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pagad Sneering Imperialist from perfidious Albion Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#51: Sep 1st 2011 at 4:14:14 PM

Who says? There's a difference between observing a genre and being in a genre. Playing a game gives you game mechanics. Being in a game would make you a normal person in that setting. No game mechanics for you. The same should apply to all other mediums, for this thread, I should think. I mean, otherwise, we're just Sueing ourselves, and it's no fun at all. Meaningful conflict is the soul of life.

Not entirely sure what you're getting at, here. If we're throwing out the genre conventions, then Genre Savvy or not you're going to stand as much a chance of being eaten by the gribbly monster as having your spaceship blown away from under your feet.

With cannon shot and gun blast smash the alien. With laser beam and searing plasma scatter the alien to the stars.
SavageHeathen Pro-Freedom Fanatic from Somewhere Since: Feb, 2011
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#52: Sep 1st 2011 at 4:23:54 PM

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People would survive most horror movies if they remembered two things: Reach is everythin (you don't want the monster to grab you), so get a polearm-like object. Second thing: Avoid any and all things that put the group at risk of an ambush.

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#53: Sep 1st 2011 at 4:39:53 PM

Space Opera. Maybe.

Actually, I'd kind of like to have my own Sitcom.

joyflower Since: Dec, 1969
#54: Sep 1st 2011 at 4:42:16 PM

Tomu@If you have your own sitcom I am joining you as your next door neighbor who you have a Foe Yay with.

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#55: Sep 1st 2011 at 4:46:27 PM

I don't think so Joy. You don't have enough of a confrontational attitude. If there was to be any foeyay, it'd probably be with Major Tom. Which actually works really well, since

A.) We're both named Tom and

B.) I tend not to get along with other people named Tom.

Of course, the Foe Yay element would also imply Ho Yay but hey, whatever cranks up those ratings!

My Sitcom would probably be some kind of cross between The Big Bang Theory and Fraiser.

joyflower Since: Dec, 1969
#56: Sep 1st 2011 at 4:51:26 PM

Tomu@I was thinking consevative,sassy black woman neighbor who harbors a sorta of a crush on you despite the fact you are liberal.*Blush*tongue

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#57: Sep 1st 2011 at 4:52:31 PM

Well, that's understandable-after all, I do have a million hit points and maximum charisma!

USAF713 I changed accounts. from the United States Since: Sep, 2010
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#58: Sep 1st 2011 at 4:53:26 PM

Pagad, I'm not talking about genre conventions, I'm talking about meta-standards.

In Space Opera, a spaceship is going to be either boxy (human) or shiny and streamlined (aliens, or, Star Trek). Plot Armor is not a genre convention, it is an authorial tool to make things simple and cheat reality. We're making the genre reality here, so there is no Plot Armor...

Tomu scores for the win. [lol]

edited 1st Sep '11 4:54:30 PM by USAF713

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pagad Sneering Imperialist from perfidious Albion Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#59: Sep 1st 2011 at 5:00:20 PM

I meant that the obvious hero of the piece, whether horror or space opera, is identified as such by genre conventions.

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#60: Sep 1st 2011 at 5:01:38 PM

And Plot Armor is not a genre convention. It is a universal idea for fiction. We're talking about making fiction reality.

Plus, who said you'd be the hero of the plot? You're in the genre—which is basically a setting. Nobody said the eventual plot, if any, would revolve around you. wink

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
pagad Sneering Imperialist from perfidious Albion Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#62: Sep 1st 2011 at 5:09:50 PM

And Plot Armor is not a genre convention. It is a universal idea for fiction. We're talking about making fiction reality.

Not saying it is, but it's genre conventions that give characters Plot Armour in the first place.

Nobody said the eventual plot, if any, would revolve around you.

Well, quite, but I imagine that those who want to be in a horror piece are envisioning themselves as the lead rather than an expendable redshirt bumped off in the first half hour. tongue

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USAF713 I changed accounts. from the United States Since: Sep, 2010
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#63: Sep 1st 2011 at 5:28:26 PM

No, it's the narrative that gives a character Plot Armor. Remember, reality doesn't make such distinctions, and this is a fiction-as-reality exercise.

