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!!Carmela Soprano (née DeAngelis)
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!!Carmela Soprano (née DeAngelis)[=DeAngelis=])
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!!Carmela Soprano
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!!Carmela Soprano (née DeAngelis)
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** She never admits to [[spoiler:having stolen $40,000.00 from Tony's birdfeeder, no matter how often it comes up]].
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** She never admits to [[spoiler:having stolen $40,000.00 $40,000 from Tony's birdfeeder, no matter how often it comes up]].
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** She has had [[spoiler: three affairs of varying intimacy while she and Tony are married. The only one Tony finds out about is the one she goes out of her way to tell him about in a fit of anger, and it's her most chaste affair]].
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** She has had [[spoiler: three affairs of varying intimacy while she and Tony are married. The only one Tony finds out about (the one with Furio) is the one she goes out of her way to tell him about in a fit of anger, and it's her most chaste affair]].
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** Speaking of AJ, she constantly complains about how lazy and disrespectful the boy is and that he needs to be straightened out. However, it's shown that most of the reason AJ became such a brat is that Carmela coddles him and refuses to give him any real discipline. When it's suggested the boy be sent to military school, Tony is all for it while Carmela is hesitant.
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** Speaking of AJ, she constantly complains about how lazy and disrespectful the boy is and that he needs to be straightened out. However, it's shown that most of the reason AJ became such a brat is that because Carmela coddles him and refuses to give him any real discipline. When it's suggested the boy be sent to military school, Tony is all for it while Carmela is hesitant.
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* HollywoodGenetics: The showrunners clearly expected Iler to look more like Creator/JamesGandolfini as he aged. As an adult, AJ is half the size of his father Tony, and looks nothing like him. Tony finally acknowledges it in the final season, handwaving it by saying that he takes after his wife's family.
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* HollywoodGenetics: The showrunners clearly expected Robert Iler to look more like Creator/JamesGandolfini as he aged. As an adult, AJ is half the size of his father Tony, and looks nothing like him. Tony finally acknowledges it in the final season, handwaving it by saying that he takes after his wife's family.
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!!Corrado "Junior" Soprano
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!!Corrado John "Junior" Soprano Soprano, Jr.
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** Surprisingly, he thinks that Ralphie's joke about Johnny Sack's wife was unfunny, and mentions that back in his day, mobsters would not be making these kinds of comments about each others' wives.
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** Surprisingly, he thinks that Ralphie's Ralph Cifaretto's joke about Johnny Sack's wife was unfunny, and mentions that back in his day, mobsters would not be making these kinds of comments about each others' wives.
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* TapOnTheHead: A news crew's boom mic hitting his head prompts a StaircaseTumble down some steps outside a courthouse following one of his trials. It's later theorized this incident might've triggered his onset of dementia.
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* TapOnTheHead: A news crew's boom mic hitting his head prompts a StaircaseTumble head causes him to [[StaircaseTumble fall down some steps the stairs]] outside a the courthouse following one of his trials. It's later theorized this incident might've triggered his onset of dementia.
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* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: She seems genuinely fond of her grandchildren and uses her influence with Junior to keep Chris from being killed. She also softens up a little towards Janice during their "bonding" at the beginning of Season Two[[note]]until she finds out about the [=DNR=][[/note]]. Unfortunately, this is as far as her redeeming qualities go in the series.
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* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: She seems genuinely fond of her grandchildren and uses her influence with Junior to keep Chris Christopher from being killed. She also softens up a little towards Janice during their "bonding" at the beginning of Season Two[[note]]until she finds out about the [=DNR=][[/note]]. Unfortunately, this is as far as her redeeming qualities go in the series.
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* WifeBasherBasher: [[spoiler: She shoots Richie Aprile after he punches her.]]
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* WifeBasherBasher: [[spoiler: She shoots Richie Aprile to death after he punches her.]]
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** Throughout the episode, Tony regularly slips or struggles to walk while working at the laundromat for Pak. He's ''having trouble getting back on his feet.''
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** Throughout the episode, Tony B. regularly slips or struggles to walk while working at the laundromat for Pak. He's ''having trouble getting back on his feet.''
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* BlackSheep: A west-coast hippy in her backstory, later the not-really-welcome prodigal sister.
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* {{Catchphrase}}: She has several, and all of them reflect malice or self-pity or both on her part. "Oh, poor you!", "I wish the Lord would take me now!", "I don't know what you're talking about!" In general, she seems prone to repeating sentences and phrases verbatim rather than constructing original sentences.
