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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#1: Feb 8th 2011 at 11:50:41 AM

This article is written about an in-universe control that does whatever function the current plot requires.

However, it's also a term for videogames, where one button on the controller interface is reserved for a context-sensitive function.

In-universe vs. audience interface is a pretty significant distinction, but what do we do?

Here's a cursory glance at the wicks:

In-universe control elements

Relating to player interface

Ambiguous

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#2: Feb 8th 2011 at 12:09:41 PM

Curse you videogames! You take a perfectly good gag and turn it into something serious.

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#3: Feb 8th 2011 at 2:19:18 PM

Soft split?

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#4: Feb 8th 2011 at 4:40:28 PM

Uncritically accepting stratadrake's numbers, I see a clear majority of uses being as defined on the page.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#5: Feb 8th 2011 at 4:42:51 PM

I'm inclined to do a hard split because one is a mechanic the other is a gag.

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Camacan from Australiatown Since: Jan, 2001
#6: Feb 9th 2011 at 5:11:44 PM

Googling around, it seems that "context sensitive" is a pre-existing term in the gaming world, but Context-Sensitive Button is not so universal. There is Action Button for the singular and Context Sensitive Controls when there is more than one. People also use Context-Sensitive Button, but googling for Context-Sensitive Button brings up our article at the top.

(I'd support a hard split too.)

edited 9th Feb '11 5:12:39 PM by Camacan

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#7: Feb 9th 2011 at 5:27:07 PM

I can't think of a term for the comedy gag that wouldn't be confused for the mechanic though. Multi Purpose Button comes to mind, but same problem. Hm, Plot-Sensitive Button maybe?

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Camacan from Australiatown Since: Jan, 2001
#8: Feb 9th 2011 at 5:37:48 PM

I'm inclined to leave the trope article at its current name and put the videogame control examples on Action Button or Context Sensitive Controls and leave it at that. We can disambiguate at the bottom of Context-Sensitive Button.

edited 9th Feb '11 5:48:59 PM by Camacan

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#9: Feb 9th 2011 at 5:48:51 PM

Controls would probably work best, since there's some that use d-pads and the like.

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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#10: Feb 9th 2011 at 11:45:07 PM

I kinda like Action Button for the interface mechanic and Plot-Sensitive Button for the in-universe item, but that's just me. They'd make suitable redirects in either case. Because if you have many context-sensitive Action Buttons in the control scheme, then ... well, that gets just plain confusing.

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edited 10th Feb '11 12:23:14 AM by Stratadrake

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#11: Feb 10th 2011 at 12:19:44 AM

I would rather rename, since the term, even if not exact, has been used in video games, not for this trope. I have heard it referred to as a Do Anything Button once in a while.

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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#13: Feb 10th 2011 at 9:32:09 AM

I'm not against a rename, however I did review the wicks and a clear majority of them focused (in some manner) on the in-universe gag. Preserving the current name and making a new trope for the interface mechanic is simply less work.

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Kaosubaloo Kaosubaloo from Canadia Since: Aug, 2009
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#14: Mar 14th 2011 at 11:45:31 AM

This seems to have been stalled, however I'd like to point out that the discussed video game trope is likely People Sitting On Chairs. The VAST majority of games will use the same button for more than one purpose because of a limit of buttons, because overlapping buttons are easier to used then ones that are more spread out, and because some actions should be related.

But then, the reason why they overlap doesn't really matter when you can list (many) more games that have multi-use buttons than those that don't. So my vote is to just trim the examples that are not being correctly used and put a disclaimer stating "Don't do this!".

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#15: Mar 14th 2011 at 11:51:34 AM

[up] Being common doesn't make it People Sitting On Chairs. The vast majority of television programs have commercial breaks, but Commercial Break certainly isn't People Sitting On Chairs. Although since we don't have a page for Commercial Break, that's probably a poor example.

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#16: Mar 14th 2011 at 1:16:30 PM

Quite a few of the Video Game Mechanics we have are simply a definition of the term, rather than an actual trope in the "story-telling device sense".

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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#17: Mar 14th 2011 at 10:54:16 PM

To be fair, videogames are a little more than stories to be "told"....

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#18: Mar 14th 2011 at 11:11:37 PM

By Word of Eddie, game mechanics are to be considered tropes.

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#21: Sep 20th 2011 at 1:07:40 PM

I apologize for being late to this thread, but there is now a page action crowner for this trope here. Feel free to add other options as you see fit.

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#23: Sep 20th 2011 at 1:24:33 PM

Oh yeah to hard split, I like Action Button for Video Games most I play games do call it that, Adventure or Action-Adventure RPG games mostly. (the ones that don't use the tropes actual name that is) And for plot ones Magic Plot Button is ok or Press This To Make The Plot Go.

edited 20th Sep '11 1:25:16 PM by Raso

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#24: Sep 20th 2011 at 1:57:14 PM

I prefer making the current name for uses in video games, since that is an actual term used by some games, and Do Anything Button for when a story just doesn't have a hard and fast use for a button.

edited 20th Sep '11 1:57:23 PM by DragonQuestZ

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#25: Oct 3rd 2011 at 7:57:18 PM

Consensus is for a Hard Split.

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3rd Oct '11 9:04:44 PM

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