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#26: Mar 12th 2011 at 10:09:28 PM

Well...characters in Counter Strike isn't much to look at anyways, so I wouldn't mind covering up.

^^Wouldn't Cloud and Super Saiyan hair be the same thing?


PS-asides from masks, I also like Nice Hat s....like that worthless Bard hat in NWN 2. It sucks...but I had it equipped all game long, even though I had plenty of MUCH better headgears to choose from...it looked neat on my monk.

edited 12th Mar '11 10:11:10 PM by Signed

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#27: Mar 12th 2011 at 10:11:09 PM

Super Saiyan is up-spiky, Cloud is everywhere-spiky.

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#28: Mar 12th 2011 at 10:12:37 PM

^^Unless you get a good custom model pack. CS is one of those games that server owners dare not turn sv_pure on for.

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#29: Mar 12th 2011 at 11:09:24 PM

If the helmet doesn't cover the face, I leave it off. Those things look ridiculous to me.

If it's a fully face-obscuring helmet, though, sign me up. Video game faces tend to be in the Uncanny Valley, anyway, so I rather just cover them up.

I made the mistake of leaving off a helmet in my first playthrough of Mass Effect 2, and I couldn't believe the second time just how silly that heavy armor looks with your puny human head.

I just hope that Warhammer 40 K Space Marine game actually let's you wear the helmet. Theirs look much cooler than the generic bold-headed guy in the trailers.

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#30: Mar 12th 2011 at 11:28:28 PM

^Try the Exterminatus mod for Half Life 2 while you wait.

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#31: Mar 12th 2011 at 11:31:26 PM

Sounds awesome, but sadly I'm not much a multiplayer gamer these days.

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#32: Mar 13th 2011 at 12:26:50 AM

I really like badass helmets. In fact, I'm rather sick to death of "some guy in civilian clothes beats up better-armored forces" in any game, so I go for... unique looking ones.

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#33: Mar 13th 2011 at 3:38:36 AM

I don't play enoguth RP Gs to know for sure, but I think I would end up wearing them for stats. Certainly do in nethack, but it's not like it has any true graphics...

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#34: Mar 13th 2011 at 4:21:04 AM

Helmets can do a great job of lifting some characters out of the Uncanny Valley.

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#35: Mar 13th 2011 at 6:36:07 AM

Well...so is literally every other RPG in existence that has an equipment system... A non-combat RPG would be pretty boring...

I meant they're expecting open combat. They're soldiers and it makes sense to wear any armor possible.

In other universes, a helmet will do fuck all.

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#36: Mar 13th 2011 at 6:52:23 AM

I always wear the best equipment possible. It doesn't make any sense not to. These guys are trained warriors, and I like armour; there's nothing quite like being an unstoppable force of nature clad in metal.

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#37: Mar 13th 2011 at 8:04:20 AM

Helmets Are Hardly Heroic. I always leave mine off and let my crazy Anime Hair flow freely. Headbands, ninja masks, goggles, visors and such are A-OK in my book though. But if you end up spending like an hour making sure your character looks juuuuust right suddenly covering it up with a bulky head-protector seems counterproductive. Also, most helmets end up making your character look bald when you look closely. Layme.

There are exceptions though. When my character is suited from neck to toe in five centimeter thick plate armor it seems sorta silly to not cover up the head. Heavy units in Fire Emblem always sorta weirded me out because of that.

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#38: Mar 13th 2011 at 10:36:51 AM

Im 50/50 on most cases for example Demons Souls Some of those helms are Ugly (Ancient king mask), and some are just plain awesome like Gloom armor which makes you look like Sauron. Unfortunately there is no option to hide the helm but considering its nearly impossible to make a decent looking character your better off with the helms.

edited 13th Mar '11 10:40:27 AM by stevebat

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#39: Mar 13th 2011 at 2:21:42 PM

I meant they're expecting open combat. They're soldiers and it makes sense to wear any armor possible.

But...in any RP Gs, how can you NOT expect open combat when you arm yourself with sword and spells and enter a dungeon that is clearly going to be infested with monsters and a boss at the end?

Or when you roam around the fields that are always roaming with monsters spawning night and day, how can you expect to not run into another random encounter?!


I just noticed an interesting trend...most games I don't mind wearing helmets in turn out to be WRPG's due to their ugly faces generally are...but that's a topic for another thread.