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* {{Catchphrase}}: CharacterCatchphrase: She has several, and all of them reflect malice or self-pity or both on her part. "Oh, poor you!", "I wish the Lord would take me now!", "I don't know what you're talking about!" In general, she seems prone to repeating sentences and phrases verbatim rather than constructing original sentences.
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* HotForPreacher: Close, but no cigar.
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* HotForPreacher: Close, but no cigar. She has some UnresolvedSexualTension with Father Intintola and they almost do something midway through Season 1, but it doesn't happen. He makes sporadic appearances later on during which it is implied he still possesses some feelings for her.
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* MafiaPrincess: Fits this trope to a T.
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* IgnoranceIsBliss: She takes this sort of attitude towards Tony's criminal activities, including the fact he's almost certainly killed people, and numerous mistresses. As long as she doesn't hear about it or see it, she's able to tolerate it and pretend it doesn't happen, because she enjoys the life of luxury he provides her. Tony, for his part, is perfectly happy not mentioning what he does, for plausible deniability, on the chance he's ever indicted and she's required to testify against him.
* MafiaPrincess:Fits this trope She enjoys the big house, expensive clothes and jewelry, no need of a job, and ability to use her husband's connections to get her things that Tony's criminal activities bring in, putting up with a T.lot of abuse simply because she refuses to give it all up.
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* SexForServices: Her affair with AJ's principal is identified as this by the teacher.
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* SexForServices: Her affair with AJ's principal is identified as this by the teacher.teacher, as she always mentions how she wishes there was some way for AJ's grades to improve while they're in bed together.
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* MafiaPrincess: Shares this attribute with her mother.
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* MafiaPrincess: Shares this attribute with Although she starts off disliking her mother.father's lifestyle, she gradually becomes more accepting of it, defends Tony from other people's accusations of him, and eventually considers herself a mob "insider" who is going to become an AmoralAttorney and marry one of Tony's soldier's sons.
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* TheVamp: Mild example towards Bobby.
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* WickedStepmother: After she marries Bobby. Bobby's kids hate her [[HateSink for the obvious reasons]], and even more so after [[spoiler:Bobby is murdered, leaving Janice their sole caretaker]]. Janice is of course so narcissistic she's clueless to how much Bobby's kids despise her and thinks she's doing a great job.
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* DiabolusExMachina: He is days away from co-opening his own-business afer studying and working hard, but one night, he finds easy money in the street dropped by some drug dealers and starts to reconnect with the the nocturnal, criminal life with it. This derails his legit life.
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* DiabolusExMachina: He is days away from co-opening his own-business afer after studying and working hard, but one night, he finds easy money in the street dropped by some drug dealers and starts to reconnect with the the nocturnal, criminal life with it. This derails his legit life.
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* IJustWantToBeNormal: Starts as ReformedButRejected, but it's eventually subverted.
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* IJustWantToBeNormal: Starts as ReformedButRejected, but it's eventually subverted.subverted as he finds himself liking the easy thrills of the criminal life rather than the hard work of going straight.
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* FlatCharacter: The one member of the Soprano family who appears that we learn the least about. About the only thing that's apparent is that she's quiet, has little connection to the rest of the family, and she exists.
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* ItsAllAboutMe: Big time. Nearly every decision she makes in the series is based on whatever will benefit her personally.
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* ItsAllAboutMe: Big time. Nearly every decision she makes in the series is based on whatever will benefit her personally. Her decision to disregard her late mother's wishes for no big funeral or wake rests solely on the fact [[{{Narcissist}} she doesn't want others to perceive her]] as cheap, not because she actually cared about Livia ([[{{Hypocrite}} Tony had to pay for her plane ticket in full and threaten to leave her out of Livia's estate]] to get her to even come to the funeral).
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* ALighterShadeOfBlack: While Hugh is a civilian with his own construction business, he's still not an honest businessman. He frequently used his family connections to the mob to his advantage, such as by getting contracts to projects without having to place high bids or skirting regulations that would cost him more money.
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* ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections: While not part of the mafia himself, Hugh and his construction company were able to reap many benefits from the group thanks to his relationship to his mobster cousins and son-in-law.
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* JerkassHasAPoint: One of the only good things he did as a parent was warn Tony not to be a compulsive gambler; while he still mercilessly profited off those kinds of people, Johnny Boy was well aware of the problems that particular vice could lead to. In later seasons, Tony ends up running into issues from failing to internalize this particular lesson.
