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SamMax
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07:00:53 PM Feb 13th 2013
Why does this trope have a Trivia tab?
Goldstone
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09:23:17 AM Feb 4th 2012
edited by Goldstone
Does voice acting in non live-action stuff like Radio, Animation and Web Animation, really needs to count as an example of the trope? The trope looks like it's for visual medium only and only applies to real life people and live-action characters, not voices. I don't think Voice examples should be included. One of the reasons which include people not caring who's doing the voice, is that while animated characters like Mickey Mouse can be around forever, his voice actors cannot and need to be replaced. Not to mention that child actors who voice child characters that never age, will eventually have their voice matured and will no longer be appropriate for voicing their child characters (Think who voiced Cub Simba in TLK 1 and who voiced the exact same character in TLK 3 (that came 10 years later).)

Voice examples seem a bit of a stretch at this point. Voice examples don't need a trope of their own. They can just be written as sentences in the Trivia page, like how people write their questions in the Headscratchers page.

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It's been over 50 years, what were they suppose to do? Cast the same voice actors, some of who may or may not be alive at that point and their voices sound nothing like they did 50 years ago, to voice animated characters that are still the same age? People don't thinks so.
Terrane
06:19:39 PM Feb 6th 2012
edited by Terrane
I can understand how "legacy" voices changing after several decades might not count, but there are plenty of legitimate examples of voice actors suddenly and noticebly changing in the middle of a series that fit perfectly within this trope's description. Examples such as Meg's voice actress from Family Guy changing after the first season fit as well as any live action entry. I highly disagree with the notion that "people don't care who does the voice". People notice when a character's voice changes. Even if you view this trope as being a purely visual thing (since it's more obvious when a character physically looks different), voice actors changing should still be a trope. You shouldn't have blithely deleted so many examples.
Goldstone
09:17:31 AM Feb 7th 2012
In dubbings, the voices of the original language version gets complete erased, and most vocie replacements aren't noticable at all, you have to check who vocied who in order to know the change in voice actors.

And how exactly do puppeteers fit in all of this? They're off-screen people who the audience doesn't care about. And how exactly is a change in puppeteers noticable, especially when the new and the old are equal. And if the original whatever is dead, than the trope doesn't qualify for his or her character.
OldManHoOh
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10:57:30 AM Jan 12th 2012
  • Ned Banks on Ghost Whisperer. Introduced in Season 2 with actor Tyler Patrick Jones in the role, who was replaced by Cristoph Sanders in Season 3. Noteworthy because Sanders looks nothing like Jones, being taller, blond (Jones has dark hair), and noticeably older. Sanders is in fact 6 years older than Jones, which is almost a Real Life Harsher in Hindsight since the entire show later jumped five years into the future, although none of the other adult characters are shown to have aged at all, nor is there ever any evidence of them living in the not so distant future, except for son Aiden, who is now five years old after having been born at the end of the previous season.

Someone clarify, is the sinkhole to Flash Forward accurate? From the way it's worded it sounds closer to a Time Skip.
Mswordx24
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09:10:44 PM Jul 31st 2011
Shouldn't this trope be in Trivia?
NaphthaTurisas
01:46:12 AM Oct 6th 2011
I'd think so too, especially since The Other Marty and Talking to Himself have been relegated to Trivia already. Is there some conveyed meaning I'm missing with this one?
hippies4ever
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08:37:39 PM Jun 7th 2011
is it okay to add something about Charlie Sheen yet?
86.154.143.229
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03:21:26 AM Dec 17th 2010
edited by 86.154.143.229
One I remember well from TV series "Neighbours" was Cheryl Stark, who not only switched actress overnight one day but also gained a new and less pleasant personality along with her different hair colour, a sub-trope that could perhaps be called a Redheaded Cheryl. She magically switched back to her old actress one day (once again she just went to bed with red hair and got up with white - or maybe she dyed it at that point, I can't remember), only to be almost immediately hit by a vehicle and die under the incompetent hands of Dr Karl Kennedy.

Also in soaps, "Coronation Street" has had at least 3 versions of Nick(y) Tilsley/Platt from standard kid to pin-up pop hunk to the annoying arrogant bony-faced guy he is now.

