Needs Help (Runoff crowner 7/07/13): Chaste Teens

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26 SeptimusHeap12th Jun 2013 10:22:02 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
Part of the reason I didn't is because it would be kind-of a subtrope of No Hugging, No Kissing anyhow.
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
But editors that just look at crowners, not threads, would derive the conclusion that it will not be a subtrope of NHNK.
28 Larkmarn12th Jun 2013 10:30:55 AM , Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
The reason I like the idea of keeping it as a separate subtrope would be to have a direct opposite to Hormone-Addled Teenager. I think there's some value to that.

Though upon further thought, I suppose a perfect opposite would be more along the lines of a singular chaste teen. Is there a trope for... well, for a prude?
29 SeptimusHeap12th Jun 2013 10:32:13 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
It's worth noting that there is more to Hormone-Addled Teenager than being a sex- and-date hungry casanova.
30 DonaldthePotholer22nd Jun 2013 07:25:56 AM from Somewhere in (not)Miami
I'm thinking that the key reason why this is a supposed Anime Trope is because of the highly sexualized nature of Teen Dramas in the West. (Not to say that there aren't highly sexualized Anime, Far from it; it's more of a commentary in absentia about the West's Opinions on the matter.)

Actually, I'm thinking that there may well be a Western Animation example: My Little Pony G1 (excepting My Little Pony Tales) and G4.

EDIT: Furthermore, if the "attractive girls" are actually "sitting around lamenting the lack of romance in their lives", then No Hugging, No Kissing is not a Super Trope, not is its opposite Hormone-Addled Teenager. Rather, its Sister and opposite is Celibate Hero (which is about the direct refusal of a hero to get a date).

edited 22nd Jun '13 7:35:04 AM by DonaldthePotholer

31 SeptimusHeap22nd Jun 2013 07:29:23 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
If we keep this page, we'll need to find whether it refers to sex or romance.
In kids shows, this sounds like an Enforced Trope that would really be People Sit on Chairs.

The reason that it is currently anime only is that many shows have an Improbably Female Cast and not meant to sexualize its characters, something not many Western shows aimed at adults are. Though that doesn't explain the exclusion of video games. To expand to other media would make the trope lose meaning. That's why I suggested that the trope be redefined to deal with shows with Improbably Female Cast not getting involved in romance.
33 SeptimusHeap22nd Jun 2013 07:36:25 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
Teens are not "kids" for the purposes of this, mate. And while there is no rule or reason for a teens' show to not have romance, there are reasons for teens to not have sex.
34 DonaldthePotholer22nd Jun 2013 07:37:20 AM from Somewhere in (not)Miami
[up][up][up]In modern Western Media, there seems to be little distinction anymore. Sad, really.

[up][up]Maybe because, aside from the shows that I just referenced, there are very few shows with an Improbably Female Cast in the West. (EDIT: And I just remembered that the latter of those two at least has quite a few guys too.) Whereas the Improbably Male Cast was so ubiquitous once upon a time, that its aversion was Tropable.

edited 22nd Jun '13 7:45:27 AM by DonaldthePotholer

Do we call this or wait for more votes?

edited 7th Jul '13 3:02:21 AM by MikuruFan

36 SeptimusHeap7th Jul 2013 03:05:21 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
More votes. This sort of vote constellation (one top option with many votes, another with much less votes but far stronger consensus) is one which is very common in sudden upsets.
37 Willbyr7th Jul 2013 04:03:29 PM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Should we have a runoff crowner?
38 SeptimusHeap7th Jul 2013 04:18:25 PM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
39 Willbyr7th Jul 2013 09:19:59 PM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
[up] It's hooked.
I voted this up. No one has yet explained why there should be a teens-only subtrope of No Hugging, No Kissing. Sure, you might expect romance between teens, but you might equally well expect romance with any example in No Hugging, No Kissing - if you have no special reason to expect it, it's not an example.
41 SeptimusHeap8th Jul 2013 02:08:54 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
Well, at least (stereo-)typical teenagers are usually shown as romance-hungry things...

edited 8th Jul '13 2:27:09 AM by SeptimusHeap

Like I said, every single example of No Hugging, No Kissing is "You'd think there'd be sex and romance here, but there isn't." If the characters aren't the sort of people you'd expect to be romance hungry - children, the elderly, whatever - it's not an example.
43 Noaqiyeum8th Jul 2013 03:02:06 PM from the October Country , Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The it-thingy
I agree with Amy.
Anyone who looks dangerous is dangerous.

Anyone who doesn't look dangerous is dangerous and sneaky.
Called for merge into no hugging, kissing.

edited 14th Jul '13 11:56:45 AM by FastEddie

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty

45 SeptimusHeap14th Jul 2013 12:05:34 PM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu

Did the redirecting and tagging. Will take care of the wicks as soon as my lappie is down to a manageable temperature.

eta: Done.

edited 14th Jul '13 12:38:04 PM by SeptimusHeap

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Single Proposition: Chaste Teens Runoff
7th Jul '13 4:17:08 PM
Vote up for yes, down for no.
At issue:
This is a runoff crowner for this crowner.

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