I\'m sorry, but their reasoning was completely AWFUL. Bayonetta would ANNIHILATE Dante with MINIMAL effort. I\'m gonna quote someone from DeviantArt here...
The research on Dante was VERY solid, VERY complete and VERY well done. Not so much Bayonetta. To their credit they did admit that she was a lot stronger... and that\'s about it. Some of her major feats were ultimately missed out on, such as atmospheric reentry or just surviving attacks from beings that can basically body planets. To quote King Crimson of ScrewAttack:
\"They blatantly ignored how the power of the left eye puts her on the same tier as moon/planetbusters and her feats of dodging satellites thrown at her from orbit (which, yes, trumps cutting raindrops.)\"
Addressing some points that they made, they say that Dante is faster given a speed feat that comes out to about Mach 20, but again dodging satellites is like, what, 9 times faster than that?
They say that Dante\'s Quicksilver could counter Witch Time... which almost holds up. Having two time slows to bring them back to normal speed isn\'t entirely wrong. The problem is that Quicksilver is simply inferior. Witch Time is more spammable, stackable, and nigh indefinite, where as Quicksilver is one layer only and limited by Devil Trigger energy.
They say that Bayonetta had no real way to kill Dante due to his regeneration, though said ability isn\'t gonna save him from Bayonetta\'s more devastating attacks. It\'s not Deadpool levels of ridiculous like they say it is, and Bayonetta just flat out survives more. I shouldn\'t have to tell you why the whole \"But when Bayonetta gets stabbed, it actually hurts\" thing is pretty ridiculous, either. Low ends don\'t magically make greater feats go away.
Plus, saying that Madame Butterfly is \'nothing new\' to Dante is pretty silly too. Where\'s your proof that it\'s anywhere close to what Dante\'s fought in the past?
Lastly, I\'m gonna site a quote from Lousy Tactician from ScrewAttack regarding Yamato:
\"Given the absolute greatest benefit of the doubt, and assuming anything Yamato, a sword that supposedly can cut ‘anything’ (big NLF right there), has been unable to cut (Rebellion, Nero’s arm) simply has resistance to dimensional hax, Bayo is so much faster and more destructive she could probably dodge anything from Yamato and obliterate Dante before it poses any threat. Yamato doesn\'t come close to being Dante\'s main weapon of choice anyway. He only uses it at the very end of Devil May Cry 4, and it\'s probably something he\'d bring out later in a fight.\"
A loss for Platinum Games is a win for good taste and gameplay with substance the world over. Oh boy, the salt is enough to keep House Frey in bread and salt for centuries...! Err, not that it\'ll be much use, what with them violating guest right for the pettiest of reasons.
[Mod Note: Please do not attack other users.] I wonder why people ever get surprised by Death Battles having shitty outcomes. The research is sloppy, and besides that, people never really watch to see who would win. Most of their fans just want their own thoughts on who would win confirmed, like most discussions of crossover fights.
\"Plus, saying that Madame Butterfly is \'nothing new\' to Dante is pretty silly too. Where\'s your proof that it\'s anywhere close to what Dante\'s fought in the past? \"
They show a clip of Devil May Cry 4 where Dante effortlessly - and I mean absolutely zero effort required - blocks an attack from \'The Savior\', a gigantic Demon God. And he\'s not using a style or any flashy technique, he just... blocks it, without sweating or flinching.
Bottom line, it\'s probably not a great idea to summon demons in a fight against a Demon Hunter, and Dante being able to take a ridiculous amount of punishment from Bayonetta (while she wouldn\'t be able to take a single well-aimed hit from him) doesn\'t sound like unreasonable logic to me.
Maybe I\'m just distracted by the pretty graphics though.
Well, just because something is familiar doesn\'t automatically mean you can beat it if it\'s vastly more powerful than you. That\'s like saying Goku can beat Superman because he\'s fought enemies with laser vision before [Dr. Gero]. The Bayonetta verse is so high above Devil May Cry it\'s ridiculous. To be honest, since all of their researchers agreed Dante got stomped hard, it honestly feels like Ben and Chad ignored them because they wanted to give Dante the win.
