Redirect Farming: Most Common Super Power

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26 Deboss13th Jul 2011 10:00:09 AM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
Breasts Of Might? No, that sounds too much like Boobs of Steel. Hmmmmm. Perhaps something related to Heroic Build? Heroic Chest? Heroic Breasts?
Just so that I understand, what's the basis of wanting to change again?

edited 13th Jul '11 11:16:58 AM by KingZeal

28 32_Footsteps13th Jul 2011 11:28:55 AM from Just north of Arkham , Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Think of the mooks!
[up]The argument is that it's a Non-Indicative Name - the most commonly named super powers are probably Super Strength, Flight, Super Speed, Nigh Invulnerable, or Pure Energy. Large breasts are seldom actually mentioned as a super power, even though large breasts do seem to be the most common one amongst female supers.

edited 13th Jul '11 11:29:41 AM by 32_Footsteps

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[up][up][up] What about female villains then?
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Super Boobs is funny, but maybe Super Busty?
31 32_Footsteps13th Jul 2011 12:48:58 PM from Just north of Arkham , Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Think of the mooks!
@29 That's a great point. Even though the trope image and most of the citations are for heroes, female supers are just as prone to this trope. For example, off the top of my head, Domino, Lady Deathstrike, Emma Frost, and Mystique from the X-Men titles, Star Sapphire from Green Lantern, Giganta from Wonder Woman, Poison Ivy from Batman, and Typhoid Mary from Daredevil.

And that's even putting aside the fact that the title Heroic Breasts would just suggest "large breasts on a heroic character" regardless of whether or not super powers were in play, which would be serious Trope Decay.

In short, I'd avoid using "heroic" in a rename, and favor "super" staying in there.
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32 Xtifr13th Jul 2011 01:51:36 PM , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
Isn't there a project going on to rename most breast-related tropes to use "Buxom"? How about Superpower Of Buxom? (I have to confess that I really like the current name, though, despite its issues.)

"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
33 Madrugada13th Jul 2011 03:22:11 PM , Relationship Status: In season
No, there isn't. And "buxom" is an adjective, not a noun. You don't "have buxom", you "are buxom".
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34 Xtifr13th Jul 2011 03:28:08 PM , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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Yes, I know, but Buxomness seemed awkward, so I exercised {{Artistic License - English}}. :)
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
35 32_Footsteps13th Jul 2011 03:53:27 PM from Just north of Arkham , Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Think of the mooks!
I'm assuming we're going to keep this trope name a noun, correct?
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36 Deboss13th Jul 2011 04:25:14 PM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
I'm personally okay with keeping it as the main name if we haven't changed our "pre-existing term" guideline.
37 GameGuruGG13th Jul 2011 05:29:09 PM from Castlevania , Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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I thought the reason that this trope has that name is because of the innuendo nature of the name playing on the fact that nearly every superheroine has them.

edited 13th Jul '11 5:30:29 PM by GameGuruGG

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Just so that I understand, what's the basis of wanting to change again?

The problem is this is now limited to the Western Superhero Genre. "Superpower" is far far far more broad we have Stock Super Powers for a reason (other people do exist). A Ninja in a manga who has all the Stock Ninja Super Powers and wears This to battle playing the role of a "hero unit", can not be an example under the way its defined. Hence the cleanup that's going on.

One thing though people have defined this like 5 different ways in the thread and the other one which ones are the trope though?

  • There are no pettanko superheroes.
  • No superheroes under a D cup.
  • The outfit.
  • Never any hint of sag (gravity defying)
  • Despite the absence of a Breast Plate the boobs never move, no Gainixing no nothing they are plastered there.
(There are probably a few more that came up here that I am missing.)

edited 13th Jul '11 9:02:32 PM by Raso

39 MousaThe1413th Jul 2011 09:05:18 PM from Northern Virginia , Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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* There are no pettanko superheroes/villains.
  • No superheroes/villains under a D cup.
  • Never any hint of sag (gravity defying)

It boils down to this and

The outfit.

That was from the origin of the quote but not actually the trope itself.

The problem is this is now limited to the Western Superhero Genre.
Don't try to pretend this was ever meant to be about anything else from the beginning.

edited 13th Jul '11 9:05:56 PM by MousaThe14

Eh. I'm still not seeing why it needs to changed upon those grounds.

Even if it's most common in western stories, it's still prevalent everywhere else. Iria: Zeiram The Animation, Bleach, Fairy Tail, Devil May Cry, Street Fighter, etc, etc.

The general idea I got from this trope was that Power Girl's physique is every bit as unnatural as her ability to lift 40-ton objects without them breaking. It's a superpower that doesn't get mentioned (for obvious reasons), but it highlights the improbable and whimsical nature of the genre.

