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CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. Since: Aug, 2010
Would that it were so simple.
08/10/2012 17:59:09 •••

Definitely worth watching

It's been five years since I saw Spiderman 3 and I haven't really watched any films in the previous trilogy since then, so I was able to approach the film with relatively fresh eyes. I feel that this film is superior to the previous trilogy. It felt more grounded than the Raimi trilogy, which embraced spectacle and character archetypes at the expense of character development.

Pros:

  • Andrew Garfield strikes me as a believable Spider-man and Peter Parker. Going from the awkward stuttering to the deadpan snarking seemed more seamless. Tobey Maguire was a great Peter Parker, but he never really sold me as Spider-man.
  • Martin Sheen as Ben Parker was really great, and I'm glad that they made him seem like a father figure in all its aspects — fair-minded disciplinarian, included — rather than just a sage old man who spouts out words of wisdom to be quoted later during an epiphany.
  • Emma Stone as Gwen Stacy was very good. I'm glad she was shown to be just as nerdy and intelligent as Peter, and that she is a Badass Damsel. Throughout the entire film, she needs rescuing zero times. After a string of films where Mary Jane is the Distressed Damsel du jour, having Gwen hold her own was very refreshing. In fact, this film's Gwen makes MJ pale so much in comparison so much that I'd be willing to see her eventual fate be postponed one whole film.
  • Police are portrayed as reasonable people and not bumbling strawmen that superheroes step over to get the job done. The fact that Peter actually goes to Capt. Stacy with info on the Lizard was an excellent inclusion, and the captain himself is a Badass.
  • Web-slinging scenes look a lot better.
  • Peter taking longer to understand the responsibilities tied to his powers. It makes him show actual growth. And face it, no teenager would immediately understand the responsibilities of power and anonymity.

Cons:

  • Aunt May is underutilized.
  • The subplot about Peter's parents seemed unnecessary.
  • It seems like Connors' plotline was rushed. I heard scenes of him were excised. He was still a better villain than most in the Raimi trilogy, but a little more development into his relationship with Peter would have helped. Also, the world without weakness speech just screams "Mad Scientist."
  • The crane scene was narmy, but not cripplingly so.

8/10.

Tomwithnonumbers Since: Dec, 2010
07/14/2012 00:00:00

I like to think Gwen is going to last at least to the 3rd or 4th film. She's well established and people aren't going to be happy seeing Peter switch or feeling that the Gwen ship will sink. It helps keep the reboot away from the other series and its only when the series identity has been well and truly established and maybe things are looking a bit stale that we're going to need such a big change up.

Then either they should make a big deal about it and have it happen and the end of the film and have a sequel released a year later that was written and shot at the same time, or it should happen in the early middle and the consequences be the main focus

ManwiththePlan Since: Dec, 2009
07/21/2012 00:00:00

^ I'm going to laugh if Gwen does end up dying from falling from a high ledge, which is something MJ survived in the Raimi films.

I agree with this review except for the notion that it's superior to all the Raimi films, and that those films "sacrificed Character Development". Really? I thought Harry Osborn's character arc was very well developed, amnesia and Deus Ex Machina butler be damned. Also, even if Peter ought to take longer to fully understand the power/responsibility moral, I would've rather the realization that his irresponsibility lead to Uncle Ben's death have been stronger, rather than the generic vigilante vengeance we got.

CasualBanshee Since: Apr, 2012
07/28/2012 00:00:00

In fact, this film's Gwen makes MJ pale so much in comparison so much that I'd be willing to see her eventual fate be postponed one whole film.

Um . . . I'm glad that you liked the main female character enough that you don't want to see her killed off for Peter's character development.

"Heroes don't get anything but dead." ~ The lovely Laurell K. Hamilton (I guess that explains why Anita Blake is still alive).
CrimsonZephyr Since: Aug, 2010
07/29/2012 00:00:00

I want her eventual fate to happen. I just don't want her Stuffed In The Fridge to make way for a garden variety Distressed Damsel. If they can write a good MJ, then great, go for it. But don't waste the character dynamic built in this film for the sake of getting through different plot events from the canon.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
CasualBanshee Since: Apr, 2012
08/02/2012 00:00:00

I want her eventual fate to happen. I just don't want her Stuffed In The Fridge to make way for a garden variety Distressed Damsel.

I don't know, it seems very unlikely that they're not going to milk her death for the sake of Peter's development. In a way that only serves to make him a fuller character, not her.

"Heroes don't get anything but dead." ~ The lovely Laurell K. Hamilton (I guess that explains why Anita Blake is still alive).
Tomwithnonumbers Since: Dec, 2010
08/05/2012 00:00:00

Give the unmade films and storylines a chance :D

Estvyk Since: Apr, 2011
08/06/2012 00:00:00

"Deus Ex Machina butler be damned".

Yes. Damn that butler for negating everything.

CasualBanshee Since: Apr, 2012
08/10/2012 00:00:00

@ Tomwithnonumbers

Not only will Gwen die, but the next Spider-Man movie will be about the Clone Saga!!!

Okay, I'll stop now. You're right, I shouldn't be such a cynic. :)

"Heroes don't get anything but dead." ~ The lovely Laurell K. Hamilton (I guess that explains why Anita Blake is still alive).

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