize that Radisson was killed coming to apologize to her, Martin probably put his entire family at risk because of his newfound belief, Amy is likely to die a painful death from cancer very soon, Ayisha has been disowned and is now homeless, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Dave and Jude never got to go to Disney World]].]] If it wasn't for the upbeat music, one would realize that because of Josh everyone is a lot worse off.
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** Willie Robertson seems to be one too. When he first appears, he asks Amy to understand that he is not propagandizing religion on Duck Dynasty because he and his family openly preach and pray to Jesus, saying that viewers who don't like it can just change the channel, though at the Newsboys concert he pressures the attendees to text at least 100 people whoever they know "God's not dead" regardless of if that person believes in a god or not. Because of Willie's campaigning, Martin decides to send that same message to his father, who is an anti-atheist.

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** Willie Robertson seems to be one too. When he first appears, he asks Amy to understand that he is not propagandizing religion on Duck Dynasty because he and his family openly preach and pray to Jesus, saying that viewers who don't like it can just change the channel, though at the Newsboys concert he pressures the attendees to text at least 100 people whoever they know "God's not dead" regardless of if that person believes in a god or not. Because of Willie's campaigning, Martin decides to send that same message to his father, who is an anti-atheist.atheist.
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** Willie Robertson seems to be one too. When he first appears, he asks Amy to understand that he is not propagandizing religion on Duck Dynasty because he and his family openly preach and pray to Jesus, saying that viewers who don't like it can just change the channel, though at the Newsboys concert he pressures the attendees to text at least 100 people "God's not dead" which is ''outright'' propagandizing.

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** Willie Robertson seems to be one too. When he first appears, he asks Amy to understand that he is not propagandizing religion on Duck Dynasty because he and his family openly preach and pray to Jesus, saying that viewers who don't like it can just change the channel, though at the Newsboys concert he pressures the attendees to text at least 100 people whoever they know "God's not dead" which regardless of if that person believes in a god or not. Because of Willie's campaigning, Martin decides to send that same message to his father, who is ''outright'' propagandizing.an anti-atheist.
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* BigBadDuumvirate: [[EvilVsEvil Professor Radisson and Josh Wheaton combined]]. They both believe that God does exist, but selfishly want the philosophy class to take their own side (misotheism or Christianity) on whether God is all-loving or negligent/cruel and uncaring. The two are quite corrupt, as they are reduced to using fanatic tactics such as attacking each other's credibility and flaws rather than arguing why their own side is so much stronger.

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* BigBadDuumvirate: BigBadEnsemble: [[EvilVsEvil Professor Radisson and Josh Wheaton combined]]. They both believe that God does exist, but selfishly want the philosophy class to take their own side (misotheism or Christianity) on whether God is all-loving or negligent/cruel and uncaring. The two are quite corrupt, as they are reduced to using fanatic tactics such as attacking each other's credibility and flaws rather than arguing why their own side is so much stronger.

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* AntiVillain: Ayisha's father, while ultimately one for DisproportionateRetribution, clearly loves his daughter and, it's implied, goes through something of a MyGodWhatHaveIDone in the end.

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Ayisha's father, while ultimately one for DisproportionateRetribution, clearly loves his daughter and, it's implied, goes through something of a MyGodWhatHaveIDone in the end.end.
** Most likely completely unintentional, but Josh as well. He dated his girlfriend for six years, she gave up going to two other colleges just to stay with him, but he coldly dumps her when she gave him the opportunity and she was telling him to do something, then never mentions her again or shows any signs that he misses her. It seems like the film tried to portray her as this because she was trying to get him to stop advocating for God in the debate, but her warning that Radisson would destroy his future was later revealed to be 100% true until averted by the ending.


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* InsaneTrollLogic: Many of the arguments Josh tries to use in his debates pretty much are this, as atheists have debated and debunked all of them multiple times. So as to not start a FlameWar, one example is how Josh tried to debunk a theory that "evolution doesn't jump". Josh does this by shrinking 3.8 billion years into the span of one day to show that evolution did jump in only a few minutes with that example. He leaves out that those few minutes are around 400 million years and that '''anything''' would look like a jump if they were to shrink 3.8 billion years into the span of a day.


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* ItsAllAboutMe: Josh may come across as this. He didn't want to change his class despite being warned because it would have messed with his schedule, he wouldn't agree to something because it went against something he believed in rather than because what the teacher was doing was wrong, and he broke up with his girlfriend since she told him to do something.
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This is not mandatory everywhere in the US. We don't know what state this is. It's also Hollywood Law.


