Real Life section maintenance (New Crowner 2th July 2015):

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This is the thread to report tropes with problematic Real Life sections.

Common problems include:

Real Life sections on the wiki are kept as long as they don't become a problem. If you find an article with such problems, report it here. If it's really bad, the entire section may have to be removed. But hey, if someone feels like cleaning it up, it might be saved.

If you think an article should be filed under No Real Life Examples, Please!, then this thread is the place to discuss it. State the reasons and add it to the crowner.

edited 10th Nov '14 7:30:06 AM by SeptimusHeap

1 lu12721st Apr 2012 01:03:17 PM from 七夜 , Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
This is the thread to report tropes with problematic Real Life sections.

Common problems include:

Real Life sections on the wiki are kept as long as they don't become a problem. If you find an article with such problems, report it here. If it's really bad, the entire section may have to be removed. But hey, if someone feels like cleaning it up, it might be saved.

If you think an article should be filed under No Real Life Examples, Please!, then this thread is the place to discuss it. State the reasons and add it to the crowner.

edited 10th Nov '14 7:30:06 AM by SeptimusHeap

2 SeptimusHeap21st Apr 2012 01:04:04 PM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
[up]Conversation in the Main Page is already dealt with in the NATTER ALERT thread, but the rest is OK here.
3 HersheleOstropoler21st Apr 2012 01:40:30 PM from BK.NY.US , Relationship Status: Less than three
You gotta get yourself some marble columns
I brought these up in Ask The Tropers, but Ambiguously Jewish and Ambiguously Gay. Not too squicky aside from the loaded word "suspected" in a few spots, but they're objective tropes of which "author dropping subtle hints" is an intrinsic element, and that doesn't happen in real life.
The child is father to the manOedipus
I vote the kill Real Life examples on Ambiguously Gay. TV Tropes is not a gossip column and it is not our place to speculate about the sexuality of Real Life people.

We Will Have Euthanasia in the Future shouldn't have real life examples if you ask me. It's quite the controversial topic and talks about the future, not about the current situation.
Quid autem coelo pulchrius, nempe quod continet pulchra omnia?
Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk
Agree with [up] and [up][up].
It does not matter who I am. What matters is, who will you become? - motto of Omsk Bird
Cure Candy
Insufferable Genius.... calling a real person insufferable is really too much.
In uffish thought
[up] Agreed. That section also has really bad indentation and some natter problems.
Seeking for Light
I agree with cutting all the real life sections of the pages mentioned so far. The Ambiguously X tropes and We Will Have Euthanasia in the Future by definition can't appear in real life (as mentioned by others earlier), and Insufferable Genius is rather negative.
So how do we come to an official decision on this tread? Mass crowner? Or wait for a mod to come along and make an official declaration?
In uffish thought
Probably a crowner like on the YMMV tropes thread and the the Trivia tropes thread, but either get a mod to call it or have a ratio bar when we can call it, though that may well need to be higher than the one on the Trivia crowner.

[down] I know, but "calling" is the term used in both threads I linked above, so...

edited 22nd Apr '12 11:58:08 AM by Telcontar

12 SeptimusHeap22nd Apr 2012 11:52:39 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
[up]These crowners have to be called by individual tropers, by striking out the items that have consensus. No way regular closure can be done here, since we would need a crowner for each item under discussion [/didactic]

edited 22nd Apr '12 11:53:18 AM by SeptimusHeap

13 Willbyr22nd Apr 2012 02:06:30 PM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
With Mod Hat On
Starting the crowner. If it gets too unwieldy, we can limit the size to, say, 10 or 15 pages and make new crowners as we go.

edited 22nd Apr '12 2:06:44 PM by Willbyr

14 SeptimusHeap22nd Apr 2012 02:08:03 PM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
[up][up][up]You only need a moderator to close a crowner, but it usually happens along with calling.

These crowners can't be called by moderators, since they vote on many things at once and you can't close just one item.
Definitely not a weirdo
I'm adding Sissy Villain to the list. It's got problems beyond the whole we don't like to call real people villains thing.
16 Deboss23rd Apr 2012 12:41:00 AM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
As a general rule of thumb, I'd like to suggest:

Characterization Tropes

Future Tropes (what with not happening and all)

Morality Tropes

edited 23rd Apr '12 12:41:13 AM by Deboss

17 HersheleOstropoler23rd Apr 2012 08:41:24 AM from BK.NY.US , Relationship Status: Less than three
You gotta get yourself some marble columns
I don't like the idea of adding indices wholesale, but I agree that the Characterization Tropes probably need to be handled carefully in real life. They're particularly prone to the "objective in fiction, subjective in reality" issue, and/or are PSOC in real life.

edited 23rd Apr '12 8:42:23 AM by HersheleOstropoler

The child is father to the manOedipus
18 lu12723rd Apr 2012 08:46:42 AM from 七夜 , Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
No, please don't add whole indices in the crowner. It will just get messy.
19 SeptimusHeap23rd Apr 2012 08:48:48 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
Given that such continuous crowners like the YMMV and Trivia one work by a consensus + 10 votes rule, can we apply it here and cut sections according to this rule?
Seeking for Light
Wait, is this crowner just for removing real life examples, or is it for removing real life examples and applying No Real Life Examples, Please!?
21 SeptimusHeap23rd Apr 2012 09:16:39 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
[up]I think for the latter. Real Life examples usually go as soon as they become a problem. No Real Life Examples, Please! is what this crowner is for.
22 Michael23rd Apr 2012 04:24:33 PM , Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
So that's what this does
I've added I Resemble That Remark because it looks like it's asking for trouble.
Balance - the original sixth sense.
23 HersheleOstropoler23rd Apr 2012 04:37:05 PM from BK.NY.US , Relationship Status: Less than three
You gotta get yourself some marble columns
Can I Resemble That Remark be cleaned and kept?
The child is father to the manOedipus
Definitely not a weirdo
[up]Unlike some of the others here, that one is pretty objective, but, that being said, it seems to attract examples that can be controversial. My advice is that if you want it cleaned and kept, go ahead and clean it now, then watchlist it, so that you can keep it clean. If you can keep it from becoming a problem again, then I see no reason not to keep it.
25 HersheleOstropoler23rd Apr 2012 05:55:04 PM from BK.NY.US , Relationship Status: Less than three
You gotta get yourself some marble columns
I never said I was volunteeringtongue

But yeah, I'll clean it, and then give it a couple of days. If it can't be cleaned/kept clean, I'll come back here and say so.
The child is father to the manOedipus

Page Action: Real Life Section Maintenance 34
1st Jul '15 3:22:13 PM
What would be the best way to fix the page?
At issue:
These are pages that have been proposed to have their Real Life sections cut and tagged to not be recreated.

Vote UP to indicate you think the Page should have NO Real Life examples.

Vote DOWN to allow Real Life examples.

Items that have been stricken (like so) have already been decided, with ten or more total votes, more than 48 hours on the crowner, and are stable with at least a 2:1 yes/no ratio. No further voting is needed on those items.

To check if something has already been voted on, please see Keep Real Life Examples.

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