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NoirGrimoir Rabid Fujoshi from San Diego, CA Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#1: Aug 18th 2012 at 1:59:18 AM

Politeness Judo seems to be being mistaken for Passive-Aggressive Kombat. Honestly, I'm pretty sure it's the name.

Politeness Judo: Supposed to be about when you get your way by taking advantage of automatic social responses.

What people seem to be using it for (for some reason MOSTLY on other Trope Articles) is...

Passive-Aggressive Kombat: When characters have banter and insult each other through dialogue that on the surface appears polite.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#2: Aug 18th 2012 at 2:44:06 AM

Got a wick check to back that up?

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NoirGrimoir Rabid Fujoshi from San Diego, CA Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#3: Aug 18th 2012 at 3:58:05 PM

I just did 20. 8 correct, 5 unsure, 7 misused.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#4: Aug 18th 2012 at 5:42:21 PM

For 20 wicks, I kinda think the result is inconclusive, but it does hint at something being wrong.

I'd have guessed a correct use on the Characters.Freezing example. She can use both this and the silent and smiling kind of intimidation I think some of the misuse stand for.

By the way, do we have a trope for that?

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abk0100 Since: Aug, 2011
#5: Aug 19th 2012 at 8:18:53 AM

I think whoever picked this name misunderstood the Judo metaphor.

  • Verbal Judo is about stopping an attack just using words.
  • Door Judo is about a turning someone's attack against them just by opening a door.
  • Rage Judo is about intercepting an attack and deflecting it away from you.

They're all metaphors for Judo, or at least the pop-culture interpretation of Judo - a weak fighter being able to defeat stronger fighters by deflecting his attacks and using their own strength against them. This sounds more like a Politeness Sneak Attack or something.

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#6: Aug 19th 2012 at 8:51:31 AM

Eh, as a metaphor, I think it works. Using politeness to get your opponent to where you want him to be, by his own force.

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NoirGrimoir Rabid Fujoshi from San Diego, CA Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#7: Aug 19th 2012 at 10:45:44 PM

I think the main issue is that it's sort of vague. When you hear "Politeness Judo", you think being able to spare by being polite, which could really incorporate a number of things, including what Passive-Aggressive Kombat is. It's just not quite specific enough, in my opinion.

Also there was another misuse on Gentleman Wizard before I fixed it, which lead me to seeing there might be an issue here, after noticing it a few other places as well and I realized it wasn't an isolated incident.

edited 19th Aug '12 10:53:37 PM by NoirGrimoir

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#8: Oct 31st 2012 at 12:53:27 PM

Clocking.

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#9: Nov 3rd 2012 at 11:54:51 PM

Clock is up.

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