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joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#1: Dec 24th 2010 at 3:42:29 PM

Not like that! Get your mind out of the gutter. It just in my story i'm writing the villain as this city official that has to be legally untouchable. What could I have him do that makes it's absolutely your meant to hate them but still sticking to the letter of the law

edited 24th Dec '10 3:43:11 PM by joeyjojo

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melloncollie Since: Feb, 2012
#2: Dec 24th 2010 at 3:44:46 PM

Use the law to pick on innocent, helpless people?

EthZee Since: Oct, 2010
#3: Dec 24th 2010 at 4:19:12 PM

Make him be involved in banking. That should do the trick. ¬_¬

Zolnier The Odd Lad from A suspiciously dull shop Since: Apr, 2009
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#4: Dec 24th 2010 at 5:11:03 PM

Isn't this more of a writer's block question?

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BlackHumor Unreliable Narrator from Zombie City Since: Jan, 2001
#6: Dec 24th 2010 at 7:06:07 PM

  1. Make him a dictator, or working for a dictator, and thus immune to prosecution.
  2. If you must set this in a democratic nation, make the city ridiculously corrupt.
  3. If you can't make the city corrupt, have him be head of the mob, and thus difficult to prosecute without "accidents".
  4. If the things he's doing absolutely must really be legal, try things along the line of the Uriah Gambit. (Unfortunately, this is difficult for someone who has no military authority, but you might be able to pull it.)

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storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
More like giant cherries
joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
Happy New Year!
#8: Dec 24th 2010 at 7:22:49 PM

isn't this more of a writer's block question?
whoops my bad. :S

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Ettina Since: Apr, 2009
#9: Dec 24th 2010 at 7:26:44 PM

Well, you can do a lot of mean things without ever technically hurting anyone. An Obstructive Beaurocrat, or a Corrupt Corporate Executive, for example, can do some very cruel things without breaking the law.

edited 24th Dec '10 7:28:37 PM by Ettina

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ZheToralf Floating Advice Reminder from somewhere in Germany Since: Dec, 2009
#10: Dec 25th 2010 at 9:28:42 AM

Make him be a Lawyer.

to elaborate: a Lawyer who bails out the most gruesome offenders. Rapist? He doesn't care, he just wants to win the case and celebrate it. That stuff, you know?

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americanbadass Banned from [CENSORED] Since: Mar, 2010
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#11: Dec 25th 2010 at 11:41:37 AM

Make him ban love through the legal system:

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mikefrombrooklyn Since: Dec, 1969
#12: Dec 25th 2010 at 11:59:37 AM

[up][up] That's what a lawyer is supposed to do. They are amoral by design.

LoniJay from Australia Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
#13: Dec 25th 2010 at 5:15:37 PM

Have him own a whole heap of really bad housing and ruthlessly exploit the poor people living there? Have him own a company that employs sweat-shop like labour?

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BlackHumor Unreliable Narrator from Zombie City Since: Jan, 2001
#14: Dec 25th 2010 at 5:37:53 PM

@Zhe: Eh, I wouldn't call that a Complete Monster, or even a villain.

It's not a sexy thing to do, but even rapists and murderers need defense lawyers for the integrity of the system to be preserved. The US legal system is based on not being convicted of any crime the government hasn't damn well proven you committed, and you can't really force the government to prove you did it beyond a reasonable doubt without a defense lawyer there to create a reasonable doubt for you.

And of course, any defense lawyer that's gotten some guilty people aquitted has almost certainly also saved plenty of innocent people.

But this is not really on topic, and this is OTC.

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SilentReverence adopting kitteh from 3 tiles right 1 tile up Since: Jan, 2010
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#15: Dec 25th 2010 at 10:10:20 PM

@OP: Make him create, own or manage the next Apple/Google/Microsoft. There, problem solved and you don't need to get messy with lawyers that much.

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JackMackerel from SOME OBSCURE MEDIA Since: Jul, 2010
#16: Dec 25th 2010 at 10:14:09 PM

Have him mismanage and do all sorts of policy shit, as the head of a mega-corporation.

