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* BoyfriendBlockingDad: Caedron may not be Kallen's biological father, but he's still very concerned about her relationship with Lelouch.



* OverprotectiveDad: Caedron may not be Kallen's biological father, but he's still very concerned about her relationship with Lelouch.
* PapaWolf: Caedron is this to Kallen.

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* OverprotectiveDad: Caedron may not be Kallen's biological father, but he's still very concerned about her relationship with Lelouch.
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* HundredPercentAdorationRating: Lelouch, one of the royal family and later Viceroy of Area 11, is highly loved among his soldiers and the general populace of Japan. Caedron even states that if he were assassinated, Schneizel and Cornelia would burn Japan to ashes just to take out the killer, and the populace would be perfectly okay with that.


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* UniversallyBelovedLeader: Lelouch, one of the royal family and later Viceroy of Area 11, is highly loved among his soldiers and the general populace of Japan. Caedron even states that if he were assassinated, Schneizel and Cornelia would burn Japan to ashes just to take out the killer, and the populace would be perfectly okay with that.

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* MeddlingParents: Lelouch's opinion on how his father is giving him advice on his ''love life'', not helped by the fact that Lelouch's burning desire to commit {{Patricide}} is absolutely no secret to either of them, or anyone in the Royal Court for that matter.
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* GoodPeopleHaveGoodSex: It's abundantly clear that Suzaku and Euphemia engage in very fulfilling and satisfying lovemaking.
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** As usual, Lelouch to Nunnally, to the point where all the war campaigns he's fought over the years are solely to make sure that she gets to live a happy life free from harm. This tends to go UpToEleven when she is around Rai.

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** As usual, Lelouch to Nunnally, to the point where all the war campaigns he's fought over the years are solely to make sure that she gets to live a happy life free from harm. This tends to go UpToEleven up a notch when she is around Rai.



* CorruptBureaucrat: ''[[UpToEleven Clovis's entire administration]]''. While in canon, Clovis isn't what you's call ''competent'', here his administration goes beyond incompetency and right into corruption. After his death, Lelouch does a complete audit of the entire structure and can only be disgusted at how far things have fallen apart. The colony, on top of increased terrorist activity in spite of being a part of Britannia for eight years, was in '''''108 billion pounds sterling in debt'''''. Not even ''Schneizel'', the Prime Minister, was aware of this, and Lelouch notes how this only serves to show the depth of the corruption of Clovis's administration, and by proxy, Britannia's, to able to hide such an outrageous figure from even the Emperor's eyes.

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* CorruptBureaucrat: ''[[UpToEleven Clovis's ''Clovis's entire administration]]''.administration''. While in canon, Clovis isn't what you's call ''competent'', here his administration goes beyond incompetency and right into corruption. After his death, Lelouch does a complete audit of the entire structure and can only be disgusted at how far things have fallen apart. The colony, on top of increased terrorist activity in spite of being a part of Britannia for eight years, was in '''''108 billion pounds sterling in debt'''''. Not even ''Schneizel'', the Prime Minister, was aware of this, and Lelouch notes how this only serves to show the depth of the corruption of Clovis's administration, and by proxy, Britannia's, to able to hide such an outrageous figure from even the Emperor's eyes.



* YouKilledMyFather: Kallen has this when it comes to Britannia killing her brother like in Canon. UpToEleven that they also killed her mother and father this time as well.

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* YouKilledMyFather: Kallen has this when it comes to Britannia killing her brother like in Canon. UpToEleven that they They also killed her mother and father this time as well.
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* AdultFear: In Chapter 18, Nunnally could very easily have been killed by assassins gunning for Lelouch, a fact that haunts her big brother.
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* SpotOfTea: Hugely and hilariously subverted. Lelouch is a coffee addict as chapter 27 shows clearly. See MustHaveCaffeine above.
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* GreyAndGrayMorality: Niether side in the story is entirely good nor entirely evil. Kallen wants to do away with the corruption of Britannia, but wants to see its absolute eradication and commits amoral actions with long-term consequences. Lelouch serves Britannia, but also seeks to rid it of corruption and does so from within without resorting to more destructive means and is frequently shown to be AFatherToHisMen. Both sides also have morals and lines they won't cross, and even Charles and Marianne have redeeming qualities and their endgame is that of a WellIntentionedExtremist, as they wish to rid the world of lies and don't want to force it on anyone. Really, the only shades of black in the story are [[spoiler:V.V.]] and Guinevere.
* GuiltComplex: Caedron has quite the chip on his shoulders in regards to guilt. Though it’s understandable considering he used to be [[spoiler:one of the four horsemen for Emperor Charles that was involved in doing many illicit activities on the Geass Order’s behalf.]]

