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Edited by SeptimusHeap on Sep 10th 2022 at 11:50:32 AM

Pyrite Until further notice from Right. Beneath. You. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Hiding
Until further notice
#11526: Jan 18th 2015 at 8:22:56 PM

I do remember that P5 has had to make decisions on a few cases where physical age and mental age didn't match up. Those were rather contentious.

...Alright, guys, can I take your drink order?

Not a substitute for a formal medical consultation.
tdgoodrich1 R.I.P 2 My Youth from Atlanta Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Californicating
R.I.P 2 My Youth
#11527: Jan 18th 2015 at 8:34:57 PM

Scotch on the rocks, Talisker 10 Year if you have it.

Kidding aside, took a look through the Niels archive, and saw nothing that would warrant a cut. Should be able to look through some of the various manga flagged in the near future.

"Polite life will fill you full of cancer." - Iggy Pop "I've seen the future, brother, it is murder." -Leonard Cohen
shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
#11528: Jan 18th 2015 at 8:49:21 PM

I have no idea what fic it being talked about so, so here's the key question:

Are you saying that you consider the characters as they're depicted on the show to act to young, or does the fic itself portray characters as acting infantile and state that fact?

Adannor Since: May, 2010
#11529: Jan 19th 2015 at 7:28:43 AM

No, what Abstract Indigo is saying about the fanfic they flagged is that, in the fanfic, while the ponies are depicted as sentient (i.e. as in the show), the humans are depicted with animal intelligence.

Basically, it's using ponies to portray beastiality analogous to reality but with reversed roles.

They're not mentioning any children involved, pedophilia is only brought up on a question of hard the policy is against beastiality (i.e. is it as hard-line as pedo or is it working on more lax porn/nonporn rules)

edited 19th Jan '15 7:41:48 AM by Adannor

tdgoodrich1 R.I.P 2 My Youth from Atlanta Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Californicating
R.I.P 2 My Youth
#11530: Jan 19th 2015 at 7:33:33 AM

Looked over a bit of Hybrid Child, didn't see anything to justify the flag reason, especially an all-caps hyperbole. Only a brief fade-to-black or two between adults (albeit with the typical Seme/Uke thing with one being younger looking going on)

"Polite life will fill you full of cancer." - Iggy Pop "I've seen the future, brother, it is murder." -Leonard Cohen
shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
#11531: Jan 19th 2015 at 4:37:33 PM

[up][up]Okay, yeah.

That sounds really skeevy now that I fully understand the content and I don't think that has a place on this wiki.

[up]I still remember when someone flagged Sailor Moon(a kid's show) of all things. It's amazing how over-zealous the local prudes can get with the reporting system.

edited 19th Jan '15 4:44:03 PM by shoboni

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#11532: Jan 19th 2015 at 5:28:51 PM

There were also people flagging random stuff to make a point of not liking the P rules.

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Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Sorcerer in training
#11533: Jan 19th 2015 at 5:53:57 PM

Take a look through the edit banned/suspended thread posts from that time. Very educational in how some people can get when something they don't like is happening -even if it's for the overall health of the wiki.

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#11534: Jan 19th 2015 at 7:59:06 PM

@shoboni: The first Sailor Moon flag was made, as I recall, in a time when we were still figuring out the rules and people were essentially flagging works all over the place because they didn't know what was and was not going to fly.

shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
#11535: Jan 19th 2015 at 8:33:58 PM

It was actually made pretty late in(and a show that's PG-13 at the highest and marketed to kids is pretty obviously not up for cut-listing)

Pyrite Until further notice from Right. Beneath. You. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Hiding
Until further notice
#11536: Jan 19th 2015 at 8:47:00 PM

Whatever the case may be, it's water under the bridge now, and I'd like to think that the panel's accrued enough experience to make the right call in most cases.

