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11:12:07 AM Apr 7th 2015
Removed this bullet from the Avatar: The Legend of Korra example:

  • It is notable that in the series, they use debending as a metaphor for death. This allows them to get away with probably the closest thing to the Holocaust ever shown on children's programming. Plus, if you're going to get away with the villains going out in a Murder-Suicide, you're going need to make all the sacrifices you can get.

They don't really use de-bending as a metaphor for death — after they die, people aren't usually seen walking around spiritless and hopeless. And they don't get better in teh season finale! If de-bending is a metaphor for anything, it's more like sexual assault (but even that's kind of iffy). And the comparison to the Holocaust is pretty weak. And the last sentence makes very little sense.
11:42:09 AM Apr 7th 2015
The first debending is staged like a public execution in a Does This Remind You of Anything? way, but... yeah, that bullet has to go.
10:49:27 AM Jul 6th 2014
I read somewhere that in P. G. Wodehouse 's stories he uses euphemisms for death all the time. I'm not sure this is true or if it belongs here. It might have something to do with death being mentioned in context of someone's parents die and leaves them a fortune as backstory for a comedy.
03:58:48 PM Dec 8th 2012
Is this trope only about refusal to say "die" or "kill", or a catch-all page for censorship on kids' shows? Because the description sure seems to think it's the latter, even though there are only a handful of actual examples that go outside the scope of the former.
10:09:05 PM Aug 10th 2012
Was this named after the catchphrase in the movie Goonies? (Which swore quite a bit for it's PG rating, and given all of the things that the movie complains, implied torture, and perhaps the first instance of Cool and Unusual Punishment in its modern common incarnation ... how has this movie not been re-rated to PG-13? Especially with the Cyndy Lauper music.) Only one instance of Goonies is mentioned in the page, which is in the music section.
04:51:15 PM Nov 29th 2011
Does this count if they aren't using death in a literal sense, but are still using words like "kill" and "die"? For example, in Friendship is Magic of all things, Rarity says "couldn't you just simply die!" (regarding clothes) and when the mayor dresses as a clown for Nightmare Night, Spike says "The rainbow wig kills it for me." Would these go on this page, or is there a more relevant page for them?
04:55:05 PM Jul 10th 2010
  • In Master of the Mirage Pokemon, the virtual Mew is decompiled and his data taken (full-on Digimon Tamers style!) by Mewtwo but manages to hold him back from within, allowing Mewtwo to be taken out, which sends Mew to his death again. There's a tearful goodbye as Mew fades to nothing. In the end, the entire VR system is destroyed. In other words, Mew is dead times three. It... doesn't get much deader than that. However, our heroes (and narrator) are certain that Mew survived and they'll all see him again. Uh... suuure.

The characters not guess Mew survived, they guess Mew SOUL survived, because he was more than a mere program.
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