I think this page needs a bit of a clean-up. The Base Breaker page is huge, and like half of these characters aren't even Base Breakers. I browse the subreditt, Tumblr (sometimes I also check the SQ hate-posts) and occasionally Twitter: no one cares that much about Pete. Dean Munsch is not the least-hated character. People love Chanel #3 and Chanel Oberlin. (Emma Roberts is divisive and Chanel does have a few detractors, just not that many as this page says. But I guess she's definitely more of a Base Breaker than #3.) Candle Vlogger is actually somewhat well-received, at least on the Reddit.
Chanel #5 is kind of divisive, yeah. But her page lists her actress's performance as one of the character's strengths, then goes on to list it for one of her weaknesses.
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there also seems to be an edit war over wether or not Chanel # 2 is a scrappy.
Ironically that'd make her more of a Base Breaker than anyone else, since she's proving to be this divisive, ha.
Too bad this site doesn't allow for polls to see how people feel about characters. I know the subreddit did a Strawpoll for that.
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Maybe we should wait until the end of the season to do a clean-up like with Breaking Bad? Towards the end of that show's run, nearly every character was put under The Scrappy for being for or against Walt (including an infant) until the mods stepped in. It'll probably be easier to determine whether or not the characters fit under Base Breaker by then.
I'm going to remove this:
- Unfortunate Implications: Seeing as Ryan Murphy has already come under a lot of fire for his handling of bisexuality in the past, it comes off pretty badly when Chanel #3 discusses her sexuality and jumps from thinking she's straight to lesbian to pansexual while completely ignoring bisexuality.
She didn't jump go straight -> lesbian -> pan. Her voiceover says that she had confusing feelings for Sam and wanted to kiss her to help sort things out. She realizes her feelings are true, but later on says that her love isn't bound by gender.
Even after Chanel #3 confesses her love to Sam, she still brings up her love history and talks about how her love makes people psycho - specifically bringing up the guys she dated. She didn't declare herself lesbian then. The Chanels just called Chanel #3 a lesbian, and Chanel #3 later explains to #5 that she isn't; she's come to realize that she's in love with love. While bisexuality doesn't come up by name, Chanel #3 states that it's not about gender. It's not an unfortunate implication if it's not mentioned, it's just that Chanel #3 realized what her sexuality was without having to believe she was bi.
So yeah. I think it's pretty clear that she didn't jump from sexuality to sexuality, but experimented with what she liked and discovered what really fit her. Her not suspecting she was bi is not a bad thing, even if Ryan Murphy has had problems with portraying bisexuality in the past - that part's irrelevant anyway.
And it shouldn't stay as a YMMV because it ignores canon events, and therefore doesn't hold water.
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Also, Unfortunate Implications requires citations.
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Beyond that, the views of characters are not the views of creators. All the Chanel's come from sheltered backgrounds, so her inability to use words like "bisexual" or "pansexual" only reflects her personal ignorance, not Murphy's.
Quietomega had a good idea:
"Maybe we should wait until the end of the season to do a clean-up like with Breaking Bad? Towards the end of that show's run, nearly every character was put under The Scrappy for being for or against Walt (including an infant) until the mods stepped in. It'll probably be easier to determine whether or not the characters fit under Base Breaker by then."
So how shall we get started? Obviously Chanel #3 (who clearly is one of the most popular characters, if not the most) should be an Ensemble Dark Horse. Judging from Reddit and a bit of Twitter, Jennifer should also be one. (Though she seems to be having a mixed reception on Tumblr last time I checked.)
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