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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 20th 2021 at 11:49:59 AM •••

Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Needs Help, started by Twentington on May 27th 2012 at 5:04:16 AM

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DaibhidC Wizzard Since: Jan, 2001
Wizzard
Jan 22nd 2017 at 2:35:33 PM •••

If this isn't just about fan portrayals, then what distinguishes it from other gender-bending tropes? Isn't the point of having Gender Flip, Distaff Counterpart, etc. not to have one big trope that lists all of them?

MercenX smgy Since: Nov, 2010
smgy
Apr 7th 2014 at 1:54:54 AM •••

Supposedly Rule 63 is about fan-made gender-swaps. Yet many of the examples on the page are canon. It contains pretty much all variations: cross-dressing, gender-bending, gender-flipping, distaff counterparts... I think the page should be soft-split or what-have-you.

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MrMediaGuy Since: Sep, 2011
Feb 15th 2012 at 11:33:23 AM •••

I can't help but disagree with this rule. I looked on Deviant ART but I couldn't find any female versions of Calvin And Hobbes.

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MercenX Since: Nov, 2010
Apr 6th 2014 at 7:03:27 PM •••

There are plenty of examples I could cite... if I took the time to remember, that do not meet Rule 63.

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suedenim Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl Since: Oct, 2009
Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl
Dec 29th 2010 at 6:21:50 AM •••

Except for Chuck Norris, that is, by rule of Rule Sixty-One.

I think this needs clarification and explanation. Not knowing what Rule Sixty-One is supposed to be, I googled it and found at least three different "Internet Rules" using that number (and one Federal Rule of Civil Procedure, which presumably isn't what we're talking about.)

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StongRadd Since: Feb, 2010
Feb 3rd 2011 at 8:07:59 PM •••

Not even Chuck Norris. Rule Sixty-One lied to you.

People overlooked that rule. To the point that it was never put on the list.

Stoogebie Since: Apr, 2011
Jun 8th 2011 at 3:02:26 PM •••

Technically, there is an exception to Rule 63 though. Chrona from Soul Eater. That is all.

Vendince Since: Dec, 2011
Mar 1st 2013 at 9:03:44 AM •••

I thought Zeratul from Starcraft and Starcraft 2 was an exception to rule 63, though. At least I can't find any pictures.

Thecommander236 Since: Aug, 2011
Mar 2nd 2013 at 12:20:32 PM •••

Ambiguous Gender characters and don't say that Vendince.

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer (Before Recorded History)
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
Mar 31st 2012 at 6:47:32 AM •••

Does this rule a specific corollary regarding porn of actual Gender Bending characters, like Ranma Saotome?

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MrDeath Since: Aug, 2009
Dec 5th 2011 at 10:38:40 AM •••

Because someone made an Imagelinks Wiki subpate for Crossover Ship, but not for this trope.

LikaLaruku Since: May, 2010
Jun 12th 2011 at 11:52:42 PM •••

Someone needs to create a name for the opposite of rule 63. It's rarer but it exists. I remember encountering a few gender-swapped Sailor Moon doujinshis on the net in the early 2000s, & of course there's always Deviant Art.

Unless of course the Gender Swap trope excludes all female versions of male characters.

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SamMax Since: Sep, 2011
Oct 25th 2011 at 10:30:27 AM •••

Cleaned up Natter regarding One Piece. If you think I did a bad job (and I probably did), you are allowed to do better.

Ether101Prime Since: Jan, 2001
Sep 10th 2011 at 3:24:17 AM •••

Which episode is the Generator Rex example form? And is that supposed to be Rex and Noah?

isten Since: Sep, 2011
Sep 6th 2011 at 12:10:30 AM •••

I really dont know how or if or what, but Baldurs Gate's Edwin shouldnt be in the Video Games section, as the game itself produces Edwina? Though they dont coexist.

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suedenim Since: Oct, 2009
Sep 6th 2011 at 9:53:32 AM •••

Edwin/Baldur's Gate doesn't appear to be in ANY section at present, nor do I see a deleted example from the History.

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Sol9000 GammaWALLE Since: Aug, 2011
GammaWALLE
Aug 29th 2011 at 10:06:42 AM •••

A book series I'm helping out with is gonna do this on purpose, and the character it has a variant of will either marry it or Kill It with Fire... Depends on what I'm in the mood for, either happiness or depression for the counterpart.

So please, save your version of the Inventor/Sorcerer until the end of the last book

98.119.254.210 Since: Dec, 1969
Jun 2nd 2010 at 8:13:36 PM •••

Soul eater recently swapped the genders of many of the characters in the manga. Should that be mentioned?

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Shota Since: Oct, 2010
Oct 17th 2010 at 2:53:07 PM •••

Only if the mangaka is a "fan" of Soul Eater. Though, in this case, it's something that did NOT arise from the internet, so it's hard to judge.

suedenim Since: Oct, 2009
Oct 17th 2010 at 3:14:10 PM •••

I don't think there can be a totally hard-and-fast rule one way or the other. The way I think of it is sort of "Did this get a big reaction out of fans, such that it had a life beyond that story?"

For instance, the Gender Bender issue of Guy Gardner - people liked it and all, but by and large, nobody's doing much with the "female Guy" concept.

OTOH, the "Captain America and Iron Man" example was a minor gag in one story, but one that seemed to set off a lot of fans' imaginations.

Both come out of "official" stories, in other words, but in one case, the fans went off and ran with it, which puts it in this trope.

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