Frankly, if you're going to rename it for that reason, why not just get rid of it in the first place? We already have boob tropes and body type tropes.
[up] No, why would we make an unfounded assumption like that? First of all Power Girl's physique isn't unnatural nor constant for that matter. Some issues she's drawn like a bodybuilder and some she's drawn like a bikini model.

Also, the point of the trope is that superheroines/villainesses in the western superhero genre almost always have big breasts. This trope is dealing with the genre as a whole not specific examples. The works you mentioned are in genres where superpowered females have a diverse range of bust.
The entire basis for the trope comes from a Calvin and Hobbes quote about how every superheroine can fit into a skintight outfit despite having ridiculous proportions.

And the things I listed have more diversity than comics? Really?

The Fairy Tail girls

The Bleach girls

Lady and Trish from Devil May Cry.

DC comics women

Marvel comics women.

I'm sorry, what? Why are western superheroines getting special treatment on this? What purpose does that serve?

edited 13th Jul '11 11:03:15 PM by KingZeal

43 Deboss13th Jul 2011 11:10:09 PM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
I assume it's because it's a thing based around the way a genre portrays things.
Right, but there's absolutely nothing you can say about this that isn't covered by Boobs of Steel, Buxom Is Better, My Breasts Are Down Here, or World of Buxom.

Literally, the main thing this trope has going for it is this:

"This most common of metahuman attributes seems to range from a D-cup size upward for any character just past the onset of puberty (a time when many comic-book characters start to manifest superpowers). They are not only large, but remarkably self-supporting and perky for their size."

If you turn this is into a generic boob trope, in a few months, you'll be merging it with one or more of the three dozen others we have on the site. I'm personally of the the mind that the reason the current name works is because you know exactly what it's referring to when you take one look at the page. That was why I wanted to know exactly what the justification for rename was.

edited 13th Jul '11 11:20:06 PM by KingZeal

Not Holier than Thou
Let's go ahead and get a single prop crowner up.
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I really don't want to have to repeat again that this trope isn''t limited Comics. It's talking about the genre. The point of this trope is that the standard bust size for a superheroine in the superhero genre is large, they are Almost always depictated with large breasts regardless of the work, universe, or medium.

Again this is about genre as a whole not particular works.
Right, which is exactly why "Most Common Superpower" works as a name. It's the ONLY thing that separates it from the other tropes. No other genre of fiction has common superpowers. Even shonen, where almost everyone has enhanced strength. The abilities of everyone in Bleach is more varied than the breast sizes of the characters.
48 32_Footsteps14th Jul 2011 07:08:34 AM from Just north of Arkham , Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Think of the mooks!
@44 I beg to differ.

This trope is about how super powers and large breasts go hand-in-hand. It differs from World of Buxom because, in the latter, everyone and not just the supers get breasts. It differs from Buxom Is Better because that is a supertrope that simply talks about large breasts, not even getting into any of the details.

Finally, it's different from Boobs of Steel because that only covers melee fighters with large breasts and doesn't care whether or not they have large breasts.

To break it down into four categories, from the Marvel Universe:

Jubilee: Has energy projection powers, but is generally depicted flat. An aversion of this trope, and completely distinct from Boobs Of Steel. Black Widow: Is a Badass Normal with spy training, knows plenty of martial arts, and has a big rack. Lacks superpowers so thus does not fit in this trope, but her melee combat ability qualifies her for Boobs Of Steel. Jean Grey/Phoenix: One of the top psychics in the world, but is merely an athletic woman physically, and has large breasts. She has this trope, but not Boobs Of Steel, since her combat ability is based on energy projection and Psychic Powers. Rogue: Beyond her energy draining powers, she's a Flying Brick. She also has large breasts. She qualifies for both tropes because she has an established power set and she's one of the top brawlers for her team. Jennifer Walters: Here's the big kicker. Before her fateful blood transfusion with her cousin Bruce, she was both unpowered and of normal build, so she had neither trope. But then said transfusion turned her into She-Hulk, and, sure enough, explicitly among the powers she got was large breasts, which is as blatant as this trope ever gets. She also learned to fight quite well, so she also gets Boobs Of Steel. If she tries fighting as Jen (instead of Hulking Out), she doesn't get either trope applied.
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Actually, Boobs of Steel is about the The best physical fighter in a team and/or cast comprising of one than female has the largest breasts. Basically it's not just any close combat Action Girl, there has to be another woman to compare her to. Also Black Widow does fall under Most Common Super Power (Badass Normal are included as well).

Anyway, nobody gotten this trope confused with The best physical fighter in a team of females Stock Superpowers, so if that's the reason for a name change then I not sure it's necessary.

edited 14th Jul '11 9:03:41 AM by captainpat

[up] That's the real problem with a lot of these Buxom tropes. They're getting mistaken for character tropes, when they're supposed to be taken in aggregate.

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13th Jul '11 11:24:51 PM
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