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#40: Mar 13th 2011 at 2:57:04 PM

Mass Effect is ironically how to do helmets. Tourian armors helmets looks fucking uber. Human helmets tend to be rather sad in comparision. Nr2 failed at no proper option for a properly covering goodlooking helmet.
Dragon Age did partially do a good job
I guess it depends on the headgear in question, a lot of headgear in games look extremely bad. I would equip any well looking ones if i got the chance.

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#41: Mar 13th 2011 at 3:01:28 PM

Ah...Dragon Age. I forgot was it this game or some other WRPG, but I hated the art style because of the blood splatters. You kill stuff and their blood splatters all over you...

I don't hate it because it's violent or excessive  *

, I just hate it because they make the characters look like they're infected with bright red fungus. That, and the characters aren't much to look at...but mostly the "red fungus imagery" that I didn't like at all.
All that said...wouldn't it be great if some company made some sort of Super Sentai -ish RPG?

edited 13th Mar '11 3:10:35 PM by Signed

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#42: Mar 13th 2011 at 7:44:44 PM

I remember giving two archers the same helmet in Dungeon Siege and discovering that when using an overhead camera angle I could no longer tell them apart at a casual glance. I wound up thinking of them as "the twins." That said, the only equipment I've outright refused to use despite the stat bonuses isn't a helmet, but a kilt. (I even gave a male character a "Black Dress of Speed" in Blades Of Avernum—bonus AP FTW!)

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#43: Mar 13th 2011 at 9:40:44 PM

The problem in most MM Os is that the majority of helmet hiders insist on choosing a hairstyle that looks like:

I play a troll in World Of Warcraft. Even if the helmets weren't uniformly hideous in that game, seeing them stretch around my tusks is just silly. I think he can look quite stylish in a brimmed hat, but obviously those don't have much armor. Nor do they even exist at higher levels.

And for the record, he has dreadlocks, not anime hair.

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#44: Mar 13th 2011 at 9:58:16 PM

Most RPGs? Nah. Demon's Souls? Yes. The extra defense is helpful in soul form.

edited 13th Mar '11 10:04:16 PM by Shlapintogan

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#45: Mar 13th 2011 at 10:08:31 PM

@Signed "A non-combat RPG would be pretty boring... "

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#46: Mar 14th 2011 at 12:12:51 AM

@Signed: In Dragon Age II, it looks better (although how much is debatable and I didn't mind it in DAO) and even dynamic. The more you rip and tear, the more blood sticks on you. Yes, I really like this. But of course, I still play it for the story, not for my insatiable blood lust.

I always use helmets, nevermind how stupid it may look on my character (except when it doesn't give any any bonuses). Still, I wish that more games would go for the Dragon Age II or at least Dragon Age: Origins (no helmets in dialogs and (some) cutscenes) route.

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#47: Mar 14th 2011 at 2:38:47 AM

In New Vegas I specifically went with a helmet with lower protection than another superior one because the latter the had a visor over the eyes, the first did not. I wanted to wear my sunglasses.

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#48: Mar 14th 2011 at 3:07:03 AM

Tangentially relatedly, I tend not to use the GUNGNIR helmet in Halo Reach because of the lack of a visor. Sure, it looks kinda cool, but there's something wrong about it.

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#49: Mar 14th 2011 at 4:44:12 AM

Any RPG that alters the characters appearance through gear I face slight dillemas of what to make them wear sometimes. And this isn't limited to just helmets!

But yes, very often I just wished the helmet could be turned invisible. I didn't pick that nice hair/hat for my character to see it disappear under an ugly helmet!

Damn you gear stats... Why can't I just mould them into the items I want to wear and not end up wearing the most powerful, unmatching and stupidiest looking items I got?

Though some MMO's have realised that and do let you do just that.

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#50: Mar 14th 2011 at 3:53:50 PM

^^^^ Yeah but the gameplay is dumbed down by quite a bit. It wasn't even a Dragon Age game anymore...did people honestly have a problem with the previous game?

It's just a button masher now.


On-Topic: Is there such thing as an RPG that let's me outright design my own gear's appearance?

I don't mean change color or change/remove pre-set features, I mean customize the shapes and stuff...

edited 14th Mar '11 3:55:16 PM by Signed

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