The Place for Purging Porn and Pedo-Pandering (AKA P5 flag evaluations)

Chunin Exam Day is a piece of crap, but not porn. However, who knows what other nonsense could be in there? I know Naruto gets every woman. For some reason.

Naruto gets every woman because he is very good at massage. All he has to do is give people massages and they fall in love with him.

It's up to the reader to determine if Massage is a euphemism or not

edited 10th Aug '12 6:17:34 PM by NineThePuma

So... Chunin Exam Day isn't porn nor pedobait; it's just stupid as hell?

Time Braid and Chunin Exam Day are both potentially Pedobait depending on the following point:

Does a character who grows and matures during a time loop count as growing and maturing for the purposes of Effective Age For Romance Viability. Or something.

The viewpoint characters in both (supposedly, in the case of C.E.D.) mature mentally over the course of the fic, but remain 12-13 in terms of legal stuff (though they're also legally adults, soooo). Having been unable to read more than the first 12 paragraphs of C.E.D. I can't comment on it, but Time Braid, at least, has way more focus on overall plot and character development than on the romance; even if it actually included a few sex scenes, I would stand here and argue that it should be kept.

(Also, Chunin Exam Day has a big Love It or Hate It thing going on; even the people that love it more love it for some of the ideas (which could be refined in other fics) than they love it for the writing)

edited 10th Aug '12 6:30:22 PM by NineThePuma

I thought we condemned depiction of actual sexual contact involving minors, rather than depiction of romance involving minors that only hints at involving sexual contact, if any.

edited 10th Aug '12 6:41:26 PM by MarqFJA

Sounds like some pretty hefty implications are involved, but nothing extremely cutworthy. At the same time, it's hard to call if it deserves a page anyways.

Yeah, if it's leaving the sex scenes up to the readers imaginations, it's probably on the safe side of borderline. It really depends on how explicit the sex scenes get.

eta: After reading through a few more of them, I think it's pretty safe to say that enough of the works of Shintaro Kago are not primarily porn to keep the creator page. The ones I've read are just incredibly bizarre and seem intended to illicit a "WHAT the FUCK?!?" reaction (Aborted fetus flower arrangement competitions? Really?).

I'm going to give the creator page an angel. If any of the individual works of his wind up violating the content policy down the road, we can deal with them one work at a time.

edited 10th Aug '12 8:04:43 PM by Meeble

Sorry for the double-post, but is my understanding correct that those voting to keep Marquis De Sade wish to also have the trope list removed?

That was my provision, yes.

Eh, I can roll with that.

Ok, resolved Creator.Marquis De Sade with a disposition of "Remove trope list and lock".

Shortbus has also been resolved to keep. So the only things close to done now are Linburger and Hadaka Shitsuji with 2 devil votes.

Tropes chainsawed. Where do we put in requests for locking a page?

Edit: NVM, found it.

edited 10th Aug '12 8:43:29 PM by tdgoodrich1

Webcomic.Linburger seems to be heavy enough on the porn to merit a cut, based on the strips I've reviewed thus far. Adding the third devil head.

We're down to 29 items, none of which have two votes one way or the other.

So let's just start from the top down: Literature.Paladin Of Shadows. Written by John Ringo, a mainstream author, but apparently an Old Shame. Any other information available?

Yes. I am sure there are postlinks there. I looked through a wiki of them and didn't find any sex or kids there.

No, Paladin of Shadows isn't really Old Shame material, at least as I understand OS.

Anyway, it's come up before, most recently in my post here and Catbert's follow-on post, where he quotes Ringo's comment on the series (in a response to the Live Journal entry that spawned "OH JOHN RINGO NO").

edited 11th Aug '12 4:12:55 PM by Nohbody

Based on those comments, I'll give it a provisional Angel. If something comes up that would require us to take a second look, we'll deal with it then.

Also giving Manga.I Dream Of Mimi an Angel. It's ecchi, but not nearly explicit enough to be considered porn based on the volumes I read.

edited 11th Aug '12 4:40:10 PM by Meeble

I gave I Dream of Mimi the third angelhead. It isn't porn.

edited 11th Aug '12 4:42:26 PM by Komodin

Gave Paladin Of Shadows third angel based on Septimus's comments.

Demonbane has a clean(ish) anime and clean VN releases, so it's probably safe to keep if we restrict to clean versions.

edited 11th Aug '12 6:47:01 PM by tdgoodrich1

It has some light novels too, I posted them a while back.

For Time Braid, it's also worth noting that several of the theoretically-younger characters use an age-up transformation fairly regularly. Since these are people who are also older in mind due to looping, I'd judge it to make some of those segments not a problem at all. And nothing sexual ever gets too detailed. (That's saved for the violence.)

Chunin Exam Day, as I recall, consistently fades to black before anything sexual happens.

Are there any questions that still have be resolved about Anime.Ultimate Girls?

For starters, it clearly isn't porn.

The Other Wiki give the target demographic of the manga version as being shounen.

It is fanservice heavy, but apparently the girls are all teens, in a work target toward teens. Is there really anything worse than any other "bog-standard" ecchi shounen series like Negima?

EDIT PS: I'm watching Retarded Animal Babies, and it is pretty obvious that whatever else it is, it is not pedopandering.

The characters are pretty typical high pitched voice Funny Animals, but nothing about them other than the title indicates that they are children or have any features that would appeal in the slightest to a pedophile.

Also, I really don't think it is pornographic. For starters, the vast majority of the scenes is not people (or animals) engaging in sexual acts. What sexual content there is is crudely drawn and vulgarly presented, and does not seem to me at all like something intended to titillate.

I'd would judge this series to be more along the lines of a slightly less censored South Park in terms of the content and intent. Not something that violates our standards.

edited 12th Aug '12 9:08:19 AM by Catbert

... Somebody flagged Anime.Ultimate Girls?

Probably because the trope page mentioned that one of the girls is called (in-universe) "Loli" by the announcer. Plus, it's apparently very Ecchi. Shouldn't be too hard to investigate, but it's getting late over here and I need my sleep.

edited 12th Aug '12 9:30:53 AM by Pyrite