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I would agree that the concepts are distinct enough that the page could be hard split.
Edited by DEIDATVM on Mar 25th 2019 at 10:35:45 AM
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I vote to hard split the classic and modern variants, leaving the page Rōnin as a Super-Trope.
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I agree with the split, but we may want a name crowner for each concept.
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Seconded.
I am aganst splitting, the soft split is just fine.
It is the same connotations They are constantly compared to each other to the point where there is usually imagery of them as an old fashion Ronin.
Not even The Other Wiki separates them
In modern Japanese usage, sometimes the term is used to describe a salaryman who is unemployed or a secondary school graduate who has not yet been admitted to university.
Edited by Memers on Mar 25th 2019 at 4:17:18 AM
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I agree with ; a soft split is fine, keeping the examples distinct on the page.
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Maybe hard split but have them be sister tropes?
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It's already soft-split.
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I think the soft-split is fine. The only problem I see is the miscellaneous section, which is a combination of "Samurai Ronin, but not in Japan" and just uses of the word, the latter being Not a Trope.
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The stereotype for Non-Japanese Ronin would be an Armed Drifter character trope. You see it in Westerns and Punk Punk works.
It would be worthy of a trope I think but not this one.
Edited by Memers on Mar 28th 2019 at 3:03:27 AM
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Rōnin refers to various things: There's a "Traditional Ronin" section for samurai, a "Modern-Day Ronin" section for students/workers, and a "Other uses of the term Ronin" for miscellaneous examples.
The first two variations seem different enough to be their own individual tropes. The page should probably be hard-split into two separate pages. I brought it up in Trope Talk and it was mentioned that maybe "Classic Ronin" and "Academic Ronin" could work.