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Misused: Always Night get usage counts

 1 shimaspawn, Fri, 27th Dec '13 2:46:52 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
The description indicates that this is a horror trope but the examples just list any work that is always set at night. Or even just mostly at night.

edited 27th Dec '13 2:50:41 PM by shimaspawn

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 2 Septimus Heap, Fri, 27th Dec '13 2:53:02 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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I am not sure that "mostly at night" entries should stay here, and I doubt that restricting this to horror makes sense really - the description goes into detail about why horror might use it but whether the trope works only there is a different question.

edited 27th Dec '13 2:58:34 PM by SeptimusHeap

 3 My Final Edits, Fri, 27th Dec '13 3:38:36 PM from Venezuela Relationship Status: Desperate
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How about limiting examples to those where the setting is perpetually nocturnal? Either due to some magical curse, or for geological reasons.
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 4 shimaspawn, Fri, 27th Dec '13 3:43:01 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Or even for completely unexplained reasons. Ruby Gloom comes to mind as a place where it's always night because it is.

edited 27th Dec '13 3:44:41 PM by shimaspawn

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
 5 nrjxll, Fri, 27th Dec '13 4:22:38 PM Relationship Status: Not war
We already have the The Night That Never Ends, but that's apparently about a villain attempting to create such a setting.

 6 shimaspawn, Fri, 27th Dec '13 4:44:11 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Yeah, that's the plot. This is the setting. They're siblings, but not the same.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
 7 nrjxll, Fri, 27th Dec '13 5:02:29 PM Relationship Status: Not war
I should note that Horror Takes Place At Night is probably a worthwhile trope.

edited 27th Dec '13 5:02:38 PM by nrjxll

 8 shimaspawn, Fri, 27th Dec '13 5:26:12 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Maybe just Nightime Horror as opposed to Daylight Horror for that one.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
 9 shimaspawn, Sun, 29th Dec '13 12:00:12 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
So what do we do with the examples right now? A lot of them seem to be, sometimes it's night.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
 10 Septimus Heap, Sun, 29th Dec '13 12:03:30 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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Hmmm ... remove the "sometimes during night, sometimes during day" examples? They are just the statistical mean; this trope requires a trend towards nighttime at least.

Always Night, as a title, sounds like a supertrope that could cover any number of genres or reasons for darkness. I'd be inclined to expand its meaning, and possibly make a more specific subtrope for Horror movies if anyone really thinks it necessary. However personally, I don't think there is enough of a distinction between nocturnal monsters in "horror" vs. "fantasy" or "science fiction" to necessitate making this genre specific.

Well, maybe not splitting it by genre, but by something else? Just off the top of my head, a horror movie would have it be night at all times for ambiance, while a video game might do it because it's easier to run graphics that way (similar to the famous fog trick that Silent Hill pioneered).
 13 m8e, Mon, 30th Dec '13 3:43:35 PM from Sweden Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
It shouldn't be split by genre, it should be split by how and why it's used.

In some works Always Night is used to make a work scarier(related to Nothing Is Scarier?), other times it just aesthetics, like in some Film Noir or Cyber Punk stories(sister trope to Cyberpunk with a Chance of Rain). Both if these would be "ambiance".

It could also be because of more technical reasons like simpler graphics in a videogame as mentioned in [up], but technical reasons could include hiding lower quality sets, Rubber Suits or whatever.

edited 30th Dec '13 3:48:56 PM by m8e

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 14 Septimus Heap, Tue, 31st Dec '13 1:18:18 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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I am not particularly keen on splitting this in any way. Splits by purpose tend to be very confusing to add to.

 15 shimaspawn, Wed, 15th Jan '14 7:53:20 AM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
I agree, and people can argue greatly about if it's ambiance or laziness. That split just seems like it's opening the door to complaining.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
 16 shimaspawn, Mon, 3rd Feb '14 2:14:49 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Ok, so we want to use this particular trope for works where it is actually Always Night or effects where that would be the result. Not just works where sometimes it happens to get dark.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
 17 Willbyr, Mon, 3rd Mar '14 8:33:11 AM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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I would say leave the title alone, to reflect settings where it is in fact Always Night, and revise the description to include all the ways in which the Always Night trope is used—for horror, or to establish a mood, or maybe a setting like 30 Days of Night where it actually is always night for some reason. Prune the trope list of examples where it isn't actually Always Night.

edited 3rd Mar '14 10:31:50 AM by gallium

 19 StarSword, Mon, 3rd Mar '14 11:35:01 AM from somewhere in deep space Relationship Status: In denial
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[up]In other words, redefine the trope to match the misuse.
[up]Yep, pretty much.

 21 StarSword, Mon, 3rd Mar '14 12:41:45 PM from somewhere in deep space Relationship Status: In denial
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I'm good with that. Anyone else?
Redefine to which misuse?
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 23 StarSword, Mon, 3rd Mar '14 2:51:23 PM from somewhere in deep space Relationship Status: In denial
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[up]What gallium said in post 18: settings where it's always night (the night side of a Tidally Locked Planet would be a sci-fi example). In other words, make a vague title indicative.
I'm good with that as well. Think we need a crowner for this?

 25 StarSword, Wed, 5th Mar '14 7:55:35 PM from somewhere in deep space Relationship Status: In denial
SF-81A Black Knight
Probably; not many people seem to have weighed in. Anyone else got any ideas on what to do with it?

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