Needs distinction from other fire-related trope: Kill It With Fire get usage counts
Deadlock Clock: 7th Jun 2013 11:59:00 PM
edited 14th Jul '12 5:35:19 PM by Nocturna
edited 14th Jul '12 7:07:55 PM by HyperZ
edited 16th Jul '12 8:27:44 AM by Deboss
- Holy Fire: Exactly What It Says on the Tin
- Purifying Flame: Fire that is magic, but not holy.
- Fire Purifies: All fire has these properties.
edited 16th Jul '12 12:13:23 PM by HyperZ
What I have:
- Playing with Fire: fire powers as a type of elemental power
- Pyromaniac: someone with an inordinate love of/obsession with fire
- Breath Weapon: covers creatures with a natural fire attack (like dragons)
- Fire-Breathing Weapon: flamethrowers and any other flame-producing weapon
- Cold Flames: illusory fire with the effects of real fire
- It's the Only Way to Be Sure: No Kill Like Overkill, using some form of flame/explosion, against a significant threat, over a very large area. Is a subtrope of the definition of Kill It with Fire below.
- Hellfire: Infernal fire with a lot of special properties (burn without fuel, harder to put out, kills things which are usually immune to fire, etc.). Is a subtrope of Magic Fire Is Special below.
- Kill It with Fire: "When in doubt, set it on fire." Or, in other words, killing something with flames, regardless of the special properties or lack thereof of said flames, to make sure it is dead and stays dead. Proposed alternate title: Scorched Earth Mentality.
- Possible internal subtrope, possible separate trope: Burning something after it's dead to make sure it stays dead.
- Fire Purifies: All forms of fire burns evil. This can take the form of removing evil from a possessed person, removing evil powers from a creature, or easily killing evil creatures.
- Internal subtrope: Placebo Flames: People think fire has purifying properties, and use it accordingly, but in reality fire is just normal.
- Magic Fire Is Special:note Magical fire has properties which normal fire doesn't.
- Internal subtropes: Magic fire is better at killing things. Magic fire can burn without fuel. Magic fire is more difficult to extinguish. Etc.
- Weak To Fire: A creature has a significant weakness to damage by fire.
- Probable internal subtrope, although could be made its own trope if there's sufficient examples: A creature can only be killed with fire.
- Holy Flames: (Some) fire has religious significance. Doesn't matter what the holy fire is used for.
- Burnless Flames: Real fire which, for some reason, isn't hot.
edited 16th Jul '12 12:44:26 PM by Nocturna
edited 17th Jul '12 2:18:06 PM by Nocturna
edited 17th Sep '12 9:30:51 AM by Nocturna
- Burn It With Fire — (currently redirects to Kill It with Fire) Merge Sandbox.Kill It With Fire with Burn The Body. Kill with fire or burn the bodies, to make sure they're really dead, that they stay dead, that the Orks don't get their spores everywhere, that the Artifact of Doom is really destroyed, etc. While Weak To Fire and Holy Flames can be reasons to do this, There Is No Kill Like Overkill, being a Pyro Maniac, and said Ork spores are other reasons. The tendency to just generally use fire against the supernatural is another reason. I don't think "make sure it's really dead" and "make sure it stays dead" should be separate tropes, so the title should be Burn It, not Kill It. Burn The Body and When In Doubt Kill It With Fire could be redirects.
- Weak To Fire — Either fire is super-effective, or fire is the only way to kill some monster, or characters in-universe think this is true. I don't think it'll be easy to sort out which is which, so they should be the same trope.
- Fire Purifies — All fire in general cleanses stuff. This may be the reason to Burn It With Fire when "It" is zombies or demons. It may be the reason to shove your half-mortal babies in the fireplace to make them immortal (burn away their mortality). It may be the only way to cleanse a character tainted by Evil Goop of Doom.
- Magical Fire — Magical fires do things that normal fire doesn't. It can be Holy Flames or Hellfire or Burnless Fire, or it doesn't need fuel, or is alive, whatever.
- Holy Flames — A special fire that is holy. It may be the reason Vampires are Weak To Fire. It may be the weapon of the God Emperor of Mankind and the reason you think Orks are Weak To Fire. It may be the Eternal Flame on the altar of your Zoroastrian temple. It may be the special flames wielded by Fiery Angels of Fire. It may be the only fire that turns half-mortal babies into godlings instead of just killing them. It may be the Burnless Fire that does no harm to the pure of heart, but hurts everybody else. It may be the sacred Solar Flames that destroy dead bodies before they can become undead. It can, in short, be a reason for Weak To Fire or Burn It With Fire to appear, or it can be unrelated to them. It would not be a subtrope of Magical Fire — the fire can be a nonmagical religious symbol instead. Purifying Flame could be a redirect.
- Burnless Fire — Fire that doesn't burn. Related to but different from Cold Flames.
- Kill It with Fire — This is probably doomed to be a pothole magnet and meme. I don't think using it as a trope name is a good idea.
- Burn The Body — I suggest merging it with Sandbox.Kill It With Fire under the name Burn It With Fire.
- Burn the Undead — Looks good. I suggest defining it as a subtrope of both Burn It With Fire and Weak To Fire.
- Fire Purifies — I suggested a slight expansion of definition for when fire purifies away something other than Evil.
- Magic Fire — Looks good.
- Sacred Flames — Looks good. For search purposes Sacred Fire, Holy Fire, and Holy Flames should be redirects.
- Symbolic Flames — Looks good. I'm fine with having it separate from Sacred Flames.
- Weak To Fire — Looks good.
edited 15th Oct '12 11:40:22 AM by ArcadesSabboth
edited 15th Oct '12 9:48:05 PM by ArcadesSabboth