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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#26: Jun 12th 2013 at 10:22:02 AM

Part of the reason I didn't is because it would be kind-of a subtrope of No Hugging, No Kissing anyhow.

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#27: Jun 12th 2013 at 10:30:21 AM

But editors that just look at crowners, not threads, would derive the conclusion that it will not be a subtrope of NHNK.

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#28: Jun 12th 2013 at 10:30:55 AM

The reason I like the idea of keeping it as a separate subtrope would be to have a direct opposite to Hormone-Addled Teenager. I think there's some value to that.

Though upon further thought, I suppose a perfect opposite would be more along the lines of a singular chaste teen. Is there a trope for... well, for a prude?

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#29: Jun 12th 2013 at 10:32:13 AM

It's worth noting that there is more to Hormone-Addled Teenager than being a sex- and-date hungry casanova.

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DonaldthePotholer Since: Dec, 2009
#30: Jun 22nd 2013 at 7:25:56 AM

I'm thinking that the key reason why this is a supposed Anime Trope is because of the highly sexualized nature of Teen Dramas in the West. (Not to say that there aren't highly sexualized Anime, Far from it; it's more of a commentary in absentia about the West's Opinions on the matter.)

Actually, I'm thinking that there may well be a Western Animation example: My Little Pony G1 (excepting My Little Pony Tales) and G4.

EDIT: Furthermore, if the "attractive girls" are actually "sitting around lamenting the lack of romance in their lives", then No Hugging, No Kissing is not a Super-Trope, not is its opposite Hormone-Addled Teenager. Rather, its Sister and opposite is Celibate Hero (which is about the direct refusal of a hero to get a date).

edited 22nd Jun '13 7:35:04 AM by DonaldthePotholer

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#31: Jun 22nd 2013 at 7:29:23 AM

If we keep this page, we'll need to find whether it refers to sex or romance.

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#32: Jun 22nd 2013 at 7:32:02 AM

In kids shows, this sounds like an Enforced Trope that would really be People Sit on Chairs.

The reason that it is currently anime only is that many shows have an Improbably Female Cast and not meant to sexualize its characters, something not many Western shows aimed at adults are. Though that doesn't explain the exclusion of video games. To expand to other media would make the trope lose meaning. That's why I suggested that the trope be redefined to deal with shows with Improbably Female Cast not getting involved in romance.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#33: Jun 22nd 2013 at 7:36:25 AM

Teens are not "kids" for the purposes of this, mate. And while there is no rule or reason for a teens' show to not have romance, there are reasons for teens to not have sex.

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DonaldthePotholer Since: Dec, 2009
#34: Jun 22nd 2013 at 7:37:20 AM

[up][up][up]In modern Western Media, there seems to be little distinction anymore. Sad, really.

[up][up]Maybe because, aside from the shows that I just referenced, there are very few shows with an Improbably Female Cast in the West. (EDIT: And I just remembered that the latter of those two at least has quite a few guys too.) Whereas the Improbably Male Cast was so ubiquitous once upon a time, that its aversion was Tropable.

edited 22nd Jun '13 7:45:27 AM by DonaldthePotholer

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#35: Jul 7th 2013 at 3:01:43 AM

Do we call this or wait for more votes?

edited 7th Jul '13 3:02:21 AM by MikuruFan

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#36: Jul 7th 2013 at 3:05:21 AM

More votes. This sort of vote constellation (one top option with many votes, another with much less votes but far stronger consensus) is one which is very common in sudden upsets.

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#37: Jul 7th 2013 at 4:03:29 PM

Should we have a runoff crowner?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#38: Jul 7th 2013 at 4:18:25 PM

Yes.

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AmyGdala Since: Oct, 2012
#40: Jul 8th 2013 at 2:01:04 AM

I voted this up. No one has yet explained why there should be a teens-only subtrope of No Hugging, No Kissing. Sure, you might expect romance between teens, but you might equally well expect romance with any example in No Hugging, No Kissing - if you have no special reason to expect it, it's not an example.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#41: Jul 8th 2013 at 2:08:54 AM

Well, at least (stereo-)typical teenagers are usually shown as romance-hungry things...

edited 8th Jul '13 2:27:09 AM by SeptimusHeap

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AmyGdala Since: Oct, 2012
#42: Jul 8th 2013 at 2:24:31 AM

Like I said, every single example of No Hugging, No Kissing is "You'd think there'd be sex and romance here, but there isn't." If the characters aren't the sort of people you'd expect to be romance hungry - children, the elderly, whatever - it's not an example.

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#44: Jul 14th 2013 at 11:56:09 AM

Called for merge into no hugging, kissing.

edited 14th Jul '13 11:56:45 AM by FastEddie

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#45: Jul 14th 2013 at 12:05:34 PM

Huh.

Did the redirecting and tagging. Will take care of the wicks as soon as my lappie is down to a manageable temperature.

eta: Done.

edited 14th Jul '13 12:38:04 PM by SeptimusHeap

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