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** On the other hand, if you do see through him (and point it out), [[ObfuscatingStupidity he suddenly gets a whole lot smarter.]]

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Xanatos Roulette has been renamed to Gambit Roulette. It has never been a byword for \'plan\'.


* The entire game is one for the player character. Basically, the hero is either a single night old or just a few months depending on how you measure time in the game (it's subjective). Yet, simultaneously, they manage to completely upend the Los Angeles political structure and transform the city across whatever lines they choose to do so.
** The first crowning moment of awesome is undoubtedly the PC single handedly assaulting a Sabbat warehouse and proceeding to blow it up. The fact it was obviously a suicide mission [=LaCroix=] intended to use to dispose of the PC only makes their next encounter all the sweeter.
*** On the contrary, it could also be argued that the confrontation between Gimble and the PC is its own moment of awesome. [[spoiler: A human serial killer encounters the ultimate predator.]]
** The player character [[spoiler: slaughtering their way through Chinatown]] when they finally put down [[spoiler: Ming Xiao]] once and for all. The fact that you finally get payback for the way she's treated her this entire game is extremely enjoyable.

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* The entire game is one for the player character. Basically, the hero is either a single night old or just a few months depending on how you measure time in the game (it's subjective). Yet, simultaneously, they manage to completely upend the Los Angeles political structure and transform the city across whatever lines they choose to do so.
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The first crowning moment of awesome is undoubtedly the PC single handedly assaulting a Sabbat warehouse and proceeding to blow it up. The fact it was obviously a suicide mission [=LaCroix=] intended to use to dispose of the PC only makes their next encounter all the sweeter.
*** On the contrary, it could also be argued that the * The confrontation between Gimble and the PC is its own moment of awesome. [[spoiler: A human serial killer encounters the ultimate predator.]]
** * The player character [[spoiler: slaughtering their way through Chinatown]] when they finally put down [[spoiler: Ming Xiao]] once and for all. The fact that you finally get payback for the way she's treated her this entire game is extremely enjoyable.



* The entire game is [[spoiler: one long XanatosRoulette by the last person you'd expect. Jack is behind a multiple stage plot to overthrow the Prince. Setting up a fake sarcophagus with C4, Jack manipulated both the Kueijin and [=LaCroix=] factions into wiping each other out. It's so impressive that ''Cain himself decides to help him out.'']] Pretty amazing for a guy who looks like a drugged out Hell's Angel.

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* The entire game is [[spoiler: one long XanatosRoulette a GambitRoulette by the last person you'd expect. Jack is behind a multiple stage plot to overthrow the Prince. Setting up a fake sarcophagus with C4, Jack manipulated both the Kueijin and [=LaCroix=] factions into wiping each other out. It's so impressive that ''Cain himself decides to help him out.'']] Pretty amazing for a guy who looks like a drugged out Hell's Angel.

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* This is a mostly off-screen example, but Romero's been fighting off zombies for most of his "ghoul-hood", before you ever show up. That's no small feat for someone who isn't as powerful as a vampire.
* Another off-screen example, but if you get the Astrolite by reasoning with the head thug using persuasion, seduction, Domination, or Dementation, rather than killing all the thugs as Mercurio wanted you to, then Mercurio eventually tells you that he killed them all ''himself'' to get the payback he wanted.
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* Believe it or not, Stanley Gimble, whom you speak to in the first bounty hunter sidequest while looking for Carson, has one in his backstory. You learn that rather than just modeling, he also provides prosthetic limbs. No, that's not the awesome part. The awesome part is that he's so dedicated to his work that when he realized that his prosthetic limbs were sub-par, he decided that his work would only improve if he knew what it was like to have to ''use'' one...so he deliberately ''cut off his own arm'' and replaced it with a prosthetic, just to improve his work! [[spoiler: Of course the awesome is mitigated slightly by the fact that he's also a horrible serial killer who lures people to his lair to slice them up for limbs.]]
* You wouldn't expect it from [[spoiler: Knox Harrington]] of all people, but [[spoiler: Knox can pull a fast one on the player if the player doesn't have a high enough Inspection statistic. You know that story Knox gives you about the Asian dude who keeps stalking him and freaking him out, which is what eventually leads you to kill an Asian vampire in the Foxy Boxes store? That's actually a lie. The Asian dude wasn't stalking Knox; Bertram Tung asked Knox to plant you that story to trick you into removing a spy that was getting in Bertram Tung's way. So if you don't figure that out, you've just been tricked ''by an idiot''! Surely a moment of awesome on Knox's part; not so much for the player.]]
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* E gets one if you blackmail Lily. Horrified by the things her frenzy drove her to do, she begs you not to tell E, certain that she'll lose him for good if he finds out. She can't pay you but will do anything if you keep it a secret. When you can't get anything useful from her you have an option to tell E everything. His response is to suggest that you shove it. One of the weakest characters in the game and he gets to look down on you.
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* There's a reason the Malkavian PC calls Lacroix the "Jester-Prince" and Strauss the "Wizard-King". The Camarilla ending shows why.
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* Admit it, the Malkavian PC name dropping the the Yama Kings and the Demon Emperor of the Sixth Age to Ming Xiao as a TakeThat to her "Cainite superstition" mocking is just ''awesome''.
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* The dialogues you get from the Nosferatu NPCs are all made of awesome. Special mention to [[ElvesVersusDwarves the way Gary Golden greets a Toreador PC during their first meeting]]:

