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YMMV: Crusader Kings
  • Best Known for the Fanservice: The Zoroastrian religion. A unique religion of a fallen empire, with fire-worshipping priests and the ability to bring its priesthood Back from the Brink and become a prophesied Messiah? No, as far as the fandom's concerned, it's the religion with the incest.
    • And with Rajas of India, we have an entirely new continent, new cultures, new Indian events and a potential for the early establishment of Hindustan. What does the fandom care about? The new Messalian heresy, which has incest and the worship of Lucifer as a god figure. To wit.
  • Broken Base:
    • Sunset Invasion, a not-entirely-serious DLC focused on an Alternate History where the Aztecs invade Europe. Some loathe the concept, some like the idea of western Europe having an equivalent of the Mongols, others appreciate it as a potential countermeasure against the Moors, and some are content to buy the DLC and just deactivate it for certain campaigns.
    • It also happens with the some of the more recent Portraits DLC. The artist changed, and a big part of the community thinks the art comes off in poorer quality than before. Some people (keeping up with the recent fad in the forums of making petitions for everything) are petitioning the mods to redo the facepacks. The issue often descends into a Flame War.
    • The current trend of DLC expansions has players divided on how Paradox is treating previously implemented content, and if favorites are being played. The Old Gods was one such example, as discussion of favoritism being given towards the Norse due to the far greater degree of content and lack of pre-patch balance, with other pagan religions showing a far thinner amount of content. Critics have also argued the lack of post-expansion attention to various mechanics, despite players demanding attention, such as the Decadence system that was implemented with the Sword of Islam expansion.
    • Rajas of India breaks the base even further. The patch containing free content disrupted multiplayer capabilities, while the expansion of the map to include India meant that lower end computers who could play the game previously now struggle to do so, and Paradox's attempt to compress portraits to free up memory resulted in bugged portraits. These problems persisted for over three months after ROI's release.
  • Demonic Spiders: The Mongol Hordes. Yeah, Exactly What It Says on the Tin. THEY WILL KILL YOU DEAD.
  • Fridge Brilliance: Have you ever noticed how courtiers of a dynasty, when not influenced by the player, tend to 'not' marry after some two generations or so of sitting on their hands as courtiers, and subsequently ending that particular branch of the family? Well, what if it's the way of the game representing that that particular branch pretty much became plebeians, and thus the records have been lost to history due to unimportance?
    • This goes hand in hand with the mechanic of inviting (read: creating new) nobles to your court. They didn't just form out of thin air. They were always around, but when invited they become a part of recorded history.
    • They seems to be a divergence between a character's physical traits relating to their appearance (specifically the "Attractive" and "Ugly" traits), until you realise that you are looking at their portraits. Portraits which can be embellished.
    • This one is very sad, and very appropriate for the time period. Did you ever notice, out of all the marriages that are contracted throughout the time period, how few wives and husbands love each other?
  • Goddamned Bats: The Old Gods adds raiders who will plunder your territory, then flee back onto their longboats before your army can get to them.
  • Good Bad Bugs: The demo for the sequel restricted play to only four characters. However, almost imminently players found out they could play whichever character they wanted by picking a character from the demo list, then quickly clicking on a province on the map before the game loads - and play as the ruler of said province.
  • Holy Shit Quotient: If "From Holy Kingdom to Unholy Nightmare" is any indication, Sons of Abraham does this for the second game. Having your children and heirs to your realms be the spawn of Satan (complete with insanly high stats) will do that for anyone.
  • Karma Houdini: A successful (villainous) player character will often be this, especially from a modern perspective. You can smother infants in their cribs to steal their titles, force female prisoners to be your concubines (if you are a pagan), murder trusting friends for power and land, have children with a wife who hates you to the core because you killed her father for the throne and still die peacefully in your bed, wealthy, powerful and esteemed by your peers.
  • Magnificent Bastard: What the player is aiming to be. Results may vary.
  • The Scrappy: The Karlingnote  dynasty in The Old Gods 867 start, who start with the powerful and prosperous kingdoms of East and West Francia,note  Italy, and Lotharingia (among others) within their realm. Due to the way alliance and title mechanics work in the game, they often hold onto their thrones much longer than they historically did, and any attempt to unseat one of them (or half the wars they get involved in at all, really) ends up dragging literally half of Europe into the fray.
  • Spiritual Licensee: A Rock Paper Shotgun review of the second game calls it "the best Game of Thrones game you will probably ever play."
  • Surprisingly Improved Sequel: The original game, while it had its fans, was definitely a flawed game, with a Troubled Production and quite a lot of bugs. Crusader Kings II, on the other hand, has received by far the smoothest launch of any Paradox game to date, and received almost universal acclaim from the fans. Expansions like Sword of Islam, Legacy of Rome and The Old Gods have only served to make it even better.

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