"Eastenders" has had at least a few Janine Butchers as well as a Redheaded Cheryl in the form of Sam(antha) Mitchell who became a bitch with a new hairstyle for a while before eventually returning as the previous actress and at least partially having her previous personality restored.
193.191.216.25
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01:55:54 AM Dec 17th 2010
No mention of the infamous 'Days of Our Lives' change where the new 'Roman Brady' was quite a lot bigger than the old one. (Due to fan demand, the old Roman was brought back and the new one turned out to be a Di Mera spy, but that wasn't the plan.)

And The Bold and the Beautiful which could just well be called the Trope Codifier. Aside from Taylor, Ridge, Brooke, Stephanie and Eric every character has been changed. Multiple times. How many Bridgets can you think of? Six, seven?
memetics
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04:33:51 AM Sep 29th 2010
edited by memetics
In the movie "The Whoopee Boys", Barney (Paul Rodriguez) and Whitey (Taylor Negron) are discussing The Two Darrins, and the scene concludes with Barney saying to Whitey something like: "You just don't change Dicks like that mid-stream!" — I thought that was a funny and appropriate reference, and noteworthy here, but I'm not sure if it belongs in the Film folder on this page, or somewhere else. (Since I probably won't think to come back here anytime soon, please feel free to place the info somewhere appropriate, if you deem it noteworthy - but it would help to quote the exact/accurate exchange.)
DaibhidC
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03:56:01 PM Sep 15th 2010
edited by DaibhidC
Pulled these:

  • The Price Is Right, having been in production consistently since 1972, has outlived two announcers (Johnny Olson and Rod Roddy); following both men's deaths, a rotation of substitutes announced the show until a successor was picked among the substitutes. The third non-substitute announcer, Rich Fields, was fired in 2010 and he, too, will have a succession of sub-announcers until a permanent successor is picked Incidentally, both of the men who announced the 1950s version (Don Pardo and Johnny Gilbert) are still alive, and Gilbert is still active announcing Jeopardy!.
    • There's also the fact that Bob Barker held onto the hosting position well into his eighties before Drew Carey took over.
  • Similarly, Wheel of Fortune has had changeover in all three typical game show roles (host, announcer, model):
    • Host Chuck Woolery left the show in 1981, and Pat Sajak replaced him. After a nighttime version of the show began in 1983, Sajak pulled double-duty until he abandoned the morning version for a Talk Show in 1989. The morning version was handed over to Rolf Benirschke and then Bob Goen before limping its way into 1992. Sajak has held down the nighttime version for its entire run.
    • Charlie O'Donnell announced the show from 1975 until the early 1980s, when Jack Clark took over. After Clark's mid-1988 death, he was replaced by M. G. Kelly until early 1989, when Kelly was replaced by ...Charlie O'Donnell, who still announces the show to this day.
    • Susan Stafford, the original letter-turner, left a few months after Pat took over. After a rotation of substitutes, Vanna White was picked, and her popularity has made her iconic of game show models as a whole.
  • No-one ever questions why Gethin Jones replaced Adrian Simpson on Police, Camera, Action! from November 2008 onwards.

because I don't think they're examples of the trope; no-one tried to pretend it was the same "character", did they?
98.127.129.167
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06:51:47 PM Aug 16th 2010
Anime and Manga:

I realize it is standard to label that folder as such, but can this really be a problem with a 'manga?' It seems odd is all.
108.6.177.148
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06:32:52 AM Jul 19th 2010
And of course Lionel Jefferson on "The Jeffersons", played by Mike Evans and Damon Evans, and then Mike Evans again.
65.34.57.210
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03:06:40 PM May 23rd 2010
Harry Potter - Lavender Brown and Pansy Parkinson were recast as well (quite noticably in the case of Lavender since she changed races)
Miaka
03:47:28 PM Jun 29th 2010
I'm actually rather surprised that Detective Conan hadn't been mentioned yet (just added it). Mouri-tantei's voice was replaced last fall with a distinctly different one. It's always jarring when you have a new voice that is different from the old one, but it's even more so when the new voice comes in after more than 550 episodes and 13 movies (plus various OV As and specials) with the original voice.... Don't get me wrong, the new voice is quite good, but it takes some getting used to.
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