How sweet it is
Since the cleanup threads that could cover this trope have both been stagnant for a while, I'll let this thread have a chance here.
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I think this is too broad to be meaningful and is thus not tropeworthy, aside from narrower cases like Beard of Barbarism.
This line:
makes me think what it wants to be is Beard Of Masculinity, akin to Carpet of Virility. The kind of lush facial hair you'd expect to see on a Mighty Lumberjack.
Edited by Synchronicity on Oct 22nd 2021 at 3:54:47 AM
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
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I agree. As a side note, "too broad to be meaningful" describes why a lot of Badass Tropes have been cut outright.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 22nd 2021 at 10:22:55 AM
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The Unknown
Cut and call it a day.
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Also People Sit on Chairs. The description doesn't draw meaning from badass and beard together.
With 10000 inbounds, it can disambig to Badass Mustache, Hot Blooded Sideburns, Perma-Stubble
Edited by Tabs on Oct 22nd 2021 at 9:26:01 AM
I still want to check Badass Mustache to see if it has similar problems. The subtropes like Beard of Barbarism going on a disambig, I would support.
Might be good to, though at least Mustache's description goes through why "mustache" can associated with "badass".
Angry babby
Disambiguate like its badass siblings. Split into new tropes if necessary.
Edited by mightymewtron on Oct 23rd 2021 at 7:40:11 AM
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
I wouldn't mind a Masculine Beard trope. Or Masculine Facial Hair if we want to combine it with Badass Moustache.
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^ What would be the difference to the respective current tropes?
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Currently, they both seem like they'd cover the "facial hair is masculine" concept but also cover a much broader range, based on the fact that they're about the hair being "badass" in some way. It'd be a much narrower and more meaningful trope.
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Sounds good on paper (he/him)
Maybe Facial Hair Of Virility, for the sake of analogy with Carpet of Virility.
I performed a wick check on Badass Mustache to see how it compared to Badass Beard in terms of the problems.
Correct Usage: 3.4%
Misuse: 19%
Zero-Context: 51.8%
Other: 25.9%
Ok coming at this from a different angle... what about Flaunting The Beard? These badasses flaunt their beard in some way. Historically people like Guan Yu actually had Beard Bags that they put their beards in and only brought them out for formal occasions and such.
Or 'Warrior Long Beard'? Like a long beard is an absolutely stupid idea on a battlefield (as is long hair in general) but characters do it and treat it as a badge of honor, when it really is a sign of cockiness or stupidity.
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
I'd be fine with merging Badass Mustache and Badass Beard (possibly into the Facial Hair Of Virility trope I suggested), now that we have wick checks for both.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 25th 2021 at 4:33:43 AM
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I don't see the second working unless there's some in-universe acknowledgement.
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
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Memers, your ideas seem potentially viable, but I've never seen examples of either. At least, not that I can remember. Feel free to attempt them in TLP though if you think they can exist.
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Sounds good on paper (he/him)
Also, if we go with the Facial Hair Of Virility suggestion, we could have Mustache Of Virility, Moustache Of Virility, and Beard Of Virility as redirects (two of these involve the same word spelled two different ways).
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Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
Facial Hair Of Virility is a good name.
Barbarian Long Beard (based on Barbarian Long Hair) could be a redirect.
Kirby is awesome.
So we could do both a disambig and a new combined trope? As in, we redirect Badass Beard and Badass Moustache to a disambig, and then if there are any good usable examples for a new trope if one gets agreed upon, we can move them to a draft in TLP?
Professional Wick Checker
Sounds like a good plan.
So far I think the ideas are:
- Merge Badass Beard and Badass Mustache
- Turn Badass Beard into a disambig for tropes like Hot Blooded Sideburns and Perma-Stubble
- Create a new trope for facial hair being seen as masculine
Am I missing anything?
Edited by Walkinshadows on Oct 26th 2021 at 10:40:22 AM
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
I can't think of anything.
Crown Description:
Consensus was to merge Badass Beard and Badass Mustache into a new trope about facial hair indicating masculinity. What should the merged trope be called?
Badass Beard is a trope about badass characters with beards. However, it attracts many zero-context examples that simply list a character's name or state that they have a beard without explaining how it is connected with being a badass. Some examples also state how a beard is impressive without explaining how the person with the beard is a badass. This may be because of an unclear trope description and/or name.
Bolded comments and potholes. Five wicks had both correct and ZCE/incorrect usage, hence why the total example count is actually 83, with 67 wicks checked.
Wicks Checked: 67/67