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-> '''Played by:''' Nancy Cassaro (season 2) Marianna Leone (Season 4,5, and 6)
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-> '''Played by:''' Nancy Cassaro (season 2) Marianna Leone (Season 4,5, and 6)6), Gabriella Piazza (''Film/TheManySaintsOfNewark'')
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* NeverSpeakIllOfTheDead: It's practically one of her catchphrases to refer to her late husband as a "saint", almost always to emotionally manipulate the person she's talking to, negatively comparing them to her infalliable image of him. Tony notes she never said a single nice thing about his father when Johnny was still alive, and her continuous nagging and fights eventually turned him into a shell of his former self by the time he died.
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* FatalFlaw: She has two:
** Carmela has a nasty case of insecurity. Despite being financially stable while married to Tony, she deep down wants to make something of herself and branch out. This often makes her [[GreenEyedMonster jealous]] of some of the other wives, such as Angie Bonpensiero, who have managed to create a successful life for themselves.
** Denial: Carmela struggles being married to Tony deep down, but she's often running and/or distracting her conscience with bullshit justifications or the material wealth that Tony's lifestyle provides.
** Carmela has a nasty case of insecurity. Despite being financially stable while married to Tony, she deep down wants to make something of herself and branch out. This often makes her [[GreenEyedMonster jealous]] of some of the other wives, such as Angie Bonpensiero, who have managed to create a successful life for themselves.
** Denial: Carmela struggles being married to Tony deep down, but she's often running and/or distracting her conscience with bullshit justifications or the material wealth that Tony's lifestyle provides.
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* {{Catchphrase}}: She has several, and all of them reflect malice or self-pity or both on her part. "Oh, poor you!", "I wish the Lord would take me now!", "I don't know what you're talking about!" In general, she seems prone to repeating sentences and phrases verbatim rather than constructing orginal sentences.
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* {{Catchphrase}}: She has several, and all of them reflect malice or self-pity or both on her part. "Oh, poor you!", "I wish the Lord would take me now!", "I don't know what you're talking about!" In general, she seems prone to repeating sentences and phrases verbatim rather than constructing orginal sentences. original sentences.
* TheChainOfHarm: When discussing why their mother is the way she is, Janice suggests to Tony that it was because Livia's own father wasn't exactly a great parent to her either. Tony thinks that while that might be part of why, it could also be that Livia inherently could not experience joy, so she coped by taking away the joy of others.
* TheChainOfHarm: When discussing why their mother is the way she is, Janice suggests to Tony that it was because Livia's own father wasn't exactly a great parent to her either. Tony thinks that while that might be part of why, it could also be that Livia inherently could not experience joy, so she coped by taking away the joy of others.
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-->'''Livia''' to '''A.J.:''' ''"Who says everything has a purpose? The world's a jungle....In the end, you die in your own arms......It's all a big nothing. What makes you think you're so special?"''
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-->'''Livia''' to '''A.J.:''' ''"Who Who says everything has a purpose? The world's a jungle....In the end, you die in your own arms......It's all a big nothing. What makes you think you're so special?"''special?
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* SiblingTeam: With his younger brother, Johnny Boy.
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* AffablyEvil: Junior is generally a genial and friendly old man with a wicked sense of humor, so long as you don't get in his way.
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* ObnoxiousEntitledHousewife: She has a very smug and condescending attitude when interacting with waitstaff or store employees. She also serves as a dark example of this in that she has no qualms about invoking Tony's reputation or his connections to force people to give her what she wants.
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* SelfInflictedHell: She didn't fill out any of the memory journals Carmela sent, kept very few pictures of her family, and wanted no funeral, because she didn't believe anyone cared enough about her to warrant anything to remember her by. Of course, this is entirely her own fault, because she spent her entire life being vicious, biting, and manipulative to anyone who had the misfortune to cross her path. Sure enough, nobody at her funeral can think of anything nice to say about her and most of them didn't even want to come.
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* SelfInflictedHell: She didn't fill out any of the memory journals Carmela sent, kept very few pictures of her family, and wanted no funeral, because she didn't believe anyone cared enough about her to warrant anything to remember her by. Of course, this is entirely her own fault, because she spent her entire life being vicious, biting, and manipulative to anyone who had the misfortune to cross her path. Sure enough, nobody at her funeral can think of anything nice to say about her and most of them didn't even want to come.come, only doing so because she's Tony's mother.
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* HatedByAll: At her funeral, nobody can think of a single nice thing to say about her (at best, statements were said that ''sounded'' positive, [[TriviallyObvious but were neutral]] [[DamnedByFaintPraise at best]]), until Carmela just comes out and says what everyone was thinking: Livia was a horribly dysfunctional woman who spread misery everywhere she went. Nobody disagrees with this assessment, not even Livia's own children.
