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Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM

bitemytail from Arizona Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#4226: May 12th 2016 at 9:51:11 AM

Everyone Gets Their Turn has only 1 example and 9 wicks.

The page has been around for a long time though, so I have no idea if it ever went through YKTTW (or if YKTTW existed when the page was created)

Health sure is versatile. It's possible to be both light-headed and dim-witted. At the same time, no less.
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#4227: May 13th 2016 at 2:05:45 PM

I know I've discussed it somewhere, because while it's a stub to end all stubs, it's definitely a notable trope.

Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.
shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#4228: May 14th 2016 at 9:50:26 PM

Twisted Tropes is a badly written marketing blurb with no examples and a badly shrunken entire comic for an image with illegible text.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#4229: May 17th 2016 at 2:30:54 PM

Syrup is a work page stub.

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
DrNoPuma Tango from Toon Town Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: I think I love you, so what am I so afraid of?
#4230: May 19th 2016 at 4:57:25 AM

I just launched Impossible Smile Of Doom yesterday, but I can't shake the feeling that it's just The Same But More for Cheshire Cat Grin and Slasher Smile.

I haven't played the particular game that Tango is from, but still... robo kitty. :D
FuzzyBoots from Outlying borough of Pittsburgh (there's a lot of Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#4231: May 19th 2016 at 6:19:13 AM

[up][up][up] We argued a bit about this on the Webcomics side. Probably, at the least, we could start adding a list of tropes that the author has covered, although I personally don't see it as necessarily being worthwhile.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#4232: May 19th 2016 at 12:39:55 PM

[up][up] I'd personally say Cheshire Cat Grin definitely covers it.

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Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#4233: May 20th 2016 at 1:10:55 AM

Secret Girlfriend is a work page stub with only about 2 examples with sufficient context.

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#4234: May 20th 2016 at 12:33:25 PM

Bondi Band is almost nothing but zero context examples or other examples lacking sufficient context.

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#4235: May 20th 2016 at 12:45:08 PM

Also unindexed and a stub.

The only one even resembling sufficient context is The Faceless.

Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.
Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#4236: May 20th 2016 at 4:24:22 PM

Upstart Crow was created on the 17th by Last_Hussar and apart from maybe the work page description, they appear to have got nothing right about how to format a work page.

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#4237: May 21st 2016 at 3:07:53 AM

I've submitted the stubs I brought up on the last three pages to the cutlist, as they weren't improved in that time.

I've added Hindenburg Incendiary Principle and Breeding Slave to the list of Pages Needing Wicks since it looks like we're keeping those.

Agree that Impossible Smile Of Doom is The Same But More Specific of Cheshire Cat Grin.

We still need to decide what to do with Fade To Gray and It Was There the Whole Time.

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#4238: May 21st 2016 at 4:08:03 AM

Crappy Vamps Vs Werewolves Epic has major issues. Nearly the entire page is zero context, it hasn't been improved by its creators since at least 2011 (basically every edit in the history is of some other contributor cleaning up misuse), and I'm not sure if the work even exists, or at least if it is still publicly accessible.

edited 21st May '16 4:24:55 AM by Morgenthaler

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
MagBas Mag Bas from In my house Since: Jun, 2009
#4239: May 21st 2016 at 6:22:08 PM

New complaining tropes are not permitted, right? The Karmic Misfire trope is ready to be launched but, if this is the case, their sixth paragraph can be problematic:

"The Karmic Misfire trope can be the unintentional result of careless plotting. Other times, it can be due to Values Dissonance between the era and/or culture that produced the work and the present day. "

The link in "careless plotting" is to the Bad Writing Index.

edited 21st May '16 6:24:15 PM by MagBas

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#4240: May 22nd 2016 at 9:50:01 AM

[up] Correct. We do not need more complaining tropes. That paragraph can be rewritten or removed.

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MagBas Mag Bas from In my house Since: Jun, 2009
Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#4242: May 23rd 2016 at 4:44:43 AM

LPS: Popular is so badly made and has so few valid entries that I think we're better off cutting it.

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#4243: May 23rd 2016 at 2:09:34 PM

Private High Musical is a very poorly written work page with virtually no valid examples to speak of and no wicks. I doubt it would be missed.

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
TheOneWhoTropes Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty from Newton-le-willows, quaint town Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
#4244: May 23rd 2016 at 4:04:05 PM

cut, it looks like some of those "humourous" things made by supposed "fratboys" (who wouldn't know what studying was if you paid them to do it.)

But that isn't my reason (because being offensive is not a reason to cut something, except for very offensive and specific criteria), my reason is a lot of the trope list is Trope X: Character X or Trope X: Scene X. And it's so old, Hollywood Nerd has TYPES listed. No youtube link to the series, either.

edited 23rd May '16 4:08:39 PM by TheOneWhoTropes

Keeper of The Celestial Flame
Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#4245: May 27th 2016 at 3:42:18 AM

Tip Of The Iceberg has very few examples and none with enough context.

This Life is almost nothing but zces. The few exceptions are still lacking in context, except for a single "aversion".

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#4246: May 29th 2016 at 1:23:23 PM

The Path was recently created with no examples and not indexed; I've notified the creator.

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#4247: May 30th 2016 at 8:03:39 AM

Zoo Academy, created 5 days ago by akiyamatherooster, contains a one-sentence work page description, all of the Examples are formatted incorrectly and are Zero Context Examples, with some of the Examples actually being Indexes rather than tropes. The page itself is un-indexed and all of the works subpages (characters, quotes and fridge), created by the same troper, are stubs containing the letters "tba".

Monstress, created 2 days ago by lampshadeortriangle is un-indexed, contains an overlong work page description that includes spoilers above the line, and all the examples are missing their bulletpoints and are not in alphabetical order.

Josef5678 Psshhh... from Virginia Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Mu
Psshhh...
#4248: May 30th 2016 at 1:06:55 PM

GleeWeAreFamily.Glee We Are Family was a recently created work page that's in the wrong namespace, is not indexed, has no listed tropes, and the description is a Wall of Text. I'm tempted to just place this in the Cut List.

[down]Thank you.

edited 31st May '16 11:17:16 AM by Josef5678

TheOneWhoTropes Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty from Newton-le-willows, quaint town Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
#4249: May 31st 2016 at 11:12:20 AM

I've put it on, because stub works in the wrong namespace are not things we want here.

Keeper of The Celestial Flame
Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#4250: May 31st 2016 at 2:19:59 PM

Stratosphere: Conquest of the Skies is another stubby work page with only 1 valid example.

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"

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