Also, why not? Perhaps you could defy Standard Redshirt Procedure. Conventions are guidelines, not rules. tongue

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Tongpu Since: Jan, 2001
#64: Sep 1st 2011 at 7:53:21 PM

I have no idea why more people aren't picking the genre that would allow them to hop into a spacecraft that breaks the laws of physics and go zooming around the galaxy.
I don't even like traveling more than a few miles, so traveling light years wouldn't appeal to me at all. Plus I don't like the blackness of outer space, and I don't like dealing with unfamiliar places or people.

I'd prefer to be in a Sitcom, where there's more routine, and less physical conflict, and I can be an uptight, cynical Jerkass and nobody will care about my lack of Character Development because they'll be used to things always being the same. I'd opt for a Work Com or some other variety of sitcom where the characters are acquaintances with no apparent family members in the main cast.

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#65: Sep 1st 2011 at 7:55:38 PM

Tongpu would definitely be a rival character to me in my sitcom ;P

Tongpu Since: Jan, 2001
#66: Sep 1st 2011 at 8:01:34 PM

No, I would not be in the same setting as any of you.

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Tongpu Since: Jan, 2001
#68: Sep 1st 2011 at 8:27:07 PM

I meant that the obvious hero of the piece, whether horror or space opera, is identified as such by genre conventions.
I think what USAF may be getting at is that there is no "piece". There's just a world— a wide open sandbox that happens to fit into a given genre, rather than a single main storyline.

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Galeros Slay foes with bow and arrow Since: Jan, 2001
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#70: Sep 1st 2011 at 8:33:49 PM

As an alternative to Horror, some kind of High Fantasy world composed entirely out of floating continents.

Carbonek13 Student Eternal from the Deep South Since: Jan, 2001
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#71: Sep 1st 2011 at 10:11:53 PM

An Unmasqued World Urban Fantasy, heavy on the Friendly Neighborhood Vampires, light on the terrors from beyond human comprehension. Preferably with magic powers for everybody.

Or a Pulp Two-Fisted Tales Diesel Punk / Raygun Gothic Super Hero Retro Universe, where old-school heroics and daring-do can make a difference, closer to the Silver Age wackiness than this Darker and Edgier crap in comics today, mostly to see how Troperiffic life would be.

I'd accept a Space Opera if we were advanced enough to actually make it to other worlds in less than a generation, or if the physics were closer to the softer side (Space Is Big and all that).

...I guess I'm just not a fan of any laws of physics, huh?

edited 1st Sep '11 10:22:28 PM by Carbonek13

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USAF713 I changed accounts. from the United States Since: Sep, 2010
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#72: Sep 2nd 2011 at 2:11:22 PM

I think what USAF may be getting at is that there is no "piece". There's just a world— a wide open sandbox that happens to fit into a given genre, rather than a single main storyline.

Yes. It's a genre, not a plot. There is no single storyline, there is whatever happens in the setting. And nobody is going to be the "main character" of reality all the time, except for a very technical, subjective value of "main character" and "reality" that is irrelevant in the large scale.

You might have adventures, surely. But the setting won't revolve around you.

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#73: Sep 2nd 2011 at 2:20:15 PM

If it doesn't revolve around someone, then it's not a sitcom ;P

In other words, your definition of living in that genre is meaningless :P

USAF713 I changed accounts. from the United States Since: Sep, 2010
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#74: Sep 2nd 2011 at 2:22:41 PM

A sitcom is basically life, but funnier. So, from your perspective, the plot revolves around you, because there is no plot. It is simply life... but more dramatic.

I did note that whole "subjective reality" thing to be present...

But, a sitcom doesn't happen in a vacuum. There is a whole world out there. The Law Of Conservationof Detail just says that we don't get to see it. Imagine a whole world, where everyone has a "plot" that revolves around their lives, and you're limited only to your own because it's now reality.

This is a fun thought experiment, remember. wink

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#75: Sep 2nd 2011 at 2:27:16 PM

Sitcoms are an experience of solipsism.


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