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* GreyAndGrayMorality: Niether side in the story is entirely good nor entirely evil. Kallen wants to do away with the corruption of Britannia, but wants to see its absolute eradication and commits amoral actions with long-term consequences. Lelouch serves Britannia, but also seeks to rid it of corruption and does so from within without resorting to more destructive means and is frequently shown to be AFatherToHisMen. Both sides also have morals and lines they won't cross, and even Charles and Marianne have redeeming qualities and their endgame is that of a WellIntentionedExtremist, as they wish to rid the world of lies and don't want to force it on anyone. Really, the only true shades of black in the story are [[spoiler:V.V.]] and Guinevere.
* GuiltComplex: Caedron has quite the chip on his shoulders in regards to guilt. Though it’s understandable considering he used to be [[spoiler:one of the four horsemen for Emperor Charles that was involved in doing many illicit activities on the Geass Order’s behalf.]]behalf]].
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** Don't mention Kallen's parents in any capacity. At best, she'll get a passing urge to kill you. At worst, she'll strangle you to death.

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** Don't ''Don't'' mention Kallen's parents in any capacity. At best, she'll get a passing urge While this would be understandable given their deaths, her reaction being to violently kill you. At worst, she'll strangle you whoever brings it up (such as her strangling C.C. to death.death in a fit of rage) most certainly isn't.
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* ProperlyParanoid: Suzaku explains to Euphemia that he doesn't really trust Kallen. Since the readers know that Kallen is actually Zero and planning Britannia's downfall, he does have a point, albeit one of the RightForTheWrongReasons variety.
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* FallenHero: Caedron is a borderline example, in that while he still holds moral standards, he has become more and more ruthless in his actions against Britannia. Though this is understandable due to the fact that he is [[spoiler:dying.]]

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* FallenHero: Caedron is a borderline example, in that while he still holds moral standards, he has become more and more ruthless in his actions against Britannia. Though this is understandable due to the fact that he is [[spoiler:dying.]][[spoiler:dying]].

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* AdaptationalHeroism: To an extent with regards to Charles and Marianne. The [[AssimilationPlot Ragnarok Connection]] is still their endgame, but it's implied to be something that one can chose not to be a part of. They also plan to have Lelouch basically become the ruler of the human race after they take the willing and the corrupt elements away.

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* AdaptationalHeroism: AdaptationalHeroism:
** Jeremiah starts out much more like his post-CharacterDevelopment self. Thanks to Caedron's teachings, he also lacks the puritan ideals he had at the start of the series and shows disgust towards the more racist Britannians like Kewell.
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To an extent with regards to Charles and Marianne. The [[AssimilationPlot Ragnarok Connection]] is still their endgame, but it's implied to be something that one can chose not to be a part of. They also plan to have Lelouch basically become the ruler of the human race after they take the willing and the corrupt elements away.
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** Inverted with Suzaku. In canon, he was pretty much [[spoiler:suicidal due to his killing of his father and all his actions in serving Britannia were a desperate bid to die and atone for his sins]]. Here, while the above mentioned incident still happened, he has far fewer issues about it to the point where Euphemia can just casually bring it up in a private conversation without issue. His better circumstances in the Black Knights and his relationship with Euphemia have certainly helped him with most of his issues.

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** Inverted with Suzaku. In canon, he was pretty much [[spoiler:suicidal due to his killing of his father and all his actions in serving Britannia were a desperate bid to die and atone for his sins]]. Here, while the above mentioned incident still happened, he has far fewer issues about it to the point where Euphemia can just casually bring it up in a private conversation without issue. His better circumstances in the Black Knights and his relationship with Euphemia have certainly helped him with most of his issues.issues, and he overall lacks the DeathSeeker tendencies his anime counterpart had.
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* ArchEnemy: V.V. and Lelouch, although Lelouch is still unaware of it. It seems the only thing preventing V.V. from actually dealing with Lelouch himself is Charles. [[spoiler:Cat's out of the bag. With Kallen's identity as Zero exposed in the aftermath of the Kawaguchi incident, Caedron was forced to cough up information on the Geass Order and the Noppera-bō and now Lelouch has a name for his mother's killer.]]

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* ArchEnemy: V.V. and Lelouch, although Lelouch is still unaware of it. It seems the only thing preventing V.V. from actually dealing with Lelouch himself is Charles. [[spoiler:Cat's out of the bag. With Kallen's identity as Zero exposed in the aftermath of the Kawaguchi incident, Caedron was forced to cough up information on the Geass Order and the Noppera-bō and now Lelouch has a name for his mother's killer.]]killer]].

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* OfficialCouple: As explained in the Foregone Conclusion entry. This is what Kallen and Lelouch eventually become in the story; ''when'' this happens is one of the driving questions of the fic. For a more straight example, see Euphemia and Suzaku.

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* OfficialCouple: As explained in the Foregone Conclusion entry. This is what Kallen and Lelouch eventually become in the story; ''when'' this happens is one of the driving questions of the fic. For
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* PapaWolf: Caedron, to Kallen.

