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* Page quotes should not have any trope {{pothole}}s in them, although it is okay to link to a work or genre which is referenced ''directly''. Quotes do not have potholes in their original medium, and extraneous {{Blue Link}}s above the trope description just distract the reader. If potholes are not necessary to understand the quote, then they are redundant. If potholes give context that is needed to understand the quote, then the quote does not truly illustrate the trope.
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* Page quotes should not have any trope {{pothole}}s in them, although it is okay to link to a work or genre which is referenced ''directly''. Quotes do not have potholes in their original medium, and extraneous {{Blue Link}}s [[Administrivia/TVTropesGlossary Blue Links]] above the trope description just distract the reader. If potholes are not necessary to understand the quote, then they are redundant. If potholes give context that is needed to understand the quote, then the quote does not truly illustrate the trope.
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linking to the thread itself, and not to where tropers can add posts to it.
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* There is [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/addpost.php?discussion=1327331003042025100 this]] thread dedicated to page quotes. Don't be afraid of asking for help there.
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* There is [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/addpost.php?discussion=1327331003042025100 this]] thread org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1327331003042025100&page= this thread]] dedicated to page quotes. Don't be afraid of asking for help there.
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* Just as multiple page images look ridiculous, multiple page quotes only weaken the intro. You can add a quote page by changing "Main" to "Quotes" in the URL.
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* Just as multiple page images look ridiculous, multiple page quotes only weaken the intro. You can add a quote page by changing "Main" the namespace to "Quotes" in the URL.
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Increasing accessibility
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* There is [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1327331003042025100 this]] thread dedicated to page quotes. Don't be afraid of asking for help there.
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* There is [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.org/pmwiki/addpost.php?discussion=1327331003042025100 this]] thread dedicated to page quotes. Don't be afraid of asking for help there.
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Wick cleanup, Edit War moved to Administrivia
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* If you have a new page image or quote that's objectively better than the current one by these guidelines, move the old one to ImageLinksWiki or QuotesWiki instead of just removing it. This will allow fans of the old one to still have easy access to it, and will go a long way toward preventing an EditWar.
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* If you have a new page image or quote that's objectively better than the current one by these guidelines, move the old one to ImageLinksWiki or QuotesWiki instead of just removing it. This will allow fans of the old one to still have easy access to it, and will go a long way toward preventing an EditWar.Administrivia/EditWar.
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Per Ask The Tropers discussion, potholes to obliquely referenced works are not kosher in page quotes
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* Page quotes should not have any trope {{pothole}}s in them, although it is okay to link to a work or genre which is referenced obliquely. Quotes do not have potholes in their original medium, and extraneous {{Blue Link}}s above the trope description just distract the reader. If potholes are not necessary to understand the quote, then they are redundant. If potholes give context that is needed to understand the quote, then the quote does not truly illustrate the trope.
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* Page quotes should not have any trope {{pothole}}s in them, although it is okay to link to a work or genre which is referenced obliquely.''directly''. Quotes do not have potholes in their original medium, and extraneous {{Blue Link}}s above the trope description just distract the reader. If potholes are not necessary to understand the quote, then they are redundant. If potholes give context that is needed to understand the quote, then the quote does not truly illustrate the trope.
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* Page quotes should not have any trope {{pothole}}s in them, although it is okay to link to a work or genre which is referenced obliquely. Quotes do not have potholes in their original medium, and extraneous BlueLinks above the trope description just distract the reader. If potholes are not necessary to understand the quote, then they are redundant. If potholes give context that is needed to understand the quote, then the quote does not truly illustrate the trope.
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* Page quotes should not have any trope {{pothole}}s in them, although it is okay to link to a work or genre which is referenced obliquely. Quotes do not have potholes in their original medium, and extraneous BlueLinks {{Blue Link}}s above the trope description just distract the reader. If potholes are not necessary to understand the quote, then they are redundant. If potholes give context that is needed to understand the quote, then the quote does not truly illustrate the trope.
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* Page quotes should not have any trope potholes in them, although it is okay to pothole to a work or genre which is referenced obliquely. Quotes do not have potholes in their original medium, and extraneous bluelinks above the trope description just distract the reader. If potholes are not necessary to understand the quote, then they are redundant. If potholes give context that is needed to understand the quote, then the quote does not truly illustrate the trope.
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* Page quotes should not have any trope potholes {{pothole}}s in them, although it is okay to pothole link to a work or genre which is referenced obliquely. Quotes do not have potholes in their original medium, and extraneous bluelinks BlueLinks above the trope description just distract the reader. If potholes are not necessary to understand the quote, then they are redundant. If potholes give context that is needed to understand the quote, then the quote does not truly illustrate the trope.
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Amending slightly further to allow for genres
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* Page quotes should not have any trope potholes in them, although it is okay to pothole to a work which is referenced obliquely. Quotes do not have potholes in their original medium, and extraneous bluelinks above the trope description just distract the reader. If potholes are not necessary to understand the quote, then they are redundant. If potholes give context that is needed to understand the quote, then the quote does not truly illustrate the trope.
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* Page quotes should not have any trope potholes in them, although it is okay to pothole to a work or genre which is referenced obliquely. Quotes do not have potholes in their original medium, and extraneous bluelinks above the trope description just distract the reader. If potholes are not necessary to understand the quote, then they are redundant. If potholes give context that is needed to understand the quote, then the quote does not truly illustrate the trope.
