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Needs Help (Runoff crowner 7/07/13): Chaste Teens get usage counts

 26 Septimus Heap, Wed, 12th Jun '13 10:22:02 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Part of the reason I didn't is because it would be kind-of a subtrope of No Hugging, No Kissing anyhow.

But editors that just look at crowners, not threads, would derive the conclusion that it will not be a subtrope of NHNK.
Still new. Still learning. Asking questions and making mistakes.
 28 Larkmarn, Wed, 12th Jun '13 10:30:55 AM Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
The reason I like the idea of keeping it as a separate subtrope would be to have a direct opposite to Hormone-Addled Teenager. I think there's some value to that.

Though upon further thought, I suppose a perfect opposite would be more along the lines of a singular chaste teen. Is there a trope for... well, for a prude?

 29 Septimus Heap, Wed, 12th Jun '13 10:32:13 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
It's worth noting that there is more to Hormone-Addled Teenager than being a sex- and-date hungry casanova.

 30 Donaldthe Potholer, Sat, 22nd Jun '13 7:25:56 AM from Somewhere in (not)Miami
I'm thinking that the key reason why this is a supposed Anime Trope is because of the highly sexualized nature of Teen Dramas in the West. (Not to say that there aren't highly sexualized Anime, Far from it; it's more of a commentary in absentia about the West's Opinions on the matter.)

Actually, I'm thinking that there may well be a Western Animation example: My Little Pony G1 (excepting My Little Pony Tales) and G4.

EDIT: Furthermore, if the "attractive girls" are actually "sitting around lamenting the lack of romance in their lives", then No Hugging, No Kissing is not a Super Trope, not is its opposite Hormone-Addled Teenager. Rather, its Sister and opposite is Celibate Hero (which is about the direct refusal of a hero to get a date).

edited 22nd Jun '13 7:35:04 AM by DonaldthePotholer

 31 Septimus Heap, Sat, 22nd Jun '13 7:29:23 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
If we keep this page, we'll need to find whether it refers to sex or romance.

In kids shows, this sounds like an Enforced Trope that would really be People Sit on Chairs.

The reason that it is currently anime only is that many shows have an Improbably Female Cast and not meant to sexualize its characters, something not many Western shows aimed at adults are. Though that doesn't explain the exclusion of video games. To expand to other media would make the trope lose meaning. That's why I suggested that the trope be redefined to deal with shows with Improbably Female Cast not getting involved in romance.

 33 Septimus Heap, Sat, 22nd Jun '13 7:36:25 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Teens are not "kids" for the purposes of this, mate. And while there is no rule or reason for a teens' show to not have romance, there are reasons for teens to not have sex.

 34 Donaldthe Potholer, Sat, 22nd Jun '13 7:37:20 AM from Somewhere in (not)Miami
[up][up][up]In modern Western Media, there seems to be little distinction anymore. Sad, really.

[up][up]Maybe because, aside from the shows that I just referenced, there are very few shows with an Improbably Female Cast in the West. (EDIT: And I just remembered that the latter of those two at least has quite a few guys too.) Whereas the Improbably Male Cast was so ubiquitous once upon a time, that its aversion was Tropable.

edited 22nd Jun '13 7:45:27 AM by DonaldthePotholer

Do we call this or wait for more votes?

edited 7th Jul '13 3:02:21 AM by MikuruFan

 36 Septimus Heap, Sun, 7th Jul '13 3:05:21 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
More votes. This sort of vote constellation (one top option with many votes, another with much less votes but far stronger consensus) is one which is very common in sudden upsets.

 37 Willbyr, Sun, 7th Jul '13 4:03:29 PM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Anime-ted
Should we have a runoff crowner?
 38 Septimus Heap, Sun, 7th Jul '13 4:18:25 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Yes.

 39 Willbyr, Sun, 7th Jul '13 9:19:59 PM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
With Mod Hat On
[up] It's hooked.
I voted this up. No one has yet explained why there should be a teens-only subtrope of No Hugging, No Kissing. Sure, you might expect romance between teens, but you might equally well expect romance with any example in No Hugging, No Kissing - if you have no special reason to expect it, it's not an example.

 41 Septimus Heap, Mon, 8th Jul '13 2:08:54 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Well, at least (stereo-)typical teenagers are usually shown as romance-hungry things...

edited 8th Jul '13 2:27:09 AM by SeptimusHeap

Like I said, every single example of No Hugging, No Kissing is "You'd think there'd be sex and romance here, but there isn't." If the characters aren't the sort of people you'd expect to be romance hungry - children, the elderly, whatever - it's not an example.

 43 Noaqiyeum, Mon, 8th Jul '13 3:02:06 PM from across the gulf of space Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
the it-thingy
I agree with Amy.
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Called for merge into no hugging, kissing.

edited 14th Jul '13 11:56:45 AM by FastEddie

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
 45 Septimus Heap, Sun, 14th Jul '13 12:05:34 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Huh.

Did the redirecting and tagging. Will take care of the wicks as soon as my lappie is down to a manageable temperature.

eta: Done.

edited 14th Jul '13 12:38:04 PM by SeptimusHeap

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Single Proposition: Chaste Teens Runoff
7th Jul '13 4:17:08 PM
Vote up for yes, down for no.
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