Wait, what?: Context Sensitive Button get usage counts
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Dragon Writer
This article is written about an in-universe control that does whatever function the current plot requires.

However, it's also a term for videogames, where one button on the controller interface is reserved for a context-sensitive function.

In-universe vs. audience interface is a pretty significant distinction, but what do we do?

Here's a cursory glance at the wicks:

In-universe control elements

Relating to player interface

Ambiguous

2 Deboss8th Feb 2011 12:09:41 PM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
Curse you videogames! You take a perfectly good gag and turn it into something serious.
Soft split?
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4 HersheleOstropoler8th Feb 2011 04:40:28 PM from BK.NY.US , Relationship Status: Less than three
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Uncritically accepting stratadrake's numbers, I see a clear majority of uses being as defined on the page.
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5 Deboss8th Feb 2011 04:42:51 PM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
I'm inclined to do a hard split because one is a mechanic the other is a gag.
6 Camacan9th Feb 2011 05:11:44 PM from Australiatown
Googling around, it seems that "context sensitive" is a pre-existing term in the gaming world, but Context-Sensitive Button is not so universal. There is Action Button for the singular and Context Sensitive Controls when there is more than one. People also use Context-Sensitive Button , but googling for Context-Sensitive Button brings up our article at the top.

(I'd support a hard split too.)

edited 9th Feb '11 5:12:39 PM by Camacan

7 Deboss9th Feb 2011 05:27:07 PM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
I can't think of a term for the comedy gag that wouldn't be confused for the mechanic though. Multi Purpose Button comes to mind, but same problem. Hm, Plot-Sensitive Button maybe?
8 Camacan9th Feb 2011 05:37:48 PM from Australiatown
I'm inclined to leave the trope article at its current name and put the videogame control examples on Action Button or Context Sensitive Controls and leave it at that. We can disambiguate at the bottom of Context-Sensitive Button .

edited 9th Feb '11 5:48:59 PM by Camacan

9 Deboss9th Feb 2011 05:48:51 PM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
Controls would probably work best, since there's some that use d-pads and the like.
Dragon Writer
I kinda like Action Button for the interface mechanic and Plot-Sensitive Button for the in-universe item, but that's just me. They'd make suitable redirects in either case. Because if you have many context-sensitive Action Buttons in the control scheme, then ... well, that gets just plain confusing.

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edited 10th Feb '11 12:23:14 AM by Stratadrake

11 DragonQuestZ10th Feb 2011 12:19:44 AM from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
I would rather rename, since the term, even if not exact, has been used in video games, not for this trope. I have heard it referred to as a Do Anything Button once in a while.
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12 MousaThe1410th Feb 2011 04:46:11 AM from Northern Virginia , Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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This should be split into the gag Context Senstive Button and the mechanic Action Button.
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Dragon Writer
I'm not against a rename, however I did review the wicks and a clear majority of them focused (in some manner) on the in-universe gag. Preserving the current name and making a new trope for the interface mechanic is simply less work.
Kaosubaloo
This seems to have been stalled, however I'd like to point out that the discussed video game trope is likely People Sitting On Chairs. The VAST majority of games will use the same button for more than one purpose because of a limit of buttons, because overlapping buttons are easier to used then ones that are more spread out, and because some actions should be related.

But then, the reason why they overlap doesn't really matter when you can list (many) more games that have multi-use buttons than those that don't. So my vote is to just trim the examples that are not being correctly used and put a disclaimer stating "Don't do this!".
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[up] Being common doesn't make it People Sitting On Chairs. The vast majority of television programs have commercial breaks, but Commercial Break certainly isn't People Sitting On Chairs. Although since we don't have a page for Commercial Break, that's probably a poor example.
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16 Madrugada14th Mar 2011 01:16:30 PM , Relationship Status: In season
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Quite a few of the Video Game Mechanics we have are simply a definition of the term, rather than an actual trope in the "story-telling device sense".
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Dragon Writer
To be fair, videogames are a little more than stories to be "told"....
18 ccoa14th Mar 2011 11:11:37 PM from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
By Word of Eddie, game mechanics are to be considered tropes.
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Nostalgia
Hard split.
20 Zyffyr2nd Aug 2011 05:56:04 PM , Relationship Status:
Bump...
Loser
I apologize for being late to this thread, but there is now a page action crowner for this trope here. Feel free to add other options as you see fit.
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If we rename this one, I like Magic Plot Button.
Cure Candy
Oh yeah to hard split, I like Action Button for Video Games most I play games do call it that, Adventure or Action Adventure RPG games mostly. (the ones that don't use the tropes actual name that is) And for plot ones Magic Plot Button is ok or Press This To Make The Plot Go.

edited 20th Sep '11 1:25:16 PM by Raso

24 DragonQuestZ20th Sep 2011 01:57:14 PM from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
I prefer making the current name for uses in video games, since that is an actual term used by some games, and Do Anything Button for when a story just doesn't have a hard and fast use for a button.

edited 20th Sep '11 1:57:23 PM by DragonQuestZ

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25 shimaspawn3rd Oct 2011 07:57:18 PM from Here and Now , Relationship Status: In your bunk
Consensus is for a Hard Split.
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Alternative Titles: Context Sensitive Button
15th Jan '12 11:12:38 AM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.
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