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* The dialogues you get from the Nosferatu NPCs [=NPCs=] are all made of awesome. Special mention to [[ElvesVersusDwarves the way Gary Golden greets a Toreador PC during their first meeting]]:
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** The first crowning moment of awesome is undoubtedly the PC single handedly assaulting a Sabbat warehouse and proceeding to blow it up. The fact it was obviously a suicide mission Lacroix intended to use to dispose of the PC only makes their next encounter all the sweeter.

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** The first crowning moment of awesome is undoubtedly the PC single handedly assaulting a Sabbat warehouse and proceeding to blow it up. The fact it was obviously a suicide mission Lacroix [=LaCroix=] intended to use to dispose of the PC only makes their next encounter all the sweeter.



** The player character on his Matrix-esque assault through [[spoiler: LaCroix's forces]] up until the final confrontation when you [[spoiler: kill his Sheriff]] is just one long moment of awesome. It's one of the few games I've seen imitate a player's typical reckless but awesome in-game planning.
* A subtle one occurs when the PC finally confronts La Croix for the last time and he tries to Dominate you into doing his bidding. Up until this point, the [=PCs=] have been helpless but to do as the Prince commands. Having killed their way through half of Los Angeles' supernaturals, the PC just shrugs off La Croix's final command. This leads to La Croix's VillainousBreakdown.
** Various theories abound to why the PC is able to do so. This include the PC's Generation going down, them raising their willpower off-screen, and other more esoteric explanations. My favorite theory is La Croix fails simply because he's ''scared shitless'' and can't concentrate on mind-controlling the PC.
* All of the endings are awesome in their own way [[spoiler: except the La Croix and Kuei-jin endings]]. However, the Independent deserves special mention. Having been used as a pawn by everyone in Kindred society, the player character simply ''flips off' the Anarchs when they try and recruit him.

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** The player character on his Matrix-esque assault through [[spoiler: LaCroix's [=LaCroix=]'s forces]] up until the final confrontation when you [[spoiler: kill his Sheriff]] is just one long moment of awesome. It's one of the few games I've seen imitate a player's typical reckless but awesome in-game planning.
* A subtle one occurs when the PC finally confronts La Croix [=LaCroix=] for the last time and he tries to Dominate you into doing his bidding. Up until this point, the [=PCs=] have been helpless but to do as the Prince commands. Having killed their way through half of Los Angeles' supernaturals, the PC just shrugs off La Croix's [=LaCroix=]'s final command. This leads to La Croix's [=LaCroix=]'s VillainousBreakdown.
** Various theories abound to why the PC is able to do so. This include the PC's Generation going down, them raising their willpower off-screen, and other more esoteric explanations. My favorite theory is La Croix [=LaCroix=] fails simply because he's ''scared shitless'' and can't concentrate on mind-controlling the PC.
* All of the endings are awesome in their own way [[spoiler: except the La Croix [=LaCroix=] and Kuei-jin endings]]. However, the Independent deserves special mention. Having been used as a pawn by everyone in Kindred society, the player character simply ''flips off' the Anarchs when they try and recruit him.