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Amending quote pothole policy to allow for work links
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* Page quotes should not have any {{pothole}}s whatsoever. Quotes do not have potholes in their original medium, and bluelinks above the trope description just distract the reader. If potholes are not necessary to understand the quote, then they are redundant. If potholes give context that is neeeded to understand the quote, then the quote does not truly illustrate the trope.
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* Page quotes should not have any {{pothole}}s whatsoever. trope potholes in them, although it is okay to pothole to a work which is referenced obliquely. Quotes do not have potholes in their original medium, and extraneous bluelinks above the trope description just distract the reader. If potholes are not necessary to understand the quote, then they are redundant. If potholes give context that is neeeded needed to understand the quote, then the quote does not truly illustrate the trope.
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Fleshed out the \"no potholes in page quotes\" rule with reasons as I understand them. Hope I hit the nail.
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* Page quotes should not have any {{pothole}}s whatsoever. (For the reasons behind this, see [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1327331003042025100&page=88#2180 these posts]].)
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* Page quotes should not have any {{pothole}}s whatsoever. (For Quotes do not have potholes in their original medium, and bluelinks above the reasons behind this, see [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1327331003042025100&page=88#2180 these posts]].)trope description just distract the reader. If potholes are not necessary to understand the quote, then they are redundant. If potholes give context that is neeeded to understand the quote, then the quote does not truly illustrate the trope.
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Minor edit.
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* If you have a new page image or quote that's objectively better than the current one by these guidelines, move the old one to ImageLinksWiki or QuotesWiki instead of just removing it. This will allow fans of the old one to still have easy access to it, and will go a long way to preventing an EditWar.
* There is [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1327331003042025100 this]] thread dedicated to page quotes. Don't be afraid from asking help there.
* There is [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1327331003042025100 this]] thread dedicated to page quotes. Don't be afraid from asking help there.
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* If you have a new page image or quote that's objectively better than the current one by these guidelines, move the old one to ImageLinksWiki or QuotesWiki instead of just removing it. This will allow fans of the old one to still have easy access to it, and will go a long way to toward preventing an EditWar.
* There is [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1327331003042025100 this]] thread dedicated to page quotes. Don't be afraidfrom of asking for help there.
* There is [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1327331003042025100 this]] thread dedicated to page quotes. Don't be afraid
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This page does not yet give the reasons behind removing the links in page quotes. Until someone can update this page, I insert a link to the forum posts.
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* Page quotes should not have any {{pothole}}s whatsoever. (For the reasons behind this, see [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1327331003042025100&page=88#2180 these posts]].)
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I saw it get mentioned repeatedly in the Page Quote topic that Fast Eddie requested no page quotes should have potholes. So, well, putting it down here, so it\'s in SOME sort of rule list on the site, instead of just being some unmentioned rule.
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'''Pick something that ''demonstrates'' the trope ''in the image or quote''.''' This is why we don't allow JustAFaceAndACaption.
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'''Pick something that ''demonstrates'' the trope ''in the image or quote''.''' This is why we don't allow JustAFaceAndACaption.
Administrivia/JustAFaceAndACaption.
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The Golden Rule for picking page images and quotes:
'''Pick something that ''demonstrates'' the trope ''in the image or quote''.''' This is why we don't allow JustAFaceAndACaption.
* Picking an image that ''shows'' something that demonstrates the trope only ''[[ItMakesSenseInContext in context]]'' doesn't help. Be especially wary of FanMyopia. The relevance should be obvious to anyone who has never read or watched said work.
* Read Administrivia/HowToPickAGoodImage. Now. We'll wait.
* Keep it [[NotSafeForWork Safe For Work]].
* Just as multiple page images look ridiculous, multiple page quotes only weaken the intro. You can add a quote page by changing "Main" to "Quotes" in the URL.
* If you have a new page image or quote that's objectively better than the current one by these guidelines, move the old one to ImageLinksWiki or QuotesWiki instead of just removing it. This will allow fans of the old one to still have easy access to it, and will go a long way to preventing an EditWar.
* There is [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1327331003042025100 this]] thread dedicated to page quotes. Don't be afraid from asking help there.
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'''Pick something that ''demonstrates'' the trope ''in the image or quote''.''' This is why we don't allow JustAFaceAndACaption.
* Picking an image that ''shows'' something that demonstrates the trope only ''[[ItMakesSenseInContext in context]]'' doesn't help. Be especially wary of FanMyopia. The relevance should be obvious to anyone who has never read or watched said work.
* Read Administrivia/HowToPickAGoodImage. Now. We'll wait.
* Keep it [[NotSafeForWork Safe For Work]].
* Just as multiple page images look ridiculous, multiple page quotes only weaken the intro. You can add a quote page by changing "Main" to "Quotes" in the URL.
* If you have a new page image or quote that's objectively better than the current one by these guidelines, move the old one to ImageLinksWiki or QuotesWiki instead of just removing it. This will allow fans of the old one to still have easy access to it, and will go a long way to preventing an EditWar.
* There is [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1327331003042025100 this]] thread dedicated to page quotes. Don't be afraid from asking help there.
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