* ArtisticLicenseLaw: Reverend Dave at the end should have been arrested and charged for failing to report vehicular manslaughter (the victim being Radisson) as he did not call an ambulance. Instead, he just forced Radisson to convert to Christianity and told him to be grateful that god gave him a few more minutes to live.
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* ArtisticLicenseLaw: Reverend Dave at the end should have been arrested and charged for failing to report vehicular manslaughter (the victim being Radisson) as he did not call an ambulance. Instead, he just forced Radisson to convert to Christianity and told him to be grateful that god gave him a few more minutes to live.
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* LongList: To drive its agenda home, it ends with a scrolling list of about two dozen court cases involving people successfully suing colleges for religious discrimination, followed by a message encouraging viewers to do the same thing.[[note]]However, most of these were the result of discrimination ''by'' the people suing to begin with (usually against LGBT students).[[/note]]

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* {{Hypocrite}}: Josh. At the beginning Josh admits he isn't fully sure there is a God, then spends all of his time in his debates trying to get everyone to be 100% certain there is a God. For being a "Good Moral Christian" he sure doesn't show it: using screwed up logic, insults, snide remarks and badmouthing Radisson just as much as the "Evil Professor" he is supposed to be morally above and fighting against does.

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Josh. At the beginning Josh admits he isn't fully sure there is a God, then spends all of his time in his debates trying to get everyone to be 100% certain there is a God. For being a "Good Moral Christian" he sure doesn't show it: using screwed up logic, insults, snide remarks and badmouthing Radisson just as much as the "Evil Professor" he is supposed to be morally above and fighting against does.



** Willie Robertson seems to be one too. When he first appears, he asks Amy to understand that he is not propagandizing religion on Duck Dynasty because he and his family openly preach and pray to Jesus, saying that viewers who don't like it can just change the channel. Though at the Newsboys concert he pressures the attendees to text at least 100 people "God's not dead" which is ''outright'' propagandizing.

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** Willie Robertson seems to be one too. When he first appears, he asks Amy to understand that he is not propagandizing religion on Duck Dynasty because he and his family openly preach and pray to Jesus, saying that viewers who don't like it can just change the channel. Though channel, though at the Newsboys concert he pressures the attendees to text at least 100 people "God's not dead" which is ''outright'' propagandizing.
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* BigBadDuumvirate: [[EvilVsEvil Professor Radisson and Josh Wheaton combined]]. They both believe that a god does exist, but selfishly want the philosophy class to take their own side (misotheism or Christianity) of whether the god is all-loving or negligent/cruel and uncaring. The two are quite corrupt, as they are reduced to using fanatic tactics such as attacking each other's credibility and flaws rather than arguing why their own side is so much stronger.

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* BigBadDuumvirate: [[EvilVsEvil Professor Radisson and Josh Wheaton combined]]. They both believe that a god God does exist, but selfishly want the philosophy class to take their own side (misotheism or Christianity) of on whether the god God is all-loving or negligent/cruel and uncaring. The two are quite corrupt, as they are reduced to using fanatic tactics such as attacking each other's credibility and flaws rather than arguing why their own side is so much stronger.



* InformedAbility: Radisson is claimed to be a philosophy professor about to be awarded tenure, essentially the highest position in teaching. From his actions he seems to know absolutely nothing about philosophy. In reference here to the specific issue of the film, for instance, there are many [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existence_of_God#Arguments_against_the_existence_of_God arguments against the existence of God]] he would no doubt be familiar with, likely having argued for them at least in print. The idea that a first-year student would beat a professor in their field of study during a debate is dubious (it would be true if their views were reversed too of course).

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* InformedAbility: Radisson is claimed to be a philosophy professor about to be awarded tenure, essentially the highest position in teaching. From his actions he seems to know absolutely nothing about philosophy. In reference here to the specific issue of the film, for instance, there are many [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existence_of_God#Arguments_against_the_existence_of_God arguments against the existence of God]] he would no doubt be familiar with, likely having argued for them at least in print.print, yet he uses none of them. The idea that a first-year student would beat a professor in their field of study during a debate is dubious (it would be true if their views were reversed too of course).



* VillainHasAPoint: At the end despite Josh getting Radisson to admit he hates God, Radisson tells him that this doesn't prove anything and he hasn't proven God exists. Which is correct. Everything Josh has stated over the course of the lecture has not given any actual proof. One could say he simply sought to put on a good case for God's existence, a.k.a. a God of the Gaps argument [[note]] [[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of_the_gaps Essentially science can't be sure therefore God]] [[/note]], which was arguably his actual intent -- but this is negated as they treat it as ''100% fact'' that God does exist. He also makes a fair point by noting that free will can't explain natural evil (e.g. disasters caused by weather events), a standard counterargument to this, which goes unanswered by Josh.

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* VillainHasAPoint: At the end despite Josh getting Radisson to admit he hates God, Radisson tells him that this doesn't prove anything and he hasn't proven God exists. Which is correct. Everything Josh has stated over the course of the lecture has not given any actual proof. One could say he simply sought to put on a good case for God's existence, a.k.a. a God of the Gaps argument [[note]] argument,[[note]] [[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of_the_gaps Essentially science can't be sure therefore God]] [[/note]], God]][[/note]] which was arguably his actual intent -- but this is negated as they treat it as ''100% fact'' that God does exist. He also makes a fair point by noting that free will can't explain natural evil (e.g. disasters caused by weather events), a standard counterargument to this, which goes unanswered by Josh.

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