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\"To be honest, since all of their researchers agreed Dante got stomped hard\"
Where did you find that out?
\"it honestly feels like Ben and Chad ignored them because they wanted to give Dante the win.\"
And it feels more like you just want Bayonetta to win rather than actually believing she would.
I'm more than happy to complain when my favourite character loses too (RIP Sam Fisher. They just didn't understand the many uses of your sticky camera like I do,) but at some point you have to realise that a lot of these characters don't come from world have that clear definitions.
Could Dante shrug off Madama Butterfly? I dunno, but he completely shrugged off an attack from a similarly gigantic and powerful Demon God before, without Devil Trigger, outside of his super-defense form, without even recoiling. At all. Plus, Madama Butterfly ain't exactly the most agile of gals.
I might just want to defend this bit in particular because Dante blocking Madama Butterfly's 1,000 gigaton punch before kicking her away, cutting her leg off and beheading her was probably the single coolest 'Oh snap!' moment of the fight. Even Bayonetta seemed to think so.
I\'m not all that familiar with Death Battle, but any attempt to not only state which of two characters would win, but to assert that it\'s the objective proof of that character\'s superiority as a fighter is asking for trouble. The Broken Base entry on Death Battle\'s YMMV page nicely explains why some degree of controversy is inevitable, and the bullet points beneath it show why some battles are worse than others.
The savior wasn\'t a demon god, it was an animated giant statue.
http://devilmaycry.wikia.com/wiki/The_Savior
According to this,
Rank: God
Species: Artificial Demon
It is also an animated giant statue though, so you're not wrong there.
That is not really notable of power and more of a tittle. Notice how it\'s even quoted, \"God\". It was the god of the order of the sword, an idelized version of Sparda.
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The Best Death Battle: Dante VS Bayonetta
I complain about Death Battle more than I would like to admit. It's a really good show, and I agree with at least 85% of the outcomes, but for some reason, I'm always drawn to complain about the ones I don't like more than I am to compliment the ones I like. I even wanted to write a review on 'The Worst Death Battle', but decided that in the interests of not being an ungrateful twat, I would not do this until I had written about the the best, which brings me onto the Season 3 premiere, Dante VS Bayonetta.
If I was describing this fight with no preparation, it would just be 'Holy F@#$, Holy F&%£ing F@#$, that was beautiful.' And true, the first thing to notice about Dante VS Bayonetta is that it is undoubtedly, by a large margin, the best-looking Death Battle so far. The animation is absolutely incredible from start to finish and Torrian deserves nothing but the highest praise for outdoing himself yet again. Dante and Bayonetta use loads of different weapons, forms, summons, and Trish and Jeanne even drop by for some tag-team attacks, which, for an unashamed plug for a new Death Battle spin-off, still managed to be a delightful bonus instead of an unwanted interruption.
But the bread and butter of Death Battle is the research, and... well, they did their research. The rundown on both characters is extensive and in-depth, with Bayonetta giving Boomstick many chances to humourously decide whether or not he wants to hit on her, and Wiz gives enough background on both of the characters and how over-the-top ridiculously Crazy Awesome they both are that you really don't know who's going to win. And yet, their explanation for who would win and why (no spoilers) adds up really well.
I feel like it's almost unfair to name this 'The Best Death Battle', since with combatants like Dante and Bayonetta, it couldn't really have not been awesome. Dante effortlessly blocks hits from titanic-sized Demon Gods, and anyone who played Devil May Cry remembers the cutscene
where he gets impaled to the floor by a magic electric sword, only to pull himself up through the sword, with nothing more than an expression of mild annoyance akin to 'Heh, Mondays, am I right?' Likewise, Bayonetta kicks military jets out of the air, flings satellites at ridiculous speeds through outer space using only her legs, and has a reaction time of less than a thousandth of a second. There is no way that a fight between these two could not be amazing.
But if anything, the fight deserves credit for not only living up to those expectations, but also shattering them. Everyone involved, Ben, Chad, Torrian, Nick, the g1 research team, the guy who animated DBX who's getting unfairly criticized because his spin-off wasn't as good as the main battle but was still really good... this was a standout performance from everyone.
And in my opinion, it is The Best Death Battle.
So far.