All-Purpose Policy and Meta discussion: Administrivia.Trope Repair Shop

Mods, would it be possible to routinely pin the first post with a crowner link in every TRS thread that has one? With crowners broken, hooking of crowners is completely useless, and seems to be applied inconsistently. As such, we have to rely on the direct link to vote on crowners, and these posts often get lost if there is continued discussion after the crowner is created.

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On the topic of TRS thread lying stagnant for a year and being closed with nothing done, which we still haven't found a solution for last time I checked, that's a problem in IP but not to the same extent. I think this is probably because changing a single image is easier than changing hundreds of wicks, even there's consensus to do either. And also because there are a lot of threads and it's hard to deal with all of them.

Edited by Lymantria on Jan 13th 2019 at 7:15:38 AM

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Recently I opened a discussion on why Emoticon should be Useful Notes. One of the mods (Septimus Heap) promptly threw the discussion into the morgue, claiming Emoticons are Paratext. When I messaged him and noted that this is false, he still insisted he was right in cutting off the discussion because he said so. I'd like to know what other mods thinks of this, but to me this seems like an abuse of power.

To whit, what I said was

and (when asked about whether they were actually paratext)

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

This page isn't about how emoticons convey "informality or modernity" in Chat Speak, it's for whenever an emoticon appears in a work, which is essentially People Sit on Chairs.

For example, we don't have the trope Hashtag, but we do have #HashtagForLaughs.

Edited by SingingRain on Feb 9th 2019 at 1:45:39 PM

I apologize if this is not the correct place to bring this. I just noticed this page, Adaptational Ability, was just launched. It obviously was not a good draft to begin with, let alone be launched, so it should be sent back to the TLP.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13544789560A75740100&page=276

This is the proper place for that.

This forum seems really undermoderated at the moment. We have a dozen unopened threads currently, the oldest of which has been that way for more than two weeks, quite a lot of threads with expired clocks, one of which expired as much as two and a half months ago, and a lot of old, concluded threads that haven't been closed yet. This one hasn't been touched in over a year.

I screened the unopened threads. One common element that is missing from them is a wick check; something we require people to do. I let a few pass because the writeup adequately demonstrates the problem, even though I probably shouldn't per our policy.

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We still have threads that have been inactive for a year? Told you something about TRS still needs to be fixed.

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You could bump them for updates.

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Is that allowed?

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Where did the Face Death with Dignity thread go?

Closed due to inactivity.

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Would Big Damn Kiss, a redirect, having about double the wicks than its target, The Big Damn Kiss, ~1800 vs ~1000, respectively, be a reason to "rename" the trope?

Edited by Malady on Mar 7th 2019 at 7:32:03 AM

Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576

I'd say no, if only because the names are already so similar.

Sorry if this is a lot, but there's a lot to take care of.

• Locked threads pending review (reason in quotes):
  • Pandaing to the Audience: "Snowclone".
  • Relationship Writing Fumble: "Ambiguous Name". Related to the Designated Love Interest thread.
  • Blaming The Railroaded Player Character: "Misused".
  • Go Out With A Smile: "Unclear Description".
  • (unnamed topic): "Unclear Description". Discusses Animate Body Parts and Organ Autonomy.
  • Biker Babe: "Needs Help".
  • Ronin: "Needs Help".
  • No Big Deal: "Duplicate Trope".
  • Shaggy Search Technique: "Needs Help".
  • The Man Is Sticking It To The Man: "Complaining".
  • Bishonen Jump Syndrome: "Needs help".
  • Short Title: Long, Elaborate Subtitle: "Not Tropeworthy".
  • Animorphism: "Ambiguous Name".
  • Re-Ditto: "Not Thriving".
  • Randomized Damage Attack: "Unclear Description".
• Crowners to attach:
  • Designated Love Interest
  • Too Smart For Strangers
• Crowners to close:
  • Queer Media
  • Name Order Confusion
  • Keet
  • Temporary Super Star
  • Fragile Flower
  • Fandom Berserk Button
  • Ghost Lights - Also listed as pending final action.
  • The Jail Bait Wait - Pending final action, crowner is still open.
  • Oba-san - Thread is closed, crowner is not.
• Other:
  • We Have Been Researching Phlebotinum For Years - Broken crowner.
  • Acceptable Lifestyle Targets - Consensus is in favor of cutting the trope.
  • The Edwardian Era - Close as the issue has been resolved.

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The moderators are handling some of these topics right now. Some have been opened, some crowners appear to be inadequate as noted in thread. Otherwise:

• Ghost Lights: May need some more votes.
• The Jailbait Wait: This was something I wanted to work on - I did start the thread after all - but Real Life started to interfere.
• We Have Been Researching Phlebotinum For Years: Probably needs a new crowner; old one's broken.
• The Edwardian Era: Closed.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

Is there a way to do a wick check without manually counting or numbering tens of thousands of list items?

Edit: Whoops, I read the number of people as the number of articles, but it would still be nice to know if there's a way to do a wick check without manual counting or numbering.

Edited by UNoWho on Mar 26th 2019 at 11:26:45 AM

Never mind, I found one. Notepad has a line counter, so if I paste the wicks from the related search page into there and delete every line that isn't a wick, it'll count them for me.

Which wicks do I check? The links to trope pages are impractical to check because of potholes. Do I have to check them?

If there is more than 400 wicks, you check a number of wicks equivalent to the square root of the total number of links. If there are 400 or less wicks, you check 20. Taking randomly from the Related To page.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

Yes, checking potholes are part of the standard wick check.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.

What do I do if the RNG lands on the trope page or one of its redirects?, Also, I thought you had to do at least 50.

Edited by UNoWho on Mar 26th 2019 at 2:37:57 AM

If RNG lands on a redirect, you note it is a redirect in the Wick Check and move on. Sometimes there's something more to say, but usually isn't.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.