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05:10:03 PM Sep 24th 2015
edited by RoseAndHeather
I also ought to point out that, after the website revamp and Jon's stepping down (not to mention the end of the Report, when the url went defunct), all the clip links are utterly borked on both the TDS and TCR pages. Unfortunately, I can't do a damn thing about it because I'm geo-locked (thanks, UK), and it'll probably take a small army of people to fix everything, but I thought I'd raise the issue just in case.

ETA: Right, I have discovered the magic that is [unnamed browser plugin], so I'm gonna get to work on replacing those links — but I could really, really use some help! :)
01:13:00 PM Sep 25th 2015
Main page and Awesome page are done re: link replacement. If anyone wants to turn their hand to any of the other pages while I crash and reboot my brain (and my eyes), I would be forever grateful.

For the ones whose urls start with "", just change that to "", change "videos" to "video-clips", and add "the-late-show-with-jon-stewart-" to the last section of URL. For the ones on, you'll have to google the segment name, I'm afraid.

I'll get back to work tomorrow - hopefully I can knock out the rest of the subpages (except Funny, which I'll leave until I've dealt with all the other TDS and TCR pages) by the end of the day.
09:57:46 AM Sep 24th 2015
edited by RoseAndHeather
Are we going to soft-split (or hard-split, for that matter) the Trevor Noah incarnation? It makes sense not to split off the Kilborn years because a) he only hosted for a couple of years and b) there are practically no examples relating to him anyway (and as far as I can tell, scant footage even exists from those years), but for seventeen years, Jon Stewart was The Daily Show. He made it one of the most well-respected news sources on television, and it only seems fair to sort the examples by era, so those looking for Stewart-specific tropes can find them, and those looking for Noah-specific examples can find them. Especially after hearing that Noah intends to do his show and not Jon's show (as well he should, but I think it's quite clear that Noah's Daily Show is not going to be interchangeable with Jon's Daily Show). Sort of like how The Late Show With David Letterman is very much not the same animal as The Late Show With Stephen Colbert. Maybe split it off to its own page as The Daily Show With Trevor Noah?

(Disclaimer: I don't hate Trevor Noah. Far from it; I think he's a very likable, funny young man and if Jon Stewart wants me to give the guy a chance, I'm damn well gonna. But I do have more than a bit of My Real Daddy going on, and I'm definitely not alone. Nobody can really fill Jon Stewart's shoes, no matter how well they carry on his legacy.)
12:48:40 PM Sep 24th 2015
I like Trevor Noah a lot, and I definitely support a split.

The page is going to need a split eventually, and it seems like a very logical one. I'd say leave general/Kilborn examples here, and make separate pages for The Daily Show with Trevor Noah and The Daily Show with Jon Stewart.
03:45:47 PM Sep 24th 2015
Yes plan good. Thumbs up from me on that.
07:09:00 AM Sep 29th 2015
edited by Larkmarn
Made a sandbox for The Daily Show with Trevor Noah, if anyone wants to help out.

Should we make a Sandbox.The Daily Show With Jon Stewart and Sandbox.The Daily Show and make a switch when we have enough tropes for Trevor Noah?
08:18:56 AM Sep 29th 2015
I can get behind that plan. Maybe also add a note to the main page to put all Trevor Noah examples on the Sandbox page instead? It's unorthodox, I know, but if they're only gonna be on the main page for a week, it seems a bit of a waste to duplicate.

Also I have been slacking — I've done a few of the links on the Ho Yay page but that's about it, I think my eyes are still uncrossing from the Main and Awesome pages. If there's a way to spread the word that this is a thing that's happening, I think my poor eyes (and brain) would really appreciate the help.
05:23:49 AM Sep 30th 2015
We've got enough tropes on each of the sandboxes to technically move them now. Should we make the split?
07:30:41 AM Sep 30th 2015
Split 'em.

Going to gradually make my way through the subpages, but the important stuff is done.
08:10:23 AM Sep 30th 2015
Bless. I'll help with what I can, promise.
08:48:33 PM Jan 21st 2015
edited by Premonition45
Now that The Nightly Show is underway, should we link its Funny Moments page to the Daily Show/Colbert Report's funny moments tab?
01:19:13 AM Jan 22nd 2015
Link it from there? Yes.
06:15:30 PM Jan 23rd 2015
The page has been created. Now how do we link them?
02:25:07 AM Jan 24th 2015
A link in the description.
06:37:34 PM Jan 24th 2015
There's folder and link in the Daily Show/Colbert Report/Nightly Show funny tab. Now what?
03:16:07 PM Jan 28th 2015
Somebody has actually created a The Nightly Show funny moments page. Are we still linking?
08:54:14 AM Aug 15th 2013
Shouldn't Jon Stewart have his own Creator page?
09:47:23 AM Aug 10th 2015
Jon Stewart has stepped down from hosting the show, it's high time he got his own creator page.
11:13:24 PM Sep 29th 2015
Seriously, Jon needs his own creator page now.
03:13:02 PM Oct 8th 2015
edited by RoseAndHeather
Why don't you go ahead and start drafting one, then? Jon Stewart would be a lovely place to play with what you want the final product to look like.