Half-Life: Dual Nature, a crossover story of reasonably sized proportions.
joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
Happy New Year!
#17: Dec 26th 2010 at 9:07:15 PM

[up] I want to kill already.

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Barkey Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#18: Dec 26th 2010 at 10:50:28 PM

Have him be the head(CEO or regional head) of a corporation so big that it owns or is funneling money into tons of local government level agencies?

ZheToralf Floating Advice Reminder from somewhere in Germany Since: Dec, 2009
#19: Dec 27th 2010 at 12:45:26 AM

@Black Humor: I mean something different, more like a lawyer who doesn't CARE to for example, get a Rapist free, even if he knows he's guilty and will do it again. Someone who does not see anything wrong with people he knows are guilty running around freely because of him.

Sometimes i just don't know the right words to explain what i mean, especially in english.

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betaalpha betaalpha from England Since: Jan, 2001
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#20: Dec 27th 2010 at 1:56:36 AM

There is the 'office psychopath', a bully who works his way into the company's political system and corrupts it, becoming untouchable due to his network of croneys and allies. Methods include promoting people because they are useful to him rather than good at their jobs, using the rumour system or planting evidence to destroy competition and flush out non-croneys, using official and unofficial power to terrify everyone, even persecuting non-allies until the stress kills them or drives them to suicide.

if you Google workplace bullying stories you can net yourself some horrifying real-life High Octane Nightmare Fuel .

Also: a child abuser working in child services? Or he finds shelter for batteres wives, then sells information about their location to the (potentially murderous) husbands, or even kills them for kicks and profit. Taking it Up To Eleven, he could even use his position and power to run a society of vampires, sex slave owners, paedophiles and so on. (Though I suggest you keep the story small and personal-the more the reader experiences this guy, the more of a complete monster he'll become).

RawPower Jesus as in Revelations from Barcelona Since: Aug, 2009
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#21: Dec 27th 2010 at 3:08:40 AM

It's not that hard. Look at Akumetsu. Plenty of perfectly legal bad guys.

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joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
Happy New Year!
#22: Dec 28th 2010 at 4:20:33 AM

[up][up]The office psychopath type sounds spot on (pedophilic vampires is a bit OTT), What I was trying to go for was the worst example of a human being possible in day to day life.

edited 28th Dec '10 4:22:11 AM by joeyjojo

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Carciofus Is that cake frosting? from Alpha Tucanae I Since: May, 2010
Is that cake frosting?
#23: Dec 28th 2010 at 5:36:49 AM

Make him an agent for some poorly controlled, secret national agency. In the words of George White, who was in charge of the infamous MK-ULTRA project,

I was a very minor missionary, actually a heretic, but I toiled wholeheartedly in the vineyards because it was fun, fun, fun. Where else could a red-blooded American boy lie, kill, cheat, steal, rape, and pillage with the sanction and blessing of the All-Highest?

edited 28th Dec '10 5:37:02 AM by Carciofus

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.
betaalpha betaalpha from England Since: Jan, 2001
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#24: Dec 28th 2010 at 2:33:46 PM

Glad I could help joeyjojo. Reading some of the stories at http://www.overcomebullying.org/workplace-bullying-stories.html showed me you could have a complete monster without him having to murder, rape etc. Probably helped that they tended to be Karma Houdidi - they're so hard to dislodge, the company often goes bankrupt from their mismanagement first. It's a happy ending if the victim can just escape :(

It's even worse in government positions because they tend to old-fashioned cultures, which favours bullies more, plus no matter how bad the corruption and destroyed employees costs, government subsidies keep the organisation going.

Happy writing!

edited 28th Dec '10 2:38:07 PM by betaalpha

joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
Happy New Year!
#25: Dec 29th 2010 at 1:46:52 AM

Thanks again. Definitely some stories I'm going to use. You would be surprised at how much of a monster you can be by just being a mismanaging office bully. which is what I want for my Big Bad. Think hitler, but without the imagination.

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