Not a substitute for a formal medical consultation.
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#11537: Jan 20th 2015 at 3:07:19 AM

That's true, but you still get the occassional dumbass who makes stupid flags either out of mule-headed prudishness or to actually denigrate the P5 policy. The Council could do well without such distractions, however minor they are.

edited 20th Jan '15 3:07:53 AM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Sabbo from Australia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#11538: Jan 20th 2015 at 4:39:11 AM

Don't forget how we used to get lots of reports based on the quality of the article rather than the suitability of the work.

shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
#11539: Jan 20th 2015 at 12:44:05 PM

I remember when Cupcakes was in the tubes for ages even though it's pretty standard horror/creepypasta-style grimdark like Hostel or Saw because someone called it Torture Porn on the report.

LargoQuagmire Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#11540: Jan 20th 2015 at 8:56:28 PM

Caligula really should have a page, considering A Serbian Film is more graphic/offensive, yet has a locked stub because of its notoriety. Also it has about three edited versions and a fascinating Troubled Production that's worth documenting here.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#11541: Feb 4th 2015 at 2:16:30 AM

For what it's worth, a recap of the things up for vote:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
tdgoodrich1 R.I.P 2 My Youth from Atlanta Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Californicating
R.I.P 2 My Youth
#11542: Feb 13th 2015 at 5:59:34 PM

New work: Guro Idol. What should we know and all that?

"Polite life will fill you full of cancer." - Iggy Pop "I've seen the future, brother, it is murder." -Leonard Cohen
Assassin-sensei Kukuku from Earth Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Kukuku
#11543: Feb 13th 2015 at 6:23:58 PM

Just based off the Archive of Our Own info:

Rating: Explicit

Archive Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Major Character Death, Rape/Non-Con, Underage

Additional Tags: Gore, Guro, Rape, Underage Sex, Exhibitionism, Amputation, Death, Gender Dysphoria, Crossdressing, Lace Panties, Mental Instability, Intersex, Forced Abortion, Infant Death, Hard vore, Melting, Burning, Branding, Tattoos, Piercings, Food Play, seppuku, Death Rituals, Execution, Child Death, Pedophilia, Transphobia, Misogyny, Homophobia, Ableism, Asphyxiation, Drowning, Electrocution, Masochism, Sadism, Poisoning, Starvation, Vomiting, Non-Consensual Oral Sex, Pregnant Sex, Wood Chipper

Does this even need a discussion? I feel like I need a shower after copypasting all of that.

edited 13th Feb '15 6:25:11 PM by Assassin-sensei

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#11544: Feb 13th 2015 at 6:27:48 PM

Is this one of those times when it's easier to count what isn't there?

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tdgoodrich1 R.I.P 2 My Youth from Atlanta Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Californicating
R.I.P 2 My Youth
#11545: Feb 13th 2015 at 6:45:22 PM

Lace panties. That's it. It's getting the ax.

"Polite life will fill you full of cancer." - Iggy Pop "I've seen the future, brother, it is murder." -Leonard Cohen
Adannor Since: May, 2010
#11546: Feb 13th 2015 at 7:45:42 PM

Currently there are only 5 chapters out, however, many more on the way.
Wow doesn't that sound ominously threatening.

Pyrite Until further notice from Right. Beneath. You. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Hiding
Until further notice
#11547: Feb 13th 2015 at 8:25:01 PM

Choose your punchline:

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Adannor Since: May, 2010
#11548: Feb 13th 2015 at 8:31:11 PM

I'm picking number 2, and also "could be about 20% coolercrazier"

edited 13th Feb '15 8:35:14 PM by Adannor

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
#11549: Feb 13th 2015 at 8:46:20 PM

The plot, from reading the trope page, sound like someone tried to merge Mai-Chan's Daily Life and The Idolmaster...put it down.

Adannor Since: May, 2010
#11550: Feb 13th 2015 at 8:51:28 PM

Funnily enough up until that fifth chapter it barely had anything objectionable at all.


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