ETA: He has one now. Check out Jon Stewart and take a look, okay? :)
09:07:03 PM Aug 1st 2013
Before you dismiss it as silliness, they get some astonishingly important guests
08:41:38 AM Aug 2nd 2013
Well, yes. We all realized that about six or seven years ago.
05:38:19 PM Jun 7th 2013
Clarification question - we aren't having a separate section/page for "The Daily Show with John Oliver", right?
10:29:59 PM Aug 9th 2013
Probably not since he's only doing it temporarily
05:38:06 PM Nov 17th 2011
Would it be too weird to request a character page for this show? I notice that Whose Line has one, and there have been so many correspondents on TDS that a character sheet might be helpful to the uninitiated.
09:37:41 PM Nov 5th 2010
edited by helterskelter
Well...I'm going to remove this bit: "Anyone still claiming he's just a glorified comedian can now officially shut their traps."

I love The Daily Show—Jon Stewart, if I had to pick a political hero (or, at least, a hero relating to politics), would be the guy.

But that line just sounds superior and condescending. If it were TIME magazine, I'd understand, but Ask Really? It's not that I don't agree with it, I just think it's a elitist thing to say. Removed on basis of Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment.
10:05:25 PM Nov 5th 2010
If you're going to remove that, then why ignore the giant love letter preceding it? Shouldn't that be toned down too?

I'm actually in agreement with you in that it seems "superior and condescending," but tonally it was no different from the paragraph above it. It just seems odd to me that you would let that slide and not this.

Not that I want you to add it back in or anything (even though I'm the one who added it, I concede that it was a little over-the-top). But we need to keep the page consistent, don't you think?
06:22:20 PM Nov 6th 2010
edited by helterskelter
Sorry—I removed that because it was a recent addition and not a result of the efforts of thousands of tropers who have seen this page and made it that way. It was also the questionable validity of saying "this generally popular internet website with a particular demographic loves this guy their demographic is targeted towards". Or that Ask is somehow influential or important to sufficiently discredit far more influential or important media (even if I dislike and do not agree with them) saying otherwise.

Honestly, the Internet loves Jon Stewart. Us tropers do, as a whole, too. As pointed out above, Wiki Magic defines what is good and bad. If universally we seem to love him, the page will reflect that. Same way we hate North.

It's not that I wouldn't argue for a bit more of a neutral-but-still-positive article, I just don't think I'm up to that endeavor.
06:34:30 PM Nov 6th 2010
The Ask Men list is decided by millions of people voting, not an arbitrary committee. That should make it somewhat influential, especially given the fact that the opinions expressed by major media do not often reflect the views of the people (as Stewart himself often points out).
06:53:00 PM Nov 6th 2010
edited by helterskelter
That's not my point—my point is that it's targeted towards a specific demographic (young, unmarried college-aged men) and The Daily Show is extremely popular in that demographic. There were also about half a million votes, according to the site.
09:53:48 PM Sep 20th 2010
Can we edit this a bit so that it doesn't sound like something written by a kiss-ass?
05:45:52 PM Sep 21st 2010
Most articles sound like that. Anyway, what would you change, anonymous angry guy?
06:42:15 PM Oct 5th 2010
Wiki magic: if it actually did suck, troper consensus would mark it as such. That they haven't is probably indicative of something.
02:01:55 AM Aug 5th 2011
Note to TC: It annoys this troper, too, but that's how things tend to turn out here on Tropes. Most members are liberal and ergo they'll write pages that amount to love-letters for Liberal pundits, including assholes like Olbermann, while writing hateful diatribes regarding conservative pundits.

There's no point in trying to wage an Edit War over liberal pundits here on tropes.

This conservative troper just avoids the liberal pundits and just tries to make sure that the partisan BS doesn't leak into the conservative pundits' pages.
07:54:16 AM Aug 25th 2011
edited by Malchus
Yeah, sure, rant about partisan BS while you're basically calling most tropers as liberal suck-ups. Because liberal pages have never been vandalized, right? And conservative pages have never contained Take Thats at other political stances at all, right? Nice.

Funny thing about being on a high horse—you leave an obvious trail of shit.
10:56:06 AM Dec 6th 2011
edited by marcellX
Most members have never even visit a political page on TV tropes. Believe it or not most are here for the "tropes" and how they fall into "TV" (hence TV tropes) or anything related to that (movies, comics etc.)
12:39:38 PM Sep 15th 2010
Shout out: In the 9/14 episode, Jon is making a ramen noodle, noose. Do you think he's senn ranma 1/2
01:00:11 PM Sep 15th 2010
10:44:14 PM Oct 4th 2010
It's doubtful that Jon has, but there is a sizable staff of writers. Good odds that at least one is an anime geek.
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