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* PapaWolf: Caedron, Caedron is this to Kallen.
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* BrilliantButLazy: A ZigZagged example with Rai. It is hinted at times that Rai is this when he is at Ashford Academy studying, where he seems to spend more time resting than doing anything productive. Though he subverts this when he is doing his duties for Zero.

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* BrilliantButLazy: A [[ZigZaggedTrope ZigZagged example example]] with Rai. It is hinted at times that Rai is this when he is at Ashford Academy studying, where he seems to spend more time resting than doing anything productive. Though he subverts this when he is doing his duties for Zero.
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** Inverted with Suzaku. In canon, he was pretty much [[spoiler:suicidal due to his killing of his father and all his actions in serving Britannia were pretty much a desperate bid to die and atone for his sins]]. Here, while the above mentioned incident still happened, he has far fewer issues about it to the point where Euphemia can just casually bring it up in a private conversation without issue. His better circumstances in the Black Knights and his relationship with Euphemia have certainly helped him with most of his issues.

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** Inverted with Suzaku. In canon, he was pretty much [[spoiler:suicidal due to his killing of his father and all his actions in serving Britannia were pretty much a desperate bid to die and atone for his sins]]. Here, while the above mentioned incident still happened, he has far fewer issues about it to the point where Euphemia can just casually bring it up in a private conversation without issue. His better circumstances in the Black Knights and his relationship with Euphemia have certainly helped him with most of his issues.
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** Lelouch is also an example. Despite his prolific military accomplishments, the assassination of his mother and the previous attempts on his life led to him treating almost everyone as a potential enemy. He also developed an immense guilt for his actions, having conquered new areas and killed countless people (innocent or otherwise) just to make sure that his sister can live happy.

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** Lelouch is also an example. Despite his prolific military accomplishments, the assassination of his mother and the previous attempts on his life led to him treating almost everyone as a potential enemy. He also developed an immense guilt for his actions, having conquered new areas and killed countless people (innocent or otherwise) just to make sure that his sister can live happy.



* DefectorFromDecadence: Caedron is an example, having once been a Britannian soldier [[spoiler:as well as an assassin for Charles]].

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* DefectorFromDecadence: Caedron is an example, having once been a Britannian soldier [[spoiler:as well as an assassin for Charles]].Charles as one of the Four Horseman]].
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* HundredPercentAdorationRating: Lelouch is highly loved among his soldiers and the general populace of Japan. Caedron even states that if he were assassinated, Schneizel and Cornelia would burn Japan to ashes just to take out the killer, and the populace would be perfectly okay with that.

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* HundredPercentAdorationRating: Lelouch Lelouch, one of the royal family and later Viceroy of Area 11, is highly loved among his soldiers and the general populace of Japan. Caedron even states that if he were assassinated, Schneizel and Cornelia would burn Japan to ashes just to take out the killer, and the populace would be perfectly okay with that.
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** Inverted with Suzaku. In canon, he was pretty much [[spoiler:suicidal due to his killing of his father and all his actions in serving Britannia were pretty much a desperate bid to die and atone for his sins]]. Here, while that same incident still happened, he has far fewer issues about it to the point where Euphemia can just casually bring it up in a private conversation without issue. His better circumstances in the Black Knights and his relationship with Euphemia have certainly helped him with most of his issues.

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** Inverted with Suzaku. In canon, he was pretty much [[spoiler:suicidal due to his killing of his father and all his actions in serving Britannia were pretty much a desperate bid to die and atone for his sins]]. Here, while that same the above mentioned incident still happened, he has far fewer issues about it to the point where Euphemia can just casually bring it up in a private conversation without issue. His better circumstances in the Black Knights and his relationship with Euphemia have certainly helped him with most of his issues.
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* SuddenlySexuality: Chapter 27, C.C becomes this in regards to Kallen, Kallen vice versa as well. Though it’s hinted as well in that C.C and Marianne were close in that way as well.
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** Inverted with Suzaku. In canon, he was pretty much [[spoiler:suicidal due to his killing of his father and all his actions in serving Britannia were pretty much a desperate bid to die and atone for his sins]]. Here, while him killing his father still happened, he has far fewer issues about it to the point where Euphemia can just casually bring it up in a private conversation without issue. His better circumstances in the Black Knights and his relationship with Euphemia have certainly helped him with most of his issues.

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** Inverted with Suzaku. In canon, he was pretty much [[spoiler:suicidal due to his killing of his father and all his actions in serving Britannia were pretty much a desperate bid to die and atone for his sins]]. Here, while him killing his father that same incident still happened, he has far fewer issues about it to the point where Euphemia can just casually bring it up in a private conversation without issue. His better circumstances in the Black Knights and his relationship with Euphemia have certainly helped him with most of his issues.
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* AdaptationalCurves: Lelouch is a lot more muscular than he is in canon, where he has a GeekPhysique to the point where it's a RunningGag how physically inept he is.

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* AdaptationalCurves: Lelouch is a lot more muscular here than he is in canon, where he has a GeekPhysique to the point where it's a RunningGag how physically inept he is.

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