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* SiblingTeam: With his younger brother, Johnny Boy.
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* SelfInflictedHell: She didn't fill out any of the memory journals Carmela sent, kept very few pictures of her family, and wanted no funeral, because she didn't believe anyone cared enough about her to warrant anything to remember her by. Of course, this is entirely her own fault, because she spent her entire life being vicious, biting, and manipulative to anyone who had the misfortune to cross her path. Sure enough, nobody at her funeral can think of anything nice to say about her and most of them didn't even want to come.
* SiblingTeam: With his younger brother, Johnny Boy.
* SiblingTeam: With his younger brother, Johnny Boy.
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* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: Shortly after being released from prison, his reckless bid to revive his criminal career drags Tony Soprano's entire organization into a bloody civil war engulfing the whole of Carmine Lupertazzi's massive underworld empire.
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* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: Shortly after being released from prison, his reckless bid to revive his criminal career drags Tony Soprano's entire organization into a bloody civil war engulfing the whole of Carmine Lupertazzi's massive underworld empire. [[spoiler:The fallout from his murder of Billy Leotardo continues all the way to the end of the series and results in several more members of both the [=DiMeo=] and Lupertazzi families either dead or severely harmed, including [[AmbiguousEnding Tony Soprano himself possibly]].]]
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* {{Foil}}: For Tony, despite having many of the same traits.
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* FatalFlaw: Much like her brother, her [[HairTriggerTemper quick temper]] often gets her into more trouble than its worth, causing Tony to come and clean her messes.
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* {{Foil}}: For Tony, despite having many of the same traits.
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* ItsAllAboutMe / {{Narcissist}}: Even when hearing that Jackie Aprile Sr. is dying of cancer, she can't veer the discussion away from her own misery.
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* ItsAllAboutMe / {{Narcissist}}: ItsAllAboutMe: Even when hearing that Jackie Aprile Sr. is dying of cancer, she can't veer the discussion away from her own misery.
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** A psychiatrist makes her realize the [[OedipusComplex Electra complex pattern]] and guides her to break it, so she begins to look for the reverse. She quickly dumps Ralphie with some lame pretext and starts to pursue Bobby Baccalieri, a GentleGiant who is the exact opposite of her previous type.
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** A psychiatrist makes her realize the [[OedipusComplex [[UsefulNotes/OedipusComplex Electra complex pattern]] and guides her to break it, so she begins to look for the reverse. She quickly dumps Ralphie with some lame pretext and starts to pursue Bobby Baccalieri, a GentleGiant who is the exact opposite of her previous type.
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* OedipusComplex: Him effectively taking on his stepmother Giuseppina as his goomah shows signs of this, especially considering that he murdered his father in order to do so.
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** He concluded that Jackie Aprile Jr. was a moron who would never amount to anything when Jackie nearly drowned as a kid.
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** He concluded that Jackie Aprile Jr. was a moron who would never amount to anything when Jackie nearly drowned in a pool of water that was only three inches deep as a kid.
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* ParentalSubstitute: In flashbacks, he is revealed to have been more of a father figure to his nephew than Tony's actual father, "Johnny Boy" Soprano, who largely neglected his family in favor of pursuing his own appetites and ambitions. A scene in ''Film/TheManySaintsOfNewark'' shows him telling Johnny Boy that his duties "raising" Tony somewhat negatively impacted his looking after crime family affairs.
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* ParentalSubstitute: In flashbacks, he is revealed to have been more of a father figure to his nephew than Tony's actual father, "Johnny Boy" Soprano, who largely neglected his family in favor of pursuing his own appetites and ambitions. A scene in ''Film/TheManySaintsOfNewark'' shows him telling Johnny Boy that his duties "raising" Tony somewhat negatively impacted his looking after crime family affairs. Johnny was in prison for five years, so Corrado was around a lot more when Tony was a teenager.
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: While initially enthusiastic about Benito Mussolini when he was younger, he held nothing but contempt for the dictator in his later years.
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* AlasPoorVillain: [[spoiler: His last appearance in Season 6's episode "Made in America". It is clear that his Alzheimer's has progressed.]]
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* AlasPoorVillain: [[spoiler: His last appearance in Season 6's episode "Made in America". It is clear that his Alzheimer's has progressed.progressed to the point he is unaware of his surroundings and remembers nothing of his past other than playing catch with Tony. Seeing what his uncle has become almost reduces Tony to tears.]]
