Unless the game portrays those kinds of consequences, all that is is "Great Replacement" xenophobic drivel.
Someone in ATT posited that since some people do believe it in real life (since the EDAF is based on a real life group) then it means that someone thinks the strawman has a point, but, well, someone in real life probably thinks anything. We wouldn't put an entry in there if a character was a flat-Earther by the logic of "well, people in real life do believe this even though there's not evidence of it being true in the world or the world of the game."
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Part of the thing is that it doesn't work In-Universe or out of universe. Immigrants aren't destroying countries left and right by existing and statistically speaking immigrants, both legal and undocumented, are a boon to a country's economy (admittedly this is based on America and I don't know the case for England). Immigration, both documented and undocumented, is basicially capitalism's wet dream.
The strawman doesn't have a point, but he does have (objectively incorrect) people that think he does. Hence why I brought up the flat-Earthers. I'm not denying that real life people believe the Earth is flat. But they do not have a point if it's not supported by the work or by real life itself. It's one of those things that sounds right but, well, facts don't care about your feelings.
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Er, nice strawmanning of everyone else. Neat.
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Yeah, I stopped around "There is the argument that could be made of "Drake is saying it's wrong because it's illegal, while he's a vigilante" but that's just the ad hominem fallacy at play." because it already mischaracterizes the trope. SHAP is like Designated Hero or Designated Villain — the work is written in support of position X and against position Y, but the work actually presents an effective support for Y. Like the two Designated tropes, this is YMMV because it is an audience (re)interpretation of events in the work. Random characters spouting political talking points is not enough to "have a point", nor is it enough to show the work is against those talking points.
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Folks in Ask The Tropers here
have contested this entry, but it really needs to be discussed here:
- Strawman Has a Point: The EDAF are portrayed as xenophobic bigots that hate all immigrants, but a few of the supporters you can talk to bring up valid points about how a large group of immigrants can easily displace funds and resources that the country desperately needs, or the fact that a large group of immigrants usually have many issues (be it poverty, psychological, or bigoted beliefs of their own) and force it on the citizens who have their own issues to deal with.
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