Is this an example?

Thanks. I've read the page several times, but I've apparently missed that detail.

Re: tenses, I think that was more a goof on my part. I went through a few versions of the entry and, between that and a natural tendency to go for part tense, it looks like things got a bit jumbled. That's probably why it's worse on the second one than the first.

edited 3rd May '16 6:43:32 AM by sgamer82

Reposting these again:

YMMV.Seconds:

• They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: Considering the story's themes of accepting the consequences of one's actions and moving on, Be Careful What You Wish For, and the implication that her ex had somewhat of a dark side that never amounted to much, the protagonist being back together with him in the end comes across as slightly undermining the premise of the story.

TimeRiders:

• And I Must Scream: Chaos space. It messes up your mind if you get stuck there, tricking you into believing you have spent millenia in a place without anything to see, hear, or feel.

The other day I caught an old episode of Parks and Recreation, in which the fairly dim Andy is taking an exam for a Women's Studies Class. He has this quote:

"Usually, tests scare me, but this is an oral exam. Uh... and if there’s one thing I know is... my fantastic — it’s talk."

So, the joke is that you expect him to say "if there's one thing I know, it's oral". Is that a Stealth Pun? Last-Second Word Swap? Both? Something else?

Also, is there a trope for something that's the opposite of I Resemble That Remark!, as besides the dirty joke, part of the humor is that Andy's phrasing shows that he is poor at oral communication.

edited 3rd May '16 10:32:53 AM by Hodor2

Something else. His oral there is terrible. Yeah, I don't think the subverted punchline counts.

edited 3rd May '16 11:29:14 AM by war877

I was watching Fineas and Ferb Starwars special with my husband. We got to the part where Candice sang "In the Empire" My husband said that Fin was probably an expy of her character from the cross over. I don't know if that is the case, but the personalities and character development are similar.

...what? You mean Finn from The Force Awakens? No, that is absolutely not what an Expy is.

That reminds me. Expy has probably more shoehorned examples than legitimate ones.

edited 3rd May '16 4:03:29 PM by DeisTheAlcano

X 6. Could someone take a look at the They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot and And I Must Scream examples that I posted above.

Not gonna bother with the complaining 'trope', but the And I Must Scream one sounds like it fits.

A fresh draft of my Detective Conan entries for Children Are Innocent to fix the tense and crufty issues. The first one was mostly left alone since it seemed fine tense-wise, but I'm including it to show how it would appear on the actual trope page.

• Detective Conan:
  • Ayumi, Mitsuhiko, and Genta are three first grade children who latch themselves onto teenager-turned-child Conan Edogawa early in the story. As a result, they've been present for more than a few of the murders that occur whenever Conan is around. Despite this, they are still shown to retain their innocent and cheerful demeanors even as they try, with mixed success, to help Conan crack a case.
  • An anime-only story has a murderer attempt to exploit this trope. After encountering teenager-turned-child Ai Haibara and noticing she's more intelligent than the average seven-year-old, the would-be culprit kidnaps her, pretends to be a fellow kidnap victim alongside Ai, and manipulates their surroundings as a means of establishing an alibi for the planned murder. The culprit's intent is that Ai's intelligence would allow for a sufficiently detailed testimony whose honesty would not be questioned due to her being a child.

Also remembered another instance that may be an example. I admit this isn't the easiest trope for me to pin down. My understanding mainly boils down to it being the concept that children are, or are perceived as, inherently honest and well-meaning, and not always understanding the seriousness of what's going on around them.

• The "Yusaku Kudo's Cold Case" arc features a flashback to an old case of Conan's father's where a child's innocence is nearly mistaken for the act of a serial killer. After a man dies a bloody death, police investigating find bloody marks on the ground that resemble the Japanese kanji for death. Yusaku deduces that the death was entirely accidental. The kanji are actually the result of the sole witness to the death, a five year old boy who was raised religiously, placing some of his candy on the ground by the body in lieu of coins for a "pay for the ferryman" type of ceremony. The death kanji were formed by blood pooling around the candy in just the right way. The full nature of the incident was kept quiet to keep any stigma from attaching itself to the well meaning little boy and also results in a similar incident in the present day being correctly identified as an accident instead of a murder.

edited 3rd May '16 9:33:19 PM by sgamer82

I'm not sure the innocence of the boy is relevant there. It's a religious gesture of respect. If it was mistaken for a Calling Card, it's a subversion of that.

The rewrite looks good.

Eclectic is called a neutral temperament of Four-Temperament Ensemble on top of the four. Does this "fifth humour" really count for examples?

Would Hermaphrodites that impregnate each other qualify as Justified Trope examples of Homosexual Reproduction?

edited 4th May '16 3:35:00 AM by MarqFJA

No, because Tropes Are Not Bad. That would be a straight example.

Would any of the non-human species in World Of Warcraft count as Bizarre Sexual Dimorphism? There are some obvious difference between the sexes but I that trope was for more extreme cases.

I don't think any Warcraft races fit that trope. Just among the playable races the only one that seems like it'd even come close are the Draenei, but that's at most a size difference to my eyes.

... Is that aimed at me, or at the poster above me?

At you.

You mean, a bisexual example?

In which case, I'm afraid that your reply makes no sense to me. Where did I ever imply that any of the tropes I mentioned were bad?

Doesn't fit the trope anyway. Hermadrophites have both sexes and can impregnant each other because they can fulfil both ends of opposite-sex reproduction - not same-sex reproduction. Real-life example: earthworms.

Justified examples would involve, say, reproductive magic. Or technology to turns someone's egg into a sperm, or vice versa.

edited 5th May '16 4:00:22 AM by hellomoto

So hermaphrodites can't qualify as a sex of their own?

edited 5th May '16 4:18:53 AM by MarqFJA

It fits the trope. By default, tropes can't be justified because tropes are not wrong. And this happens all the time. The only exception is tropes that are physically impossible. Such things can be justified by the setting. This is a trope that is not physically impossible.

edited 5th May '16 5:20:49 AM by war877