** I can't argue against your own preferences, but I highly doubt Nines cared for you at the beginning. It's mostly about not letting the Camarilla have its way with the situation, even if he believes you shouldn't die, his focus is LaCroix. After the Camarilla recruits you, he tries to pull you into the Anarachs, and I'd wager that letting the Sabbat kill you early on would have given LaCroix some ammunition ("If you are for the people, why aren't you protecting them?"). You are an asset to him. Heck, his final line in the independent ending is "We could use somebody like you!", in an almost desperate tone of voice. And who wouldn't want a Kindred so powerful and talented that they ripped through many Californian Kindred, Sabbat and [[spoiler: the Sheriff, who is implied to be the one reason LaCroix didn't get a beat down sooner]] while being arguably the youngest Kindred in the city.

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** I can't argue against your own preferences, but I highly doubt Nines cared for you at the beginning. It's mostly about not letting the Camarilla have its way with the situation, even if he believes you shouldn't die, his focus is LaCroix. [=LaCroix=]. After the Camarilla recruits you, he tries to pull you into the Anarachs, and I'd wager that letting the Sabbat kill you early on would have given LaCroix [=LaCroix=] some ammunition ("If you are for the people, why aren't you protecting them?"). You are an asset to him. Heck, his final line in the independent ending is "We could use somebody like you!", in an almost desperate tone of voice. And who wouldn't want a Kindred so powerful and talented that they ripped through many Californian Kindred, Sabbat and [[spoiler: the Sheriff, who is implied to be the one reason LaCroix [=LaCroix=] didn't get a beat down sooner]] while being arguably the youngest Kindred in the city.



* The entire game is [[spoiler: one long XanatosRoulette by the last person you'd expect. Jack is behind a multiple stage plot to overthrow the Prince. Setting up a fake sarcophagus with C4, Jack manipulated both the Kueijin and La Croix factions into wiping each other out. It's so impressive that ''Cain himself decides to help him out.'']] Pretty amazing for a guy who looks like a drugged out Hell's Angel.

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* The entire game is [[spoiler: one long XanatosRoulette by the last person you'd expect. Jack is behind a multiple stage plot to overthrow the Prince. Setting up a fake sarcophagus with C4, Jack manipulated both the Kueijin and La Croix [=LaCroix=] factions into wiping each other out. It's so impressive that ''Cain himself decides to help him out.'']] Pretty amazing for a guy who looks like a drugged out Hell's Angel.
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'''Gary Golden:''' En garde, Toreador. You vainglorious, narcissistic poseur! [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech How I loathe that determination of your kind to belie your true nature with Paris fashions and pomp.]] You are a dead thing - a creature of the shadows. '''Start acting like one.''' \\

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'''Gary Golden:''' En garde, Toreador. You vainglorious, narcissistic poseur! [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech How I loathe that determination of your kind to belie your true nature with Paris fashions and pomp.]] You are a dead thing - a creature of the shadows. '''Start acting like one.''' \\
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'''Gary Golden:''' En garde, Toreador. You vainglorious, narcissistic poseur! How I loathe that determination of your kind to belie your true nature with Paris fashions and pomp. You are a dead thing - a creature of the shadows. '''Start acting like one.''' \\

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'''Gary Golden:''' En garde, Toreador. You vainglorious, narcissistic poseur! [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech How I loathe that determination of your kind to belie your true nature with Paris fashions and pomp. pomp.]] You are a dead thing - a creature of the shadows. '''Start acting like one.''' \\
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'''Gary Golden:''' En garde, Toreador. You vainglorious, narcissistic poseur! How I loathe that determination of your kind to belie your true nature with Paris fashions and pomp. You are a dead thing - a creature of the shadows. ''Start acting like one.''' \\

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'''Gary Golden:''' En garde, Toreador. You vainglorious, narcissistic poseur! How I loathe that determination of your kind to belie your true nature with Paris fashions and pomp. You are a dead thing - a creature of the shadows. ''Start '''Start acting like one.''' \\

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* The dialogues you get from the Nosferatu NPCs are all made of awesome. Special mention to [[ElvesVersusDwarves the way Gary Golden greets a Toreador PC during their first meeting]]

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-->'''Gary Golden:''' ''(unseen, while the PC is trying to make him show his face)'' You're used to getting what you want, aren't you, handsome. People just love your charisma, your ''face''. They eat your words up like the rats eat the cheese in the trap. Oh, boss, where do you think you are?\\
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'''Gary Golden:''' ''(after revealing himself)'' Boo!\\
'''Player Character:''' You are the most offensive and obscene thing I've ever seen.\\
'''Gary Golden:''' En garde, Toreador. You vainglorious, narcissistic poseur! How I loathe that determination of your kind to belie your true nature with Paris fashions and pomp. You are a dead thing - a creature of the shadows. ''Start acting like one.''' \\
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* The dialogues you get from the Nosferatu NPCs are all made of awesome. Special mention to [[ElvesVersusDwarves the way Gary Golden greets a Toreador PC during their first meeting]]
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** I can't argue against your own preferences, but I highly doubt Nines cared for you at the begining. It's mostly about not letting the Camarilla ahve it's way with the situation, even if he believes you shouldn't die, his focus is LaCroix. After the Camarilla recruits you, he tries to pull you into the Anarachs, and I'd wager that letting the Sabbat kill you early on would have given LaCroix some ammunition ("If you are for the people, why aren't you protecting them?"). You are an asset to him. Heck, his final line in the independant ending is "We could use somebody like you!", in an almost desperate tone of voice. And who wouldn't want a Kindred so powerful and talented they ripped through many Californian Kindred, Sabbat and [[spoiler: the Sheriff, who is implied to be the one reason LaCroix didn't get a beat down sooner]] while being arguably the youngest Kindred in the city.

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** I can't argue against your own preferences, but I highly doubt Nines cared for you at the begining. beginning. It's mostly about not letting the Camarilla ahve it's have its way with the situation, even if he believes you shouldn't die, his focus is LaCroix. After the Camarilla recruits you, he tries to pull you into the Anarachs, and I'd wager that letting the Sabbat kill you early on would have given LaCroix some ammunition ("If you are for the people, why aren't you protecting them?"). You are an asset to him. Heck, his final line in the independant independent ending is "We could use somebody like you!", in an almost desperate tone of voice. And who wouldn't want a Kindred so powerful and talented that they ripped through many Californian Kindred, Sabbat and [[spoiler: the Sheriff, who is implied to be the one reason LaCroix didn't get a beat down sooner]] while being arguably the youngest Kindred in the city.
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Its main page says \'Roulette\' and this context only proves that.


* The entire game is [[spoiler: one long XanatosGambit by the last person you'd expect. Jack is behind a multiple stage plot to overthrow the Prince. Setting up a fake sarcophagus with C4, Jack manipulated both the Kueijin and La Croix factions into wiping each other out. It's so impressive that ''Cain himself decides to help him out.'']] Pretty amazing for a guy who looks like a drugged out Hell's Angel.

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* The entire game is [[spoiler: one long XanatosGambit XanatosRoulette by the last person you'd expect. Jack is behind a multiple stage plot to overthrow the Prince. Setting up a fake sarcophagus with C4, Jack manipulated both the Kueijin and La Croix factions into wiping each other out. It's so impressive that ''Cain himself decides to help him out.'']] Pretty amazing for a guy who looks like a drugged out Hell's Angel.
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* The development team gets a big crowning moment of awesome for creating the game. Not just because it's one of the best role-playing games of all time but the fact that it also manages to make atmospheric the 2nd Edition world of VampireTheMasquerade. By that point, the sheer amount of silliness had seriously watered down the horror vibe of the game. However, everything was included in the game and didn't remotely detract from the horror.

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* The development team gets a big crowning moment of awesome for creating the game. Not just because it's one of the best role-playing games of all time but the fact that it also manages to make atmospheric the 2nd Edition world of VampireTheMasquerade.''TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade''. By that point, the sheer amount of silliness had seriously watered down the horror vibe of the game. However, everything was included in the game and didn't remotely detract from the horror.
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** After the company got shut down, a number of developers stayed on to make the official patch. Just because they didn't want the game to have what little glitches it had on launch. Talk about DoingItForTheArt.

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** After the company got shut down, a number of developers stayed on to make the official patch. Just because they didn't want the game to have what little all the many glitches it had on launch. Talk about DoingItForTheArt.
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** I can't argue against your own preferences, but I highly doubt Nines cared for you at the begining. It's mostly about not letting the Camarilla ahve it's way with the situation, even if he believes you shouldn't die, his focus is LaCroix. After the Camarilla recruits you, he tries to pull you into the Anarachs, and I'd wager that letting the Sabbat kill you early on would have given LaCroix some ammunition ("If you are for the people, why aren't you protecting them?"). You are an asset to him. Heck, his final line in the independant ending is "We could use somebody like you!", in an almost desperate tone of voice. And who wouldn't want a Kindred so powerful and talented they ripped through many Californian Kindred, Sabbat and [[spoiler: the Sheriff, who is implied to be the one reason LaCroix didn't get a beat down sooner]] while being arguably the youngest Kindred in the city.
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** The flipping off part is a bit too much personally. Sure, I can understand the PC is tired of being jerked around but the Anarchs, particularly Nines, are the reason he/she wasn't killed along his/her sire in the first place. A slightly respecte And alienating yourself with the one group that doesn't want kill you after all that isn't very smart either.

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** The flipping off part is a bit too much personally. Sure, I can understand the PC is tired of being jerked around but the Anarchs, particularly Nines, are the reason he/she wasn't killed along his/her sire in the first place. A slightly respecte Simply saying nothing and just walking away would have been just as cool. And alienating yourself with the one group that doesn't want kill you after all that isn't very smart either.
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** The flipping off part is a bit too much personally. Sure, I can understand the PC is tired of being jerked around but the Anarchs, particularly Nines, are the reason he/she wasn't killed along his/her sire in the first place. A slightly respecte And alienating yourself with the one group that doesn't want kill you after all that isn't very smart either.
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** For example ''Kindred of the East'' in all their other dimensional glory, a member of the Nagaraja sect from [[CanonDiscontinuity ''Dirty Secrets of the Black Hand'']], and even a ****ing ''wereshark''!

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** For example ''Kindred of the East'' in all their other dimensional glory, a member of the Nagaraja sect from [[CanonDiscontinuity ''Dirty ''[[CanonDiscontinuity Dirty Secrets of the Black Hand'']], Hand]]'', and even a ****ing ''wereshark''!
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** If you're a Malkavian character, there's a good chance that upon realising this [[spoiler: your character ''flips out'' and is reduced to screams and whimpers of "Oh god oh god oh god oh ''god!''". Caine lets you get it out of your system before continuing]].
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That book really \'\'was\'\' awful. Props to Troika for managing to make Pisha awesome.


** For example ''Kindred of the East'' in all their other dimensional glory, a member of the Nagaraja sect from ''Dirty Secrets of the Black Hand'', and even a ****ing ''wereshark''!

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** For example ''Kindred of the East'' in all their other dimensional glory, a member of the Nagaraja sect from [[CanonDiscontinuity ''Dirty Secrets of the Black Hand'', Hand'']], and even a ****ing ''wereshark''!
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** Let's be real honest here. That's the REAL ending of this game.

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** For example ''Kindred of the East'' in all their other dimensional glory, a member of the Nagaraja sect from ''Dirty Secrets of the Black Hand'', and even a ****ing ''wereshark''!



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** For example ''Kindred of the East'' in all their other dimensional glory, a member of the Nagaraja sect from ''Dirty Secrets of the Black Hand'', and even a ****ing ''wereshark''!
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**After the company got shut down, a number of developers stayed on to make the official patch. Just because they didn't want the game to have what little glitches it had on launch. Talk about DoingItForTheArt.
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* A subtle one occurs when the PC finally confronts La Croix for the last time and he tries to Dominate you into doing his bidding. Up until this point, the PCs have been helpless but to do as the Prince commands. Having killed their way through half of Los Angeles' supernaturals, the PC just shrugs off La Croix's final command. This leads to La Croix's VillainousBreakdown.

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* A subtle one occurs when the PC finally confronts La Croix for the last time and he tries to Dominate you into doing his bidding. Up until this point, the PCs [=PCs=] have been helpless but to do as the Prince commands. Having killed their way through half of Los Angeles' supernaturals, the PC just shrugs off La Croix's final command. This leads to La Croix's VillainousBreakdown.

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