Not Thriving: Tutu Fancy

Tutu Fancy has 26 wicks and is really light on examples, some of which seem to deal with a costume with little, if any resemblance to a ballerina costume, or the offending element in question is some other trope like a Giant Waist Ribbon.

The trope's description is also somewhat vague. Is this just dealing with any ballet outfit that you wouldn't perform ballet in, or does the character actually have to dance in a ballet in the Impractically Fancy Outfit without making a mistake? The addition of the bit about figure skaters also doesn't help with this, especially when the one figure skater example about Sonja Henie isn't even a ballet outfit, it's just Impractically Fancy Outfit.

The Super-Trope, Impractically Fancy Outfit leaves this description: Dancers portrayed in clothes that would actually be unsafe to dance in. Would it maybe make more sense to expand this trope so that it involves any character that dances without fail in an Impractically Fancy Outfit?

edited 8th Mar '17 12:25:46 AM by YourIdeas

This looks like one of these useless appearance tropes. Cut and whoever thinks there is a trope here can work on it in TLP.

This isn't too much of a thing outside Lolita Fashion and Frills of Justice / Frilly Upgrade.

Specifically Sweet Lolita styles which most Magical Girl outfits are part of, which is most of the examples on the page.

edited 8th Mar '17 9:22:40 AM by Memers

I agree with Septimus. There's not storytelling convention here, it's thinly-veiled sneering at a visual aspect that isn't exactly right in the opinion of whoever adds the example.

Seconding a cut, per the reasons above.

Actually, I suggest sending it back to the Trope Launch Pad.

Exactly what would come out of that? The important parts are pretty much already covered by other tropes.

It could be a trope, the use of dancewear outside of situations it would be appropriate in order to emphasize that a character is a dancer (or wants to be one). But right now, it's another one of those meaningless "people wear <this>, and creators get it wrong!" messes.

Appearance trope, cut it.

I'd like mod input on this. Are Appearance Tropes the new Stock Phrases now? Or are we just chopping the ones that become a ZCE/misuse magnet?

edited 10th Mar '17 5:44:29 PM by Theatre_Maven_3695

(Not a mod.)

The latter. I personally just have little tolerance for them.

Now, as not-a-mod, the sort of thing I'm talking about is, for instance, a character wearing her leotard and dance shoes as she's going to class rather than carrying a gear bag or wearing other clothes over them. That sort of thing is "the character wants everyone to know that they're a dancer". It's characterization, not just "dance clothes"

Seems like something for TLP.

That sounds like wearing your club outfit home or something to that effect. Akin to wearing a swimsuit under your school uniform, a common Fully-Clothed Nudity thing.

Something completely different from this which is 'tutus are fancy' which imo isn't a thing outside certain subsets of Lolita Fashion.

edited 14th Mar '17 11:01:19 PM by Memers

The use of specialized clothes such as dancewear outside of situations it would be appropriate, in order to emphasize that the character is a dancer/fireman/astronaut/whatever seems like it might be a good trope. The same thing limited only to danceware seems a little overly specific.

In any case, I don't think either one is this trope.

Yeah it would be like seeing someone walking home with a baseball bat and gloves, you don't ever need to see them play to know they play with that.

No, it would be like seeing someone walking home not only still in the full uniform, but with his spikes on.

That seems a little excessive in getting the point across.

But anyway we need a crowner to cut this? No one so far has expressed any kind of support I don't think.

It only has 26 wicks and most of them are shoehorned Magical Girl using styles split off from Ama Loli Lolita Fashion. And we already have Frills of Justice for frilly Magical Girl outfits, Frilly Upgrade with how each powerup their costume gets more and more frills, and Lolita Fashion for the fashion style based on lots and lots of frills.

edited 15th Mar '17 1:43:15 AM by Memers

That reminds me of the time where I removed Cure Flora's entry in Go Princess Precure because her costume isn't a tutu. I still don't get why it's added back, but I later take it as a Trope variant for her costume being a mini-dressed ballgown.

Bump. Is it okay to send this back to TLP?

This used to have more examples, that were removed for "misuse". Such as Aja Kong, a sumo inspired monster, wearing a Tutu in Fighting Opera HUSTLE for her Girly Girl gimmick Erica, as if putting some makeup, bright colors and tutu on the monster made so much more graceful.

If we can have those examples back, this page can be saved, maybe. It already has enough wicks but it needs more examples.

None of those are in the history. Never seen any of those but they seem off from the trope.

Him from Power Puff Girls wears a tutu to help hint that he might be gay.

And there was a fanwork example where Boogeymon were taking dancing lessons from Mr 2 and Phelesmon (basically the German demon Mephistopheles), showed up late in a tutu.

Maybe they're not in the history because it was a long time ago, or maybe those were examples that were never cross wicked back to the page itself, but there were more examples. If those can be added to the page it will be fine. It already has enough wicks.

Edit: The tutu example was Margaret. I added that one myself, back in 2014 but didn't get around to cross wicking it. I never noticed it was deleted, much less checked the reason why, until now. Lack of context, which is fine, I've just given the context(Margaret was also a sumo inspired monster, a suspiciously similar substitute for Aja Kong, before HUSTLE also gave her girly girl trappings such as tutus).

edited 6th Aug '17 11:13:03